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John Compton: I adore that.

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John Compton: Alright, I'll, give you… your usual powers, here. Let me just admit everybody who's sitting here waiting.

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John Compton: Lovey-doty, everybody.

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John Porter: Go to…

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Robert Gilmore: I'm just leaving my office in my car, so I'm gonna… just be audio.

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John Compton: Okay?

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John Compton: You're noted as being here.

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John Compton: Lots of people with no videos. What's going on?

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John Compton: Oh, I see, everybody's got their video off.

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Jean Moyer: I'm here.

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John Compton: You're here.

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Jean Moyer: Yes.

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John Compton: There, now you're here.

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Jean Moyer: I am. I had to go get the dogs in the house.

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John Compton: And we know Mary is walking hers.

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John Compton: Alright, well…

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Peter Nagrod: His… who's Chris?

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John Compton: It's probably still working on the hall.

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Jean Moyer: Passed their test this morning.

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Peter Nagrod: Yeah, that's good news.

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Jean Moyer: I heard.

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John Compton: Yeah, you've stolen his thunder.

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Jean Moyer: Sorry.

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Peter Nagrod: Mmm.

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John Compton: That was the first test.

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Jean Moyer: Yes, they have to finish…

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John Compton: Oh, there he is. Okay, good.

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Jean Moyer: Put the ceiling back together.

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John Compton: There he is, okay.

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Peter Nagrod: Chris is in the jungle.

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John Compton: Yeah.

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Kriss Grisham: I'm not sure how I ended up with this background.

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Peter Nagrod: Bamboo.

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Kriss Grisham: Maybe.

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Kriss Grisham: Need to figure out how to get rid of it, huh?

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Peter Nagrod: Don't we all?

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Peter Nagrod: I'm hoping that when we get our new mayor.

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Peter Nagrod: We'll get the meeting starting on time.

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John Compton: People are still coming in.

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Peter Nagrod: I'm just giving you…

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John Compton: 7.35, you know that.

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Peter Nagrod: You wouldn't feel comfortable if I wasn't giving you a hard time.

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Jean Moyer: Peter, I'll give you a hard time, you missed our 6.30 meeting.

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Peter Nagrod: I, you know, I have no record of that meeting.

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Jean Moyer: I sent an email.

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Peter Nagrod: Yeah, he said it at, like, 629?

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Jean Moyer: No, I sent it last night.

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Peter Nagrod: How?

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John Compton: All right, let's see, we've got, Rob on the phone, and everybody else.

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John Compton: That is in 1, 2, 3… Or, Mary isn't.

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John Compton: on yet.

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John Compton: Well, that's okay, she won't miss a whole lot, so why don't we call the.

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Peter Nagrod: Okay.

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John Compton: the April 13th Town Council meeting To order, welcome everybody.

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John Compton: I think we have a pretty full agenda, so… We'll try and… Hopefully, hopefully.

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John Compton: Shortcut a few of these items.

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John Compton: Yeah, I may be going on, on mute frequently.

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John Compton: Suppering from a… Cough, which is exacerbated by talking.

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John Compton: Peter will be happy to hear, so I'll… I'll try and…

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John Compton: Spare everyone any excessive coughing noises.

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Peter Nagrod: John, John, that is not a cough.

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Kathy Lehman: No, that's a bark.

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Peter Nagrod: Yeah, it's a… it's a… it's, it's a bar.

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John Compton: See? Here we go.

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Peter Nagrod: Not, yeah.

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Peter Nagrod: That's muted, too.

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Peter Nagrod: Okay.

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John Compton: Still no Mary? No.

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Kathy Lehman: I'm texting her.

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John Compton: Okay.

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John Compton: No, she went to Walker.

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Peter Nagrod: She's on, she's on, she's on.

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John Compton: Okay, now she's here.

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John Compton: Okay.

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Mary W: Sorry about that.

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John Compton: Let's call the meeting to order. The first item of business, as always, mostly, is to,

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John Compton: Approve the agenda, which… It should be on your screen now.

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Mary W: What's a friend.

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John Compton: we… So I need a motion to approve this agenda.

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Peter Nagrod: I'll make the motion to approve the agenda.

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John Compton: Thank you.

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Peter Nagrod: That's Peter Negrove.

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Mary W: This is Mary, I'll second it.

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John Compton: All right.

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John Compton: Okay, so any, comments, or suggestions about the agenda?

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Jean Moyer: I have one 5B, it should be the fiscal 27 budget.

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John Compton: Absolutely should be. Now it is.

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John Compton: I don't know why my spell check doesn't catch stuff like that, but… Yeah.

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John Compton: Anything else?

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John Compton: Okay, then let's move to a vote. All in favor of approving the agenda, as shown.

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John Compton: Rob…

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Robert Gilmore: S…

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John Compton: Okay, unanimous.

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John Compton: Great. So, now all we need to do is move on to approval of minutes.

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John Compton: The March 9th minutes were distributed today. Sorry, there's my cough.

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John Compton: All right, I hope, I hope the counselors had a chance to read these minutes.

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John Compton: I'm not showing them unless there's some comment on the minutes. I need a motion to, approve the minutes.

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Peter Nagrod: Motion to approve the minutes.

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John Compton: Thank you.

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John Porter: Is John all seconded?

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John Compton: Okay, John Porter seconds. All right, were there any, any corrections and comments, on the minutes?

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John Compton: Wow. So these minutes are the first ones.

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John Compton: You… well, you will recall that we had agreed, possibly a year ago, maybe less than a year ago.

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John Compton: That any, any public appearance submitted Made, with… with written…

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John Compton: Additional comments submitted would be made part of the minutes for that meeting.

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John Compton: They… The letters are also available on the website when they're put on the website.

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John Compton: So this is the first minutes that have… has a link To those, several

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John Compton: Written testimony, So…

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John Compton: Hopefully that's gonna work. It's a little tricky, but the way it's set up now, but this one does have a link to the two written minutes.

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John Compton: All right, hearing no comments, all in favor, approval minutes.

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John Compton: Any opposed?

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John Compton: Thank you. Minutes are approved.

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John Compton: And it's written, Okay, this brings us to public appearances.

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John Compton: Since most of the public isn't appearing anywhere,

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John Compton: If there's anyone who wishes to make a public appearance, this is your moment.

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John Compton: I don't see anything, nobody's appeared.

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John Compton: So, that closes the public appearances.

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John Compton: And so we'll move on to the Treasurer's Report.

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John Compton: This would be the March…

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John Compton: Treasurer's Report, which I will show Jean.

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Jean Moyer: There hasn't been a lot of changes since last month.

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Jean Moyer: We did get… Two more invoices for snow removal.

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Jean Moyer: back in early March, so…

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Jean Moyer: That has put us well over budget, at, looking at it…

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Jean Moyer: Yes, so we had a $5,000 budget, we're almost at $8,000 in total. It was a bad, snowy year.

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Jean Moyer: We have increased next year's budget for that. We can debate whether it's been increased enough.

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Jean Moyer: Cross our fingers we don't get another repeat.

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Jean Moyer: Also, due to the cold weather,

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Jean Moyer: The electric bills in the hall.

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Jean Moyer: are higher than I would have expected for

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Jean Moyer: This time of the budget year, hopefully, well.

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Jean Moyer: Presumably, in the coming months, electric bills will go down, in the fall, because we're not heating it, and the temperatures are rising, so…

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Jean Moyer: Hopefully that will start to level off, but, gas and electricity are high. I reported last month the water bill that, was down at the garage was unusually high because we had a

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Jean Moyer: bad flapper, which Steve was kind enough to determine that was the issue and repair for us.

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Jean Moyer: Other than that, I… and in the interest of time, I don't have any other comments than my usual notes that you all can

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Jean Moyer: Look at, but happy to answer any questions.

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John Compton: Right.

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Jean Moyer: Anybody might have.

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Kriss Grisham: Can I make a quick comment?

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Jean Moyer: Yes.

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Kriss Grisham: The electric bill is probably high because we took the insulation out from,

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Kriss Grisham: The lower hall, and the heat was still on.

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Jean Moyer: Yeah.

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Jean Moyer: And we see the value of insulation.

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John Compton: Anybody else?

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Peter Nagrod: No.

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John Porter: Nope.

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John Compton: Okay, there's another,

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John Compton: Do you want to comment on the remaining timeline for the fiscal 27 budget, Gene?

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Jean Moyer: So,

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Jean Moyer: We, as we said last month at the budget workshop, there were a couple numbers we were still waiting on that we've gotten receipt of and, done based on

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Jean Moyer: conversations John had with some committee people, we've made a few tweaks to the budget that I believe we're sharing tonight, right, John?

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John Compton: So, no, I meant.

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Jean Moyer: And we have to.

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John Compton: Jane? I mean the timeline.

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Jean Moyer: Oh, the timeline, the timeline is that we have to pass an ordinance for the budget tonight.

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Jean Moyer: It's a little tricky because we made changes, which John sent out, and so I have… I will busily, update the ordinance with the new numbers if we are all happy with them, and then we introduce that ordinance tonight.

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Jean Moyer: And then for the town meeting, which would be the next stopping place for the budget.

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Jean Moyer: We have to post, we, we are required to…

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Jean Moyer: post the budget two weeks ahead of the meeting, and so we'll make sure that happens. And at the town meeting, we always make, if any… it's hybrid, I presume?

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John Compton: Yes?

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Jean Moyer: So, you know, we generally have had written, copy. If anybody wants to come by and take a look in writing, they will have received it by probably town alert.

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Jean Moyer: And it's at the May meeting that, the town will vote on the budget, which includes the new rates.

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Jean Moyer: For, you know, revenues, and…

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Jean Moyer: I have to communicate those rates ASAP to the state and county.

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Jean Moyer: Because they have, time restraint, limitations for getting the proper… personal property tax rates, the new ones, on the July 7, 1st.

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Jean Moyer: Property tax bills, and so they have… they need lead time to get that stuff, so as soon as we get those approved at the town meeting, those will be communicated to the state and county.

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Jean Moyer: So that's really it, John, isn't it? Did I leave something out?

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Jean Moyer: Does not appear so. So, that is, the next steps.

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Jean Moyer: You're muted.

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John Compton: to you guys.

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John Compton: Right, thank you, Jean. I need a motion to accept the Treasurer's report.

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John Porter: This is John. I'll move to accept the Treasurer's report.

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Mary W: Smeri, I'll second it.

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John Compton: Okay, thank you. All in favor?

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John Compton: Rob?

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Robert Gilmore: Rob. Rob says aye.

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Peter Nagrod: answers all.

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John Compton: Alright, great.

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Kathy Lehman: Everybody?

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Kathy Lehman: That was 6-0?

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John Compton: Yes.

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Kathy Lehman: Thank you.

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John Compton: Okay, that gives, brings us to, my report, the… My, my, my…

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John Compton: only keto on the agenda is to Ernie Kawasaki, who successfully,

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John Compton: Supported, the town's nomination as a Tree City with the Arbor Day Foundation, and we have been named a 2025 Tree City.

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John Compton: Again, we haven't done this every year. We can… could almost certainly get it every year, but…

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John Compton: It, it does represent a, you can read it, it's in the materials, what the… what the harbor…

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John Compton: Foundation, Day Foundation says about this, recognition.

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John Compton: It shows a commitment, a high level of commitment to trees, as forests and throughout your, your city. So, we…

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John Compton: Are, the town within a forest, and it's, certainly should be emblematic that we… we have this, recognition.

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John Compton: So thanks to Ernie, who put this year's, application together. John?

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Barbara: Could I add some more kudos to the volunteers who came out to clean up the lake on Saturday? There were, like, 30 people, it was a really big crowd, and many hands make light work, so…

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John Compton: That was quite a… quite a…

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John Compton: A bunch of volunteers on this effort.

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Peter Nagrod: Mmm.

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John Compton: and Peggy Bohr sent out a nice photo, group photo.

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John Compton: They all dived into the lake after that, I understand.

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Peter Nagrod: Yeah, right.

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John Compton: Right.

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John Compton: You're gonna hear a little bit more, well, well, that's it for the kudos. Thank you, Barbara, for adding that.

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John Compton: The next item is, the 26th town election.

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John Compton: Which, just reminding everyone, it will be in person on Saturday, May 9th, between 10 and 1 p.m.

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John Compton: The nominations closed today.

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John Compton: I don't know if any new ones were added.

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John Compton: The known nominees were myself for mayor, Peter… for, Town Council.

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John Compton: and Nick Patron for Town Count.

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John Compton: Also, respecting the election, absentee ballot applications will be accepted from now. I think now?

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John Compton: Good evening.

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John Compton: The cough in silence. Will be accepted from now through May 2nd.

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John Compton: the Friday, May 2nd.

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John Compton: What, why do I say May 2nd?

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John Compton: That event is, now you can get your absentee, ballot,

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John Compton: And we'll post reminders on how to do that on the website. And it will be in the bulletin, on the May bulletin.

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John Compton: The town meeting follows the election.

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John Compton: It will be in person, and hybrid… it'll be an in-person, and I should have said hybrid.

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John Compton: On Saturday at 2 o'clock, starting at 2 o'clock, May 9.

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John Compton: Where, as Jean mentioned, The main official business

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John Compton: Specified that our town meeting is to vote on, approve the fiscal 2027 tax rates, and adopt the annual budget.

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John Compton: Next item is updates to the town website. So, we no longer have a, a, integrated, webmaster, bulletin, etc. individual. Christine has stepped down.

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John Compton: Respecting updates to the town website, we've,

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John Compton: Our, our, web developer contractor has agreed to perform those updates.

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John Compton: For us, and he, in discussions with him, we're gonna start by doing those updates once a week.

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John Compton: It could be more frequent, depending on what needs to be updated.

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John Compton: But as of now, I'm the conduit to, Marcus. His name is Marcus Trapp.

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John Compton: So I should receive, you should transmit copy-ready content to me.

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John Compton: If it amounts to replacing something, you just… just be sure you describe very in detail.

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John Compton: What is to be edited.

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John Compton: What existing text is to be edited, and what new

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John Compton: posting you are requesting, whether it's a document, new text.

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John Compton: A new article, a new page, whatever it is.

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John Compton: basically the same thing you would have done with Christine, except send it to me.

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John Compton: I won't be doing it, I will simply be passing it along to Marcus to do it.

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Peter Nagrod: Is Tom gonna still be putting photos?

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Peter Nagrod: Because that's really… that's what the banner, those are really nice.

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Peter Nagrod: You know?

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John Compton: Oh, you mean the photos that are.

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Peter Nagrod: Yeah, that go across the top of the grove.

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John Compton: Nothing about the photos, yeah.

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Peter Nagrod: We should check and see, because that's really attractive.

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John Compton: Right.

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John Compton: Well, actually, you know, we could accept anybody's photos who… Right. …of the town.

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Peter Nagrod: Right.

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John Compton: Yeah.

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Peter Nagrod: Nobody has to manage that process.

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John Compton: Right. Well, you know, we can ask for a volunteer. As I say, I'm gonna… I'm gonna be the conduit for the web content.

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John Compton: I absolutely…

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John Compton: don't have to be the one to do it. Anybody else can do it, who will volunteer to do it. It's not that challenging, but…

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John Compton: It's, has to be done by someone.

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John Compton: Alrighty,

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John Compton: Let's see, speaking of Arbor Day, the… the Woods Committee is having a West Woods cleanup

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John Compton: on Arbor Day, April 25th, from 9 to 11. It's just 2 hours.

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John Compton: Volunteers are,

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John Compton: requested to, you know, many hands make short work. The reason it is ending at 11 is that the, the remembrance of Ann Briggs is at the hall at 11.

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John Compton: And it's a week from this Saturday. Hopefully…

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John Compton: the hall will be ready for… for that event. We'll hear about that in a moment.

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John Compton: Lastly, this is a reminder…

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John Compton: emphatic announcement that, another Diversity, equity, Inclusion, belonging workshop

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John Compton: which will be led by Leadership Montgomery, has been scheduled for May 30th.

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John Compton: From 9 to 12.30 in McCatherine Hall, it's a Saturday, I think.

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John Compton: Food will be served, all are welcome, but you need to contact Barbara Raimondo.

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John Compton: Patty Klein, myself, Just about anybody to indicate that you, would like to attend that.

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Barbara: really, Paula would be… is the point person.

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John Compton: All right.

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Barbara: On the RSVP.

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John Compton: And the information about what that session will constitute, we'll get that out shortly, possibly in a Grove update.

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John Compton: But in any event, in the next bulletin, May 1st bulletin.

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John Compton: Just a… just to further plug that event.

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John Compton: You, you hopefully will recall that among the next steps.

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John Compton: From last year's, last year's session.

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John Compton: Was to…

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John Compton: examine the town's comprehensive plan from the point of view of diversity, inclusion, etc, and see whether it is sufficiently, sufficiently represents

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John Compton: what the town, town's aspirations with respect to DEIB

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John Compton: So, we're trying to move along and keep developing the town's,

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John Compton: And that's all I have to report, unless someone has a question.

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John Compton: All right. If not, then we'll move on to administrative matters. I wish there's a long list here.

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John Compton: First off, we'll ask Chris Grisham to give us the status of the sprinkler system project.

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Kriss Grisham: Okay, thank you, John. So, hopefully it won't be 10 minutes. Today we successfully passed

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Kriss Grisham: the, hydro test, where they, pumped it up, to 200 psi, and held it for 2 hours.

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Kriss Grisham: But in doing so, the inspector also said that in order for us to be prepared for the final inspection, we need to restore the hall.

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Kriss Grisham: Pretty much all the ceilings.

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Kriss Grisham: need to be restored. And what we were hoping for was, if…

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Kriss Grisham: If you remember, McCatherine Hall has that wooden ceiling and, I think 8 sides. We had to remove about 1 third of the ceiling, from the window up.

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Kriss Grisham: in order to access the pipes. We were hoping that they would allow us to… to leave that ceiling, if need be, if we ran out of time, and still be able to

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Kriss Grisham: go through a final inspection for occupancy. The inspector today said, no, final means final. So, we have to put everything back. And we started doing that today.

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Kriss Grisham: And we'll be working

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Kriss Grisham: All through this week, and probably over the weekend, working very hard to try to get everything back together in time for, next week's events… weekend's events.

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Kriss Grisham: We still have, and I guess the other couple notes is, some piping needs to be installed, from our new nitrogen system panel into our,

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Kriss Grisham: sprinkler system. They're coming out again tomorrow to try to finish that up. Our alarm panel has been wired up, as of this afternoon. So there really isn't that much left to do, except to pass

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Kriss Grisham: The sprinkler trip test inspection, and then, the final inspection. And we're hoping that that would take place over a two-day period, back-to-back.

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Kriss Grisham: That's all I have. Any questions?

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John Compton: Yeah.

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Kriss Grisham: Less than 5 minutes?

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John Compton: At this point, and this is going to happen repeatedly for the next month,

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John Compton: Chris, you know, ran for Town Council, and he agreed to be the McCatherine Hull, you know, take on McCatherine Hull responsibility.

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John Compton: you know, a few, a few projects to, you know, fix up the windows, or paint the hall, or whatever. And he got stuck with this sprinkler pro- repair project, which has proven to be a really time-consuming effort.

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John Compton: In order to complete it within the time frame that we, that we agreed we would aim for. So he's been spending, you know.

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John Compton: he's really been responsible for, you know, ensuring that the project is moving along, talking to the contractor, working with Steve Wertz and Dane.

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John Compton: Who, are doing the work to… in the hall, to…

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John Compton: Make possible access to the sprinkler system to help out with any of the issues.

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John Compton: to…

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John Compton: Take down the ceiling, and also to make some updates to the… to the hall, which we, we believe were…

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John Compton: Which became possible, and it seemed reasonable to do in the process of doing these other things. So these guys have been doing a lot of work.

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John Compton: On a pretty much daily basis, and while everybody else stays out of the hall, they've been in there

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John Compton: Coordinating. So, press, you know, it's a fantastic job.

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John Compton: Everybody's doing a good job. If we make our deadline, we know who, we owe.

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John Compton: A debt to over that.

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Peter Nagrod: And what if we don't make the deadline?

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John Compton: Well, then we'll never speak to them again.

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Kriss Grisham: There have been, contingencies. We've been talking to, the first, event folks, for that.

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Kriss Grisham: Weekend of the… what, the 25th and 26th?

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Kriss Grisham: And so there are contingencies in place.

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John Compton: Yeah, I don't… is your house big enough, Chris?

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Kriss Grisham: I thought it was your back porch!

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John Compton: Oh, my back porch.

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Kriss Grisham: Yes.

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John Compton: Thank you.

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John Compton: Alrighty, so, the,

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John Compton: Annual town election and the town meeting is on May 9th, as you know. We went through the schedule in my announcements.

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John Compton: I, I'm… this is here.

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John Compton: to let the Council know that the Council,

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John Compton: He does an annual report in each of their responsibility areas, for the town meeting, and you can…

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John Compton: Start working on those right after, you know, 11, when we finish this meeting.

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John Compton: And submit them so they'll be available to residents to, read, and then we have a question and answer period as part of the town meeting on any aspect of your reports.

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John Compton: Next item is, the May Town Council meeting.

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John Compton: So… the annual town council meeting, well.

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John Compton: So, for a number of reasons. We, hold a town council meeting in May after the annual town meeting.

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John Compton: It's called the Organizational Meeting, but it's also, when the County Council passes the budget and tax

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John Compton: rate ordinance, which we're required to do. It's a completely a rubber stamp, because our charter specifies that the town meeting approves the tax rate and the budget.

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John Compton: But the state requires us to do this by an ordinance, which only the town council can do, so…

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John Compton: The time count.

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John Compton: will do it, on that day. So, my proposal is that it'd be on Monday, May 18th.

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John Compton: That is the Monday… second Monday following the town meeting, so about 10 days from there. Does, how does… are there any serious objections to that date?

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John Compton: Okay, good. Then we'll, then we'll put that council meeting onto our schedule, advertise it. It's also a regular council meeting.

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John Compton: Sort of a truncated council meeting.

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John Compton: In which business that, you know, either we either will have time for, or…

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John Compton: Things that may be useful to get in… get done before

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John Compton: The end of the fiscal year can get, be moved along, so…

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John Compton: It won't just be the organizational or, and, and passing that one pro forma ordinance.

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John Compton: All right, next item is the Town Administrator, which is the…

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John Compton: the placement for Kathy, when she retires.

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John Compton: And, I have this as a status report.

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John Compton: So, we have… we've posted the job description and the…

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John Compton: In a variety of places, and…

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John Compton: As we knew what happened.

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John Compton: And we've also advertised it, obviously, in the bulletin and whatever, and we've gotten a reasonable number of

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John Compton: Applicants, of which a very few appear to

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John Compton: And, we're going to, We, we decided to…

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John Compton: Reach out to the applicants who live in town, To… for a,

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John Compton: touch base with them, and at least one other, applicant who did come in through our, posting process. But,

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John Compton: At the same time, we're pursuing a few other places to post the job.

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John Compton: Including the Maryland Association of Counties, and, the…

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John Compton: There was another one, which I'm currently.

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Jean Moyer: It's called Live Work Maryland.

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John Compton: Yeah, that's work.

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Barbara: And the Maryland City Managers Association.

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John Compton: Yeah.

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John Compton: and, and see what happens. I can summarize the major… a very large number of the applicants.

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John Compton: came via… the… the online publication patch, which I hope some of you are familiar with.

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John Compton: They have a pretty decent, job site.

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John Compton: But the majority of those, applicants

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John Compton: Sadly, are, you know, come from government backgrounds, government…

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John Compton: job background. So, no doubt, extremely qualified individuals.

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John Compton: For, considering the jobs they've held.

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John Compton: But, difficult to reconcile with our needs.

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John Compton: from a… from a resume.

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John Compton: Okay, so that's where we are, and we're still,

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John Compton: you know, hopeful that we'll have the right person step through the door. They may already have. We're going to talk to about 5 individuals.

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John Compton: In the next step, from the applicants we have at this time.

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Robert Gilmore: John, when… when… when you… this is Rob. When you say that it's… the, the…

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Robert Gilmore: I guess backgrounds of the applicants, for the most part, is difficult to reconcile with

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Robert Gilmore: our requirements. What specifically do you mean by that?

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Robert Gilmore: Other than, like, they didn't live in town, I'm not sure that…

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Jean Moyer: Yep.

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Robert Gilmore: That's, like, a… something we'd like, but not really a requirement.

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John Compton: Yeah, no, they're experience. So, you know, we've… for example, we've got a large number of program managers.

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John Compton: You know, or, or, you know, contact representatives, you know, individuals.

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John Compton: Who, you know, have been in various positions, various…

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John Compton: various things. Maybe Gene can be a little bit more…

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Jean Moyer: There, there, we did, as you might imagine, there are a number of federal employees.

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Jean Moyer: Where the experience they had within the federal government is not…

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Jean Moyer: does not appear to be highly applicable to the work we need. It would be a severe step down for some of them. We had applicants who live in West Virginia, Pennsylvania, Virginia,

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Jean Moyer: Or people who, you know, might have worked in a warehousing situation, not so much

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Jean Moyer: a, administrative office setting.

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Jean Moyer: that's the best I can contribute.

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Peter Nagrod: So, I would add to that, Rob, that

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Peter Nagrod: I… when John… yeah, it was a little misleading when John said, like, the government, per se, because that… I don't think that's…

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Peter Nagrod: That's exactly what he probably wanted to say. Most of the applicants were lower level. They were admin-type people. A lot of them didn't even have college educations.

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Peter Nagrod: And it's possible that when they saw administrator, they were thinking of admin, I don't know. But, they didn't have the skills that we were looking for. You know, not just government, but there were a lot of government people.

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Peter Nagrod: But there's nothing wrong with government people. You know, a government person could do the job, obviously, but a lot of government people do kind of, like, one thing, they're not… this job calls for a lot of different skills.

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Peter Nagrod: And we have, as John said, we found just, out of all those people, we found a couple that we think are pretty good, and we have a pretty good sense of what we're looking for.

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John Compton: Any other questions? Thank you guys for helping me out on that.

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John Compton: You're right, I should have said federal. There was a lot of…

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Peter Nagrod: Yeah, yeah.

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John Compton: There were a lot of people, clearly, who had suffered from the federal layoff.

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Peter Nagrod: And since there's a lot of government people on this call…

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Peter Nagrod: All our ex-government people, it's, it's, we don't, we don't hate you.

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Robert Gilmore: Well, and that, John, that point that I suspected that we have a lot of applicants of people who've gotten canned by the Trump administration, who might be actually, like, overqualified, but it sounds like sort of more the opposite, that there are a lot of people who are underqualified.

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John Compton: Both, both, we, we definitely, there were definitely several that were clearly overqualified.

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John Compton: as Jane indicated, would be a step down for them.

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John Compton: Now, you know, Rob…

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John Compton: I'll just give you a real, kind of my description. We're getting just a lot of resumes. A very few individuals wrote cover letters.

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John Compton: Connecting their interest in the job

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John Compton: With the require… with the… with the duties of the job.

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John Compton: and their experience.

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John Compton: You know, and which shows… when I was taught how to Search for a job.

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John Compton: That was heavily emphasized.

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John Compton: Tailor your comments to the job.

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John Compton: not just send your resume. So, you know, it's a tough.

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Robert Gilmore: Yeah.

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John Compton: thing to filter this.

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Robert Gilmore: These days of chat GBT, if you can't send a, cover letter in… Well, that's true. There's really no excuse.

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John Compton: Yeah.

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John Compton: Okay, moving on to the next item is the Comprehensive Roadwork 2026 RFP, which you didn't see in your

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John Compton: materials, and .

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Robert Gilmore: Mia Maxima Calva.

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John Compton: Well, no, it's not only that, Rob, because in thinking about it.

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John Compton: So, Peter, Rob, and I made a comprehensive examination.

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John Compton: the roads in Washington Grove for this comprehensive roadwork RFP.

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John Compton: And, remarkably, there are very few road segments in town.

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John Compton: that, are in dire need of repaving.

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John Compton: There are… A few segments that would benefit from repaving?

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John Compton: I would say there are no segments that couldn't survive another year without repaving.

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John Compton: Nobody came forward to point their finger at the road in front of their house, and how they're…

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John Compton: You know, or anything like that. So, you know, we are…

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John Compton: the consequences of that is… is how do we proceed? Do we just spend the money… now, let me back up. The money in the road fund, so we get money for road, for… for maintaining our roads from the state, or state via the county.

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John Compton: And, that is counted for separately, in our, finances.

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John Compton: The amount we get annually can be carried over from one year to the next. It's not use it or lose it.

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John Compton: And so the idea of just

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John Compton: Paving, because we need to use the money, it doesn't apply here.

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John Compton: By the same token, doing a small project where we did just a few segments that, you know.

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John Compton: We would be proactive about.

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John Compton: won't, we've learned, won't attract a, an interested vendor, an interested contractor. They need to, you know, they need to mobilize to do this, and they come out, and it's got to be worth their while. So, what we did the last two times we've had this done.

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John Compton: Is we, we consolidated 2 years' worth of budgeting and spent $75,000 or $80,000.

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John Compton: to do, a variety of segments around town. We'd be… we are… we can't do that this year without

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John Compton: Paving areas that really aren't

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John Compton: in imminent need of, improvement. So, my proposal is, let's cut this to the quick.

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John Compton: My proposal is to not spend this year's road money this year.

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John Compton: To plan to spend

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John Compton: Part of that with, to move the budgeting forward, increase what we would be putting into the road budget for next year from $50,000 to, say, $75,000?

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John Compton: And, look to, use that money for,

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John Compton: for the few segments that will clearly benefit. Plus, the stormwater management project is digging up 3 intersections.

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John Compton: And we are not repaving those intersections as part of that project, because that expense would… would…

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John Compton: I think we decided would be a poor use of our stormwater management funds. The roads will be patched, the new pipes going across the intersection. The road will be patched and should be perfectly smooth, but those intersections may benefit from being repaved.

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John Compton: An example is Acorn at Chestnut Road. So, that money, you know, by the time we come out and finish the stormwater management project, and we get a little bit of use out of it, we'll know better whether we shouldn't be repaving those intersections. So, if we add those to the

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John Compton: few projects that might be… I mentioned earlier, that… Could produce a sufficient work… scope of work.

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John Compton: for an RFP. So we'll look to look at that in the fall, and it may be go into the spring.

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John Compton: But, that's my, my, my recommendation.

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John Compton: I don't know what… what Rob and Peter think. They saw the same roads I did.

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Robert Gilmore: Yeah, no, this is Rob. I definitely agree, and had I…

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Robert Gilmore: not been too busy with work, I would have said a note to this effect in writing to the Council, but I agree with that. I think…

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Robert Gilmore: Yeah, Peter can weigh in, of course, but there were a few isolated spots, but it just doesn't seem like there's…

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Robert Gilmore: work that's worth us putting together an RFP, let alone

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Robert Gilmore: Probably just not getting any responses, given the…

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Robert Gilmore: the, kind of the small size of the work. So, yeah, rolling this over to next year, I mean, given the conditions of the roads, like.

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Robert Gilmore: I'm not sure that they're gonna need it next year, but we'll see what happens.

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Peter Nagrod: So, I totally agree with you, except the Locust Lane. You know, when I think about… you know, we're thinking about cars going over there.

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Peter Nagrod: That's… that's the only place where people… a lot of people walk on there, especially at night. That is an unbelievable tripping hazard. And it's a liability, and it should be dealt with. And that could be dealt with, you know, with other funds, you know, whatever, and we could talk about it.

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Robert Gilmore: Oh, is that the tree root heave?

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Peter Nagrod: Yeah, that… think about it, people walking there at night, or even during the day, it's a liability. It's crazy to, not deal with that.

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John Compton: We can repair that without an RFP.

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Peter Nagrod: Exactly, exactly, yeah, yeah. And so I think that this is a fantastic idea, because I agree. I think the roads, the roads are fine.

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John Compton: Yeah.

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Peter Nagrod: Yeah, it's a great, great solution. And then we don't have to do any oil work either, Rob.

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John Compton: Always the, you know, the bright side.

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Peter Nagrod: Yeah.

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Robert Gilmore: Right.

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Robert Gilmore: My final achievement as, during my stint as town councilor, not doing an RFP for the roads.

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Peter Nagrod: Thank you.

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John Compton: Okay, so, so much for the Comprehensive Roadwork RFP.

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John Compton: The next item is a more substantial one, and that is, the Playground Committee has been hard at work

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John Compton: com… In a number of ways, deciding how to proceed with their charge to

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John Compton: To create, the renovated playground. So we have a presentation from Oscar.

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John Compton: frame us tonight, as chair, to, inform the council, and, I think have, proposal, they, they, they have, have.

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John Compton: A proposal or two to make to the councilor.

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John Compton: Right?

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Oscar Ramos: Yes, yeah, so the Playground Committee's been trying to figure out how to proceed, since, since last year, so, you know.

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Oscar Ramos: allocated, $30,000 for capital purchases, in the current fiscal budget, and then we found out that we're… it's not official yet, but we're supposed to receive a grant from the state of Maryland for $250,000, and so we've been trying to figure out, well, where do we… how do we proceed, at this point? We're nearing the end of the

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Oscar Ramos: of the,

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Oscar Ramos: of the fiscal year. And so, we had, we had, deferred action on… on our… when we, when we accepted the comprehensive plan, the plan envisioned various zones. And when we didn't know that we were going to receive this grant, we thought about Zone 1 being, the space where we would have, a large playset for, for older kids, ages 5 to 12.

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Oscar Ramos: Once we found out we were, gonna receive this grant, we put that off just to make sure that we would get the money. And so we shifted our attention to a train set, to have something that is smaller, more affordable.

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Oscar Ramos: achievable in this fiscal year for, to, to show the town that we've been making progress after about a year and a half of this kind of work, and deliver something. So…

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Oscar Ramos: In that, Mayor Compton also suggested that we use the grant for repaving the basketball court, and then shift some of the spending into the next fiscal year to have all of the funds for the playground be reimbursable. And so… and then there was a question about, having us produce a site plan with measurements and everything

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Oscar Ramos: before we proceed with any of these purchases. So, the playground committee had a supplemental meeting last week, and before the mayor's request, the, the goal for that

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Oscar Ramos: meeting was going to be to decide on the train set, and, you know, what's the, what's the model, what's the design for the train set? We'd been considering a 6-car set, or an 8-car, wood versus poly lumber, and the pros and cons of all the different, materials. And at the same time, we've been… we've had a few balls up in the air, so we were also, we were able to schedule a meeting with a playground designer, because we've been taken seriously

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Oscar Ramos: This idea that we should have, some kind of site plan.

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Oscar Ramos: And so it all kind of came together this week, in terms of what, the playground committee would like to do, and then an update with information from, a playground designer. So, the playground committee is looking for a more conservative,

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Oscar Ramos: purchase price for a train set. We're looking for wood, which is, more affordable than poly lumber. We're actually going to pursue, a new set of estimates from various providers. I've got a whole spreadsheet that I'm not going to show tonight. But we'd like to have a train set that has 6 cars, so let, you know, fewer than 8, with the tracks themselves being made of poly lumber, so that, being that that's the part of the train set that sits on the ground and is more in contact with

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Oscar Ramos: water that would minimize the maintenance costs. And then the actual set itself would be made out of wood. And so, Andy's begun, documenting the maintenance needs for the playground, and we really think that, given the success of,

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Oscar Ramos: of the cleanup meeting that we had in March, where we were, you know, shoveling all the engineered wood fiber, we could carry out yearly maintenance and sanding, restaining a wooden train set. So we're gathering, estimates for a six-car set, and so, you know, I think it should be in the…

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Oscar Ramos: $10,000, $11,000 range when we get to that point.

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Oscar Ramos: you know, we had $30,000 allocated for this year, and we should be far, far below those estimates, given that most of the train set would be made out of wood, except for the tracks themselves. So, the playground committee would like to request that we use that money to purchase the train set, you know, since we have money allocated for this year. And, on the question of

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Oscar Ramos: a site plan, we figure since, with the mayor's suggestion that we, also include, the basketball repaving in the grant, we're saving a lot of money for the town, you know, through this grant, and also shifting most of the spending into next fiscal year. The town really isn't on the hook for very much of,

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Oscar Ramos: of town funds for this playground update, and so, given the request for a site plan, we'd like to ask the Town Council to approve the beginning of an RFP process to collect bids for professionals to come in and do that work.

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Oscar Ramos: So, this past, Thursday, last week on Thursday.

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Oscar Ramos: We met with, two representatives from a playground firm that designed Constitution Gardens in Old Town Gaithersburg. If you've ever been to Old Town Gaithersburg, kind of one street paralleling away from the main road is this beautiful, natural-based,

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Oscar Ramos: garden, and so this firm in DC came out and they saw the playground, they loved the potential for this space, and we had a lot of questions for them in terms of what services they offer, to begin, considering where it's even feasible to have

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Oscar Ramos: professionals come in and do this work. And, the represent… I'm taking a look at my notes, the… the firm is called Natural Resources Designs, and like I said, they designed Constitutional Garden, in… in Gaithersburg.

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Oscar Ramos: Budget-wise, more or less 10%.

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Oscar Ramos: of the overall budget is what they charge. So, $25,000 to do professional work, to me, seems like it's worth exploring. You know, they… this particular firm has an in-house civil engineer. They… they're experts in erosion control, soil control, ADA regulations. They work with installers and contractors. They hold meetings with communities.

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Oscar Ramos: With, you know, they could hold a series of meetings with the playground, committee, with town leaders. They can do a public presentation to the whole town, get feedback to revise their plans. They are well-versed in regulations that we just didn't know we didn't know.

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Oscar Ramos: For example, she was talking us through how,

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Oscar Ramos: In order to avoid a stormwater management design, there's a certain amount of the ground space that you can disturb before that regulation kicks in, and so they know how to work around all that.

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Oscar Ramos: And so, yeah, it seems like $25,000, if that can be reimbursed by the grant, that's great. And even if it's… part of it can't be reimbursed, I think it's worth exploring that, given that we're saving money with the basketball repayment and that sort of process. So, I don't really have a presentation for you, but more of an update in terms of the stance for the playground committee.

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Oscar Ramos: Which is that, a lot of people feel strongly that we'd like to move forward with something, tangible.

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Oscar Ramos: This year, and ask for the town to begin the RFE process to collect bids, given that the cost of having professionals do this work. And then you can ask all the questions about safety, about drainage, soil control, ADA compliance to people that really know what they're doing. It seems like it's a, it's a worthwhile investment.

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Peter Nagrod: What are you thinking about as far as…

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Peter Nagrod: an investment. Any ideas about what it might cost?

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Oscar Ramos: Oh, yeah, about 10% of the grant, so about $25,000.

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Peter Nagrod: Wow.

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John Compton: I have a question, Oscar. Did they say $25,000, or did they say 10% of the…

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John Compton: Descenters in the playground.

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Oscar Ramos: 10% of the overall grant. I checked in with her, said, so is that about $25,000 if our grant is 25… is $250,000? She says, yeah, that's about right. if we need a topographical survey, that could be another $18,000 to $25,000. So, more or less, that's what… sorry.

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Oscar Ramos: 18 to 2,500, not $1,000, sorry, $100.

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Oscar Ramos: And so, yeah, and if that can be,

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Oscar Ramos: reimbursable by the grand, you know, we can… we can fold that in. But if we… if ideas to push

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Oscar Ramos: We'd started this fiscal year with $30,000 of town funds, and so if we're pushing as much of this as possible into the grant itself, including the basketball court repavement, it seemed like to have professionals do this well.

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Oscar Ramos: Would be a better way of proceeding than having volunteers, given there's so many questions about drainage and safety and grading and all these… I mean, this is what they do.

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Barbara: So, Oscar, if I understand you correctly, you're asking for permission to pursue an RFP for a playground designer. Yes. Okay, I would like to move…

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Barbara: that the playground committee move forward with an RFP, with developing an RFP for a playground designer. That is my motion.

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Peter Nagrod: I'll second.

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Kathy Lehman: I could not hear that very well. Can you do it again?

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Barbara: I am moving that we approve the Playground Committee to move forward with pursuing

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Barbara: a playground designer for designing the playground. I don't think I said it quite the same way, but…

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Kathy Lehman: I probably won't write it the same way.

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Peter Nagrod: I second. Peter seconded at that.

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Barbara: So, I think that… the things that you point out, I mean.

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Barbara: $250,000 is a lot of money, and we want to make sure that it's well spent.

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Barbara: And as you point out, like, and we've seen in other instances.

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Barbara: the most well-intentioned volunteers don't know all of this stuff the way an expert does. So, you know, let's talk to these people and see what they bring us. We, you know, we don't have

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Barbara: Decide right now that we're doing it, but…

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Barbara: look at the bids and decide. I think that's a very wise move.

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John Porter: This is John, just make sure I clarify.

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John Porter: You're not going to buy this train set until after this plan… this consultation, and the design comes through with… from a playground designer, right?

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Oscar Ramos: What the playground committee is requesting is that we move forward on a train.

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John Porter: Why would you…

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Oscar Ramos: And also do the.

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John Porter: Why would you buy something before you have a definitive plan for what the playground's gonna look like?

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Oscar Ramos: Yeah,

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Oscar Ramos: I think, we could decide where to put it, and we could work with the designers, but those were, yeah, those were the boats that we took. There was a sense that people want to have something sooner.

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: Yeah, I think there's… there's… to speak to Oscar's point a little bit, is that…

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: We also, had a sense from…

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: the community parents and people on the committee that we wanted to try to get something in place for two reasons. One is to show that we do have momentum and we have movement, but also that, summer's coming up, the highest usage of the park, summer in the parks will be there as a camp.

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: And be utilizing that. And to have a new feature would be, really a nice statement.

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: And I think to John's point, he had, emailed some suggestions, this would be after the grant goes into effect on June 1st.

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: And before our fiscal year ends, so there's this little bit of wiggle room, to where we could be reimbursed.

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: For that piece.

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: within the state bond timeframe, which is the June… June 1st is when that bond would go into effect, so it would not be before that.

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: Moment in time.

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Kriss Grisham: So, I guess I'm still very confused, because it sounds like we're trying to get

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Kriss Grisham: somebody professionally, for 25K, or whatever it might be.

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Kriss Grisham: To come in to provide us

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Kriss Grisham: a huge amount of assistance in trying to develop, you know, the layout of the playground.

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Kriss Grisham: So, the playground…

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Kriss Grisham: planning designer, I guess. But yet, we want to go ahead and start buying equipment before we even know where, when, what.

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Kriss Grisham: It just… I think we're, you know, just because we have funds.

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Kriss Grisham: It seems like we're putting the cart before the horse.

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Kriss Grisham: You know, with the playground project, right, a real quick search online for me, about 15 minutes' worth. You know, things that you need to consider is,

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Kriss Grisham: You know, overall, playground project.

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Kriss Grisham: Removing existing equipment, surfacing requirements, you talked about drainage, you know, the new equipment costs, equipment, maintenance requirements.

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Kriss Grisham: All of that is a cost, you know, life cycle costs.

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Kriss Grisham: So, you know, I can understand trying to get a planner, professional person, to come in and give us some ideas, give us potential,

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Kriss Grisham: vision of where this playground might go. And the thing is, is you made a comprehensive plan, and…

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Kriss Grisham: It seems like… and it was really well done, you know, broken up into different zones, a lot of very key

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Kriss Grisham: Playground equipment were evaluated for its safety and functionality and for, age-appropriate, structures.

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Kriss Grisham: But yet, we're all of a sudden jumping in the, let's go ahead and buy this train, but then on top of that, let's go ahead and try to hire somebody to give us a better understanding of what we want to do with our plan.

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: Yeah, no, Chris, and you're right, and we don't want to jump the gun. I think that some of this was because of the timing of when we had our supplemental meeting just last week, and we've had a lot of progress on a lot of fronts, a lot of movement. So, the vote was held,

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: within our committee to… to vote for that train set, and at this… almost at the same time, we had a playground consultant, which,

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: you know, added to the facts, and, you know, Mayor Compton's suggestions. And so there's been a lot of moving parts. So I'll let Oscar speak to kind of where our thoughts are at the moment. Maybe we can get some… a little more clarity. And Laurel also has her hand up.

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Kriss Grisham: Well, you know, before we go there, I'm kind of confused, because, you know, Oscar had mentioned that we're saving money with the basketball court, and I'm kind of trying to figure out how that fits in, too, because, you know, originally, when we were writing

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Kriss Grisham: when we were adopting the playground plan and turning it into a town council document that we could endorse, one of the things that I had put in there was the basketball court, and that was pushed back pretty hard, and in fact, we took it out of the plan.

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Kriss Grisham: comprehensive plan. So, I'm… I'm very confused now on how the basketball court's now

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Kriss Grisham: part of this discussion. And… and how we're saving money. I don't understand. So…

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Oscar Ramos: I think.

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Kriss Grisham: I appreciate it.

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Oscar Ramos: I can speak to that. I mean, it's a request that John made to us. Yeah, when we were doing the comprehensive plan, we didn't know the state grant would come.

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Oscar Ramos: And so, you know, the council approved the plan, the basketball court wasn't part of that, and then we learned that we're receiving this grant. And so, there's been a lot of… so…

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Oscar Ramos: John, if you want to talk about that, it's really been your suggestion, too. Use the… the grant.

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John Compton: No.

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Oscar Ramos: We're the basketball court.

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John Compton: Yeah, I thought that the playground project,

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John Compton: was… the comprehensive plan was focused on revitalizing our playground area, and the basketball court was an existing facility, we certainly weren't going to remove it, and the maintenance of the basketball court

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John Compton: Seemed to be, separate from the playground… the new playground plans.

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John Compton: But, now that we have… state funds.

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John Compton: it was never a question of whether or not we were going to resurface or rejuvenate the,

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John Compton: the basketball court. It was only a question of when and, budgeting funds for it.

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John Compton: I… one of… among my… top, I think many of the councilmen… I'm sorry, just a minute.

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John Compton: I hope most of the council will agree, maybe most of the town, that since we have available this, you know, these funds from the state, that we really ought to spend those first.

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John Compton: Before we spend town funds, since we have access to them literally within a month or two.

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John Compton: That's not to say that the town won't.

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John Compton: put funds into the playground, that was our original intention. Without the grant, we were going to fund the playground

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John Compton: work, probably over a whole bunch of years. And so, when the playground funds were exhausted, we would be funding the remaining work. Well, we can… the principle is, don't spend the town funds until you exhaust your other funds, and the grants the other funds.

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John Compton: So, I… and I think it legitimately falls within the playground grant.

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John Compton: The intentions we, we, used in, requesting the grant.

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John Compton: So, that's basically what the story with the playground basketball court. Now, we do have funds. If we could get the basketball court resurfaced.

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John Compton: Before, the contract let.

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John Compton: before June 30th. It doesn't actually have… the work doesn't actually have to be done.

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John Compton: then we could use FY26 money. It's in the budget. There's already enough money for that in the budget.

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John Compton: And then we can request reimbursement.

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John Compton: From the grant. And then, if it turns out… and so that would leave… let's just say it was $30,000. That would leave $220,000, so then we would be spending that, and at some point, we would… we might have

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John Compton: Extra things to do on the playground, and at that point, we'd be, again, spending,

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John Compton: From the town's funds.

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John Compton: on it. So, that was the whole issue.

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John Compton: Gene, you're waving your hand.

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Peter Nagrod: Councilperson, I would like to… can I just… council first? We have priority.

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John Compton: Well, I think Jane is going to correct the budget to some.

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Peter Nagrod: Well, I don't care about the budget. I want to go back, though, to

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Peter Nagrod: We're digressing from the original conversation, which is what John brought up, and then Chris talked about, because I think the playground group, you know, really wants to have their win, and I totally understand that. I have a nephew who… a great nephew, who is dying to come to the Grove and play on the train.

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Peter Nagrod: But I think that… I think it's a really important factor. Learning about a $25,000 or whatever consultant, is exciting, and it sounds like a lot of money, but I really like the concept, as Barbara mentioned, of having a master plan that covers all of our concerns.

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Peter Nagrod: And I think that, you know, Oscar and Jonathan, you guys… you guys kind of trapped yourself with this a little bit, because it… it logically doesn't make sense to go out and start buying equipment and things until

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Peter Nagrod: You get this, you know, you're paying this $25,000, it doesn't make sense not to have them

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Peter Nagrod: give the guidance that we need. I want to… I want to train, I really badly, I can't wait to see it, but I think that's something that we should just resolve right now. It doesn't… I don't think… I don't think that, based on what John, Chris, and I'm feeling, is that, you know, you may want to rethink your timetable on this.

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Peter Nagrod: And then that makes it a lot easier, talking about where the money's gonna be used as far as a basketball court or whatever, you know?

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Barbara: So, something that I think might make this conversation flow a little bit better is sticking to the original motion, which was about the playground designer.

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Barbara: So then, when… after we vote on that, if then we want to say, well, in light of that, do we want to go authorize the train purchase now, or do it later? But I think it's starting to get a little muddy.

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John Porter: I agree. I think that's a very, very good point, because that is the motion on the table, and that is what's been proposed by the playground group.

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John Porter: To hire a professional to design this, so…

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John Compton: Oh, at Robert's rules of order, somebody would have called the question, because the discussion was getting off track.

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John Porter: Okay?

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John Compton: Barbara's done that in a much more, groovy way.

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John Compton: So, if… if there are any other comments about

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John Compton: the Council's approval of preparing an RFP for playground design, you can make it. Otherwise, we'll move to a vote on that.

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Peter Nagrod: Okay.

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John Compton: All right, then all in favor of approving that?

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John Compton: Rob.

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Robert Gilmore: Rob says aye.

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John Compton: Okay, Chris, you do.

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Peter Nagrod: He's, he's thinking.

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Kriss Grisham: I'm still thinking.

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John Compton: Any opposed?

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Kriss Grisham: Who is… who is drafting it, though? I guess that's my.

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John Compton: The playground committee is drafting an RFP.

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Kriss Grisham: Okay, okay. I approve.

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John Porter: It's just an RFP at this point.

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Peter Nagrod: Yeah.

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Kriss Grisham: Yep. Yeah.

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John Compton: So you avoided it for the train set, but you're not avoiding it for this one.

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John Compton: Okay.

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John Compton: Now…

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Peter Nagrod: You're muted, John.

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John Compton: Let's go back to the other proposal that I heard, but we need a motion, and that is to,

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John Compton: to, bring to the Council a proposal to purchase the train

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John Compton: Car set for the playground, Now.

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John Compton: Can I make?

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Jonathan Dail and Kristina Kough: a comment, or should I wait until after?

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John Compton: No, let's wait till we have a motion, because I have a comment as well, first.

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Mary W: This is Mary, I'll make the motion that we vote to approve the… The train set now.

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John Compton: the, the, the… We're not… We're… we're approving going…

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John Compton: We don't have a proposal, Mary. What we have is an intent to bring a… a… a… just like we did for the radar.

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John Compton: Speed signs, you know, you got a few bids, or a few sources. We prefer this one, and here's why.

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John Compton: And that's what we… I think the Council would be voting in for.

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John Porter: We're not voting for the purchase, we're voting for to see proposals.

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John Compton: Yes.

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John Porter: Okay.

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John Compton: Yes, exactly.

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John Compton: But, do I have a second to Mary's?

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John Compton: Mayor's motion to, to proceed in that way.

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John Compton: Okay, no second yet. Let me throw something out here. So, I completely sympathize

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John Compton: With the idea that, hey, we have summer coming, we really don't have… we can't do much at the playground in any sensible way, but maybe we can put in a… this… this train… wooden train thing, which is relatively low cost.

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John Compton: And that would provide a, a little stimulus in the playground.

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John Compton: I'm just gonna ask a question. What is… is that…

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John Compton: With those… my… I looked at those pieces. They look like they could be relocated rather easily.

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John Compton: So, if there is a current space.

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John Compton: That you could put a train set. Existing space.

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John Compton: Probably not 6 cars, but whatever, 4 cars. Soon, or, like, right away.

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John Compton: That could easily be moved when a plan is developed.

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John Compton: which might produce a larger space, or might, you know, whatever the plan… the site plan. Because don't forget, the train is actually one of the ideas in the comprehensive plan.

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John Compton: So, there's nothing…

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John Compton: you know, extreme about this. It's only the order of things, but if you could… if it can be…

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John Compton: installed and then relocated at relatively low expense, then I think the idea… the point would be, hey, let's just make this improvement to the playground while we're working out where this will go permanently.

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John Porter: So I… I will speak to this, you know, looking at the pictures of Constitution Gardens, which was an example of the playground that, you know, this design group has done, is… it's not only the elements, but the…

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John Porter: the unified design and the look and feel of all the elements that make the playground what it is. You know, it's all natural wood.

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John Porter: And very… So it's… all's I'm saying is that you may pick a… you may…

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John Porter: Purchase a train set that doesn't end up looking like it fits in with the rest of the playground once it's designed.

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Andy Bielen: John, can I speak to that real quick? So I will just emphasize that we have… I just did a maintenance inspection yesterday at the playground.

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John Compton: Andy, hold up a minute. Is it alright with Council if we have these various playground committee members contribute to this discussion?

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Barbara: Well, I'm a little confused there was no second for the motion, so… why are we moving forward with it?

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John Compton: True. There's no second.

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Mary W: Does…

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Robert Gilmore: Can you repeat what the motion is?

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Mary W: John's question about how easily these… the…

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Mary W: The train could be… do you guys know?

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Andy Bielen: Yeah, these, I mean, they're, you know, 4 feet high, you know.

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Andy Bielen: 6 feet long apiece, or something like that, I don't see any issue moving them around.

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Mary W: Presumably, this… the consultants that we're going to get are not gonna start over with a new plan. I mean, they're gonna look at your.

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Andy Bielen: No, not well.

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Mary W: plan, look at the things you want to do, so there's no reason why this would not be integrated into the final plan. What they're helping you do is figure out the sites, figure out the details of, you know, the ADA, the grading, some things that we don't all have the expertise for, so I don't… I don't think we're…

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Robert Gilmore: I'm gonna second the point of order, point of order. I'm gonna second the motion just so that the debate we're having on the motion is procedurally proper.

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Robert Gilmore: Doesn't mean I necessarily support it, but…

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John Compton: Alright, promotion.

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Kathy Lehman: And who was that?

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Robert Gilmore: Rob…

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Kathy Lehman: Thank you.

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Robert Gilmore: You're welcome.

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Andy Bielen: So, the point I will make here in response to John's question is, you know.

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Andy Bielen: instead of Constitutional Garden, which was built from the ground up as one integrated thing, we have legacy equipment out there, some of which is in excellent shape and is very popular and has no reason to be removed at this point. Some of which is in terrible shape and needs to get… be removed to make room for some of the newer things. So…

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Andy Bielen: There's gonna be an element from the designer to have to find a way to make things that are there, that work for us.

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Andy Bielen: coherent with whatever the designer proposes on their own.

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John Porter: Absolutely. And I'm assuming they'll start with the comprehensive plan, in terms of what your vision for the thing is.

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Andy Bielen: That's right.

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John Porter: And you'll know all that ahead of time. All's I'm saying is that just because you buy equipment at the beginning, before the plan is completed, before the design is completed, doesn't necessarily mean it's going to fit in with what the final design is.

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John Porter: In terms of the overall look and feel, and the feel of the… the feel of the playground.

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Andy Bielen: I think that we have a very good idea of what we want… where we want this field to be, and I think that the choices that we have worked through on

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Andy Bielen: the trains that are on the market that would all fit within that vision or that aesthetic. So, I don't… I don't envision our decision on the overall plan or whatever the designer comes up with. Like, you know, again, there are… we are their customer, they have to make us happy, and if they come back with some goofy-looking thing that doesn't fit the town or doesn't fit the aesthetics of what we have in there, then we'll tell them

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Andy Bielen: No, go back and try again.

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Andy Bielen: Agreed.

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John Porter: Agreed, absolutely.

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Andy Bielen: Yeah.

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John Porter: That's weird.

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Andy Bielen: Yeah, I will say, you know, I'm not gonna die on this hill as to whether or not.

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Peter Nagrod: in a box.

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Andy Bielen: the train first, or wait, or whatever. But it would be very nice to be able to show something to the community, like, before we have to go through the whole process of design and…

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Peter Nagrod: You know, and in some ways, there's, like, a lot of people who are involved with this playground.

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Peter Nagrod: And it's really… it's the future of Washington Grove, all the… a lot of younger people with kids. And it would be nice… if it's gone from what was going to be 20,000 down to around 10, that's nice. And it is nice for, you know, for that group to see

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Peter Nagrod: get a little win to keep the momentum going, and I think that's important. I think one of the biggest concerns is

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Peter Nagrod: The water situation there, as far as drainage.

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Peter Nagrod: And that's something that, a lot of people, in town are concerned about, and if you could assuage their fears that it's gonna create, like, it'll be a dam or something backing it up or whatever, I think that's… that would be really important.

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Oscar Ramos: Yeah, when we met with Steve, he was talking, with us about French drains that he installed under some of those enclosed areas, and that's the kind of thing you could do. You can dig a French drain, underneath a little bit of gravel on the footing, and then just draw it out to the ditch.

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Kriss Grisham: So, one of the… I guess I'm still scratching my head trying to figure out why we are talking about writing an RFP to have a

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Kriss Grisham: a qualified designer come in, right, to help us with the layout, and I'm assuming that they also know the types of materials that the playground equipment

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Kriss Grisham: are provided in, be it wood, be it polywood, be it coated, coated steel, whatever it might be.

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Kriss Grisham: Or is it just that we're trying… in the RFP, are we looking for placement of equipment that you, the committee, have already

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Kriss Grisham: described, I guess, in your comprehensive plan.

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Kriss Grisham: In other words, you know, I'm thinking that the consultant that you bring in, they're gonna know, you know, wood. What's it gonna cost for the overall,

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Kriss Grisham: Periodic maintenance, long-term maintenance, and durability of the equipment, right?

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Andy Bielen: All those equipment specs that you're describing and concerned about are within the estimates that we're getting from the playground manufacturer, from the equipment manufacturers. Like, we've got… we've had discussions and have stuff on our spreadsheet about how long does this last, what kind of maintenance does it need, what's the design life, what's the… like, all that stuff is already embedded within the

736
01:21:45.190 --> 01:22:08.460
Andy Bielen: equipment itself when you buy it. Now, I will answer that no, we haven't picked out specific pieces of equipment for every single zone yet, because, again, this was envisioned as a multi-year process. The playground designer will allow us to accelerate that in an intelligent fashion. And yeah, I do agree that… I mean, we all agree, we're all of the same mind in the comprehensive plan, that there has to be

737
01:22:08.610 --> 01:22:11.700
Andy Bielen: A coherent aesthetic

738
01:22:12.030 --> 01:22:22.439
Andy Bielen: groovy aesthetic with whatever the playground plan ends up producing, and what this contract and this grant end up producing for us.

739
01:22:22.440 --> 01:22:25.590
John Porter: And that's the whole point of having a designer.

740
01:22:25.960 --> 01:22:26.680
Andy Bielen: Right.

741
01:22:26.680 --> 01:22:30.980
John Porter: That a design group that has the experience that you described.

742
01:22:30.980 --> 01:22:31.620
Andy Bielen: Yep.

743
01:22:31.620 --> 01:22:48.790
John Porter: And the design experience, and all the background that goes along with that. It's like hiring an architect to design your house. They're going to bring so much information to the table, and help you pick out the right kind of equipment that goes together and works together within the areas that we have.

744
01:22:48.790 --> 01:22:49.720
Peter Nagrod: Just…

745
01:22:49.720 --> 01:22:53.149
John Porter: That's the only reason to spend $25,000 on somebody.

746
01:22:53.150 --> 01:22:55.879
Peter Nagrod: Well, but John, John and Chris.

747
01:22:56.030 --> 01:23:01.499
Peter Nagrod: Constitution Park, I think what I heard from you is that that was kind of made from scratch.

748
01:23:01.810 --> 01:23:02.920
John Porter: Yeah, right, okay.

749
01:23:03.040 --> 01:23:04.779
Peter Nagrod: Okay, will you remember…

750
01:23:05.120 --> 01:23:14.059
Peter Nagrod: a year or two years ago, when the merry-go-round was gonna be removed. They're not gonna come in here and remove

751
01:23:14.060 --> 01:23:29.259
Peter Nagrod: you know, all of our equipment are below, and so this is going to be a hybrid, and so I don't have a fear of, like, the train or something not being relevant, because they've got to look at our history and what we have, and I know that's something, you know, so it's really…

752
01:23:29.290 --> 01:23:39.049
Peter Nagrod: it's not… you know, maybe we don't even honestly need it, I don't know if we need a designer or not, but I… I personally don't have a problem with moving forward with the train, and that's just me.

753
01:23:39.050 --> 01:23:50.400
John Compton: Okay, speaking to this particular motion, that which is to… bring… A specific proposal for

754
01:23:50.670 --> 01:23:53.380
John Compton: A purchase of train cars.

755
01:23:53.840 --> 01:23:55.700
John Compton: For the playground.

756
01:23:55.800 --> 01:24:06.949
John Compton: and install them… w-before… This… the planning for the reconfigured, rejuvenated playground.

757
01:24:07.100 --> 01:24:11.049
John Compton: Speaking to that, I mean, I… I don't…

758
01:24:12.050 --> 01:24:20.450
John Compton: First of all, the playground committee, I believe, was looking at a 6-car train. I don't think there'll be room for a 6-car train.

759
01:24:20.560 --> 01:24:23.490
John Compton: This in the current space.

760
01:24:23.630 --> 01:24:30.099
John Compton: So, I would say, look, come back with a 4 car, something that will fit somewhere on our…

761
01:24:30.250 --> 01:24:33.660
John Compton: Current playground. Something we can install…

762
01:24:34.160 --> 01:24:39.330
John Compton: You know, in… before the summer gets buried, or before the summer, even.

763
01:24:40.340 --> 01:24:41.529
Andy Bielen: John.

764
01:24:41.530 --> 01:24:43.149
John Compton: Something that can be moved.

765
01:24:44.340 --> 01:24:51.350
John Compton: when and if The playground design is settled upon.

766
01:24:51.980 --> 01:24:54.100
John Compton: When that time comes.

767
01:24:54.550 --> 01:25:00.709
John Compton: I don't see any downside to that, except the cost of moving it.

768
01:25:01.270 --> 01:25:04.220
John Compton: Moving the units.

769
01:25:04.550 --> 01:25:06.420
Oscar Ramos: If I can just make a quick suggestions…

770
01:25:06.420 --> 01:25:11.649
John Compton: sense to me. Secondly, I want to speak to Chris's… the point about the playground designer.

771
01:25:11.930 --> 01:25:16.020
John Compton: I think this… Sorry.

772
01:25:18.310 --> 01:25:23.419
John Compton: I think any design of the playground has to start with a comprehensive plan.

773
01:25:23.890 --> 01:25:31.379
John Compton: And that means that the relative location of Equipment has already been

774
01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:38.130
John Compton: imagined. So, this designer doesn't have to create a new playground concept.

775
01:25:38.300 --> 01:25:48.290
John Compton: They don't have to… get public input. They only need to get playground committee input as to how

776
01:25:48.410 --> 01:25:58.249
John Compton: to, how to execute what the comprehensive plan. So, in the scope of work, I think it should be… make it clear that that's what they're going to be doing.

777
01:25:58.430 --> 01:26:03.640
John Compton: Which cuts out a good deal of what a typical playground designer does.

778
01:26:03.850 --> 01:26:13.430
John Compton: Which is, you know, what should this playground consist of? And then they put in… they do a design which meets the needs of the community.

779
01:26:14.140 --> 01:26:19.070
John Compton: So, that's my opinion about what… the issue of scope of work and…

780
01:26:19.270 --> 01:26:23.719
John Compton: That they're not going to duplicate the comprehensive plan

781
01:26:24.460 --> 01:26:29.790
John Compton: Conclusions, or, or, or, specifications.

782
01:26:29.790 --> 01:26:31.490
Oscar Ramos: And I suggest,

783
01:26:31.490 --> 01:26:31.840
John Porter: Absolutely.

784
01:26:31.840 --> 01:26:39.500
Oscar Ramos: We can… if you… allow the playground committee to move forward.

785
01:26:39.500 --> 01:26:39.890
John Compton: Mmm.

786
01:26:39.890 --> 01:26:54.480
Oscar Ramos: I mean, with a design on a train set, and we come back in May and say, right now we're just talking about a train set, we can come back by May and say, here's the actual design we want, six cars, this is the process, and then you can decide whether you approve

787
01:26:54.570 --> 01:27:07.699
Oscar Ramos: purchasing it, or if you say, you know what, in this month, we've also made some progress on RFP, and we've talked to more designers, and we have a sense of what that looks like, and then you can decide which one's first, which one's second, if you

788
01:27:07.930 --> 01:27:10.729
Oscar Ramos: want to just move forward with the RFP, or if you say, you know what.

789
01:27:11.270 --> 01:27:13.730
Oscar Ramos: This design for the train would work well.

790
01:27:13.990 --> 01:27:31.959
Oscar Ramos: And it might be moved, but we'll say yes, and you might just say no. You might just say, you know what, let's go with the design process instead, and have the train be part of that. I think that's… but for now, I think we can just say, have us bring to you a design, an actual preferred company, the design, all that stuff next month.

791
01:27:37.240 --> 01:27:38.510
Peter Nagrod: You're muted.

792
01:27:40.320 --> 01:27:43.689
Peter Nagrod: That's okay. Yeah, sounds good, Oscar.

793
01:27:44.100 --> 01:27:45.240
Kriss Grisham: John, you're muted?

794
01:27:45.240 --> 01:27:46.430
Peter Nagrod: Look at what he's saying.

795
01:27:46.860 --> 01:27:53.279
John Compton: care what I'm saying? You don't care what I'm saying. That's exactly what I think the, the motion was… was…

796
01:27:53.400 --> 01:28:00.449
John Compton: asking for was, yes, it's okay, bring us a proposal. You've now heard a whole bunch of concerns.

797
01:28:01.110 --> 01:28:05.870
John Compton: And you can, you know, you can make your recommendations with those in mind.

798
01:28:06.580 --> 01:28:07.990
Peter Nagrod: What was the motion?

799
01:28:08.660 --> 01:28:09.870
John Porter: There's two motions.

800
01:28:09.870 --> 01:28:20.109
John Compton: The motion was to, encourage… to, accept a, proposal from the… I'm rephrasing, Mary. Accept a proposal from the playground committee

801
01:28:20.260 --> 01:28:26.410
John Compton: to purchase… An active… a train car.

802
01:28:26.820 --> 01:28:27.619
John Compton: Is that.

803
01:28:29.070 --> 01:28:29.490
Peter Nagrod: Yeah.

804
01:28:30.520 --> 01:28:31.120
Mary W: Yep.

805
01:28:31.310 --> 01:28:31.850
John Porter: Nope.

806
01:28:34.090 --> 01:28:35.049
John Compton: And Rob, second.

807
01:28:35.050 --> 01:28:38.420
Peter Nagrod: It wasn't to buy it, it was to present a proposal.

808
01:28:38.420 --> 01:28:44.590
John Compton: Yeah, once again, it's, you know, we're not gonna… in this case, we're only gonna…

809
01:28:44.960 --> 01:28:49.369
John Compton: Approve something we see the… Pacific time.

810
01:28:49.370 --> 01:28:51.380
Peter Nagrod: So what are we arguing about? Does this not…

811
01:28:51.380 --> 01:28:54.519
Robert Gilmore: Point of information, does this not require.

812
01:28:54.520 --> 01:28:55.110
John Compton: A.

813
01:28:55.110 --> 01:28:56.060
Robert Gilmore: RFP?

814
01:28:56.520 --> 01:28:58.160
Robert Gilmore: To be issued, before we make.

815
01:28:58.160 --> 01:29:02.740
John Compton: No, last… last council meeting, Council voted

816
01:29:03.030 --> 01:29:15.130
John Compton: to, to, not require an RFP, but to instead accept competing bids, proposals, competing proposals.

817
01:29:15.740 --> 01:29:24.939
John Compton: for the train set. And the playground committee would then make a recommendation as to which one and why it is the preferred

818
01:29:25.280 --> 01:29:26.920
John Compton: purchase.

819
01:29:27.250 --> 01:29:43.510
Oscar Ramos: So we have a spreadsheet right now of about 6 different companies, and 6 car versions, 8 car versions, wood, polywood. So when we come back in May, we'll narrow that down to the few companies we've got, only with, like, the 6-car design, wood, with the Pollywood track, and just show you those.

820
01:29:43.850 --> 01:29:46.880
Oscar Ramos: And tell you which one we prefer and why.

821
01:29:46.880 --> 01:29:55.770
John Compton: Where would we go, sir. Where would… where are you gonna put it? Yep. It can be used this summer, because we're not installing any new…

822
01:29:56.100 --> 01:29:58.219
John Compton: Areas, or whatever, so…

823
01:29:59.310 --> 01:30:08.859
Kriss Grisham: So, you know, along those lines, I'm still very confused, because it's not just going out and buying a piece of equipment. It's not like you're going to…

824
01:30:08.970 --> 01:30:13.190
Kriss Grisham: a car lot, and buying a car, and getting the keys, and driving off, right?

825
01:30:13.190 --> 01:30:13.780
John Compton: That's.

826
01:30:13.780 --> 01:30:24.999
Kriss Grisham: There's long-term costs involved. There's planning involved, right? Before you buy the car and drive off, they tell you you have to have insurance.

827
01:30:25.220 --> 01:30:31.330
Kriss Grisham: They tell you you have to have a driver's license. So, there are a lot of, pre…

828
01:30:31.430 --> 01:30:33.969
Kriss Grisham: Determine requirements before you could…

829
01:30:34.170 --> 01:30:44.940
Kriss Grisham: buy something. And what we're saying is, give us proposals, and you're… Oscar, you're saying there's, what, 6 places that you've already talked to, and they have all these various costs?

830
01:30:44.980 --> 01:30:57.940
Kriss Grisham: But I guess the question I have is, sure, if you buy the equipment, then, you know, we're hiring a designer that's supposed to help us lay the playground

831
01:30:58.000 --> 01:31:03.089
Kriss Grisham: design out. So it's kind of, again, the cart before the horse, and

832
01:31:03.250 --> 01:31:09.819
Kriss Grisham: How are you gonna buy a piece of equipment? Let's have that conversation next one. Wait, wait.

833
01:31:09.820 --> 01:31:10.260
Andy Bielen: You're gonna…

834
01:31:10.260 --> 01:31:13.599
Kriss Grisham: buy a piece of equipment, or why are you going to buy a piece of equipment?

835
01:31:13.720 --> 01:31:17.699
Kriss Grisham: And then just go out and hire somebody to tell us, you know.

836
01:31:18.340 --> 01:31:32.419
Kriss Grisham: it's not gonna fit here. You want 6 cars, but we don't have enough room for 6 cars. Or if you do, you're gonna have to dig up a lot of the ground, and put in French drains. That is added cost, and we have no clue what that's gonna be.

837
01:31:32.860 --> 01:31:36.190
Andy Bielen: I don't think that's… I don't think no clue is accurate at this point.

838
01:31:36.190 --> 01:31:39.480
Kriss Grisham: Do you have any numbers? Can you provide the Council some numbers?

839
01:31:39.480 --> 01:31:41.340
Oscar Ramos: Chris, Chris, provide those…

840
01:31:41.340 --> 01:31:45.360
Andy Bielen: We'll provide those numbers for your next month. Yes.

841
01:31:45.500 --> 01:31:46.429
Oscar Ramos: Great questions in a month.

842
01:31:46.430 --> 01:32:05.810
Andy Bielen: We'll have all those questions answered for you if you decide… and if you decide, hey, you gotta wait until we get into the plan, then great. You know, that's the direction. But this is something that we think is worth pursuing, it's worth our time, on top of also putting an RFP together, and we want to push forward with it.

843
01:32:05.900 --> 01:32:06.520
Andy Bielen: Okay?

844
01:32:06.520 --> 01:32:07.270
Peter Nagrod: Okay.

845
01:32:07.270 --> 01:32:11.969
John Compton: And Chris and others have made known what they want to see.

846
01:32:12.950 --> 01:32:20.840
John Compton: You know, given that this is being… that this is a capital purchase before we…

847
01:32:21.210 --> 01:32:27.120
John Compton: We, improve the playground layout and site plan.

848
01:32:27.340 --> 01:32:36.459
John Compton: My proposal was… I think that makes this possible is because this… these pieces of equipment are easily moved.

849
01:32:37.170 --> 01:32:43.280
John Compton: It's not one of the big things that has to be installed, and there's a large rigmarole, and…

850
01:32:43.390 --> 01:32:51.239
John Compton: in, ensuring that the piece is functioning correctly. But if that's not the case, I could be wrong.

851
01:32:51.240 --> 01:32:51.879
Kriss Grisham: So, John.

852
01:32:51.880 --> 01:32:53.580
John Compton: You're good.

853
01:32:53.580 --> 01:33:07.080
Kriss Grisham: When you say easily moved, sure, I mean, you could pick it up and move it, but there's ground preparation requirements, and if you put it in a wet area, you're going to have to do a lot of preparatory work in the surfacing and subsurfacing.

854
01:33:07.080 --> 01:33:10.530
John Compton: But we're only talking about temporary location on a car.

855
01:33:10.530 --> 01:33:18.609
Kriss Grisham: So are you just going to throw it into, you know, a swampy area, and then figure you're gonna move it later? And that's what I mean.

856
01:33:18.610 --> 01:33:19.519
John Compton: Have a sweet spot.

857
01:33:19.520 --> 01:33:26.909
Peter Nagrod: explained, as Oscar said, that's all gonna be in… if they want us to approve what they want.

858
01:33:27.100 --> 01:33:32.640
Peter Nagrod: John just said it too, is that a lot of people have concerns, and they're going to address those concerns.

859
01:33:32.870 --> 01:33:37.390
Peter Nagrod: next… at the next meeting. And if they don't, then we'll vote it down.

860
01:33:37.540 --> 01:33:40.429
Peter Nagrod: But let them… let them get their shot at it.

861
01:33:40.430 --> 01:33:42.910
Oscar Ramos: I think you guys can move on, you're going in circles? Yeah.

862
01:33:43.160 --> 01:33:45.119
Peter Nagrod: Okay. Exactly, yeah, yeah.

863
01:33:45.120 --> 01:33:54.649
John Compton: All right, well, we have talked around this. We have a motion to approve this pro… this… this… this moving forward. Everybody understand the motion?

864
01:33:54.650 --> 01:33:55.040
Peter Nagrod: Yes.

865
01:33:55.040 --> 01:33:55.750
John Porter: Yes.

866
01:33:56.110 --> 01:34:00.149
John Compton: Okay, all in favor of allowing the Playground Committee to proceed?

867
01:34:00.540 --> 01:34:03.389
John Compton: I see 4 votes.

868
01:34:03.550 --> 01:34:05.210
John Compton: Chris is not.

869
01:34:05.210 --> 01:34:06.540
Robert Gilmore: Robs does I.

870
01:34:06.690 --> 01:34:07.490
John Compton: Rob?

871
01:34:08.670 --> 01:34:09.160
Peter Nagrod: Good.

872
01:34:09.160 --> 01:34:10.539
John Compton: I'm sorry, did you say.

873
01:34:10.540 --> 01:34:11.280
Robert Gilmore: Why?

874
01:34:11.280 --> 01:34:11.900
Peter Nagrod: Hi.

875
01:34:12.130 --> 01:34:13.340
John Compton: Opposed?

876
01:34:14.000 --> 01:34:18.810
John Compton: Okay, Chris is opposed, so that's a 5 to 1. Go to it, guys.

877
01:34:19.540 --> 01:34:21.130
John Compton: Yeah. Alright.

878
01:34:21.460 --> 01:34:26.279
John Compton: Well, thanks. That was a good discussion because, you know.

879
01:34:26.280 --> 01:34:26.640
Peter Nagrod: Strong.

880
01:34:26.640 --> 01:34:31.830
John Compton: to have… we're gonna have a similar thing. I mean, all the points about the pro…

881
01:34:32.110 --> 01:34:38.970
John Compton: Of the… about the playground design, will re-emerge

882
01:34:39.120 --> 01:34:41.890
John Compton: when you come back with your RFP.

883
01:34:43.680 --> 01:34:51.239
John Compton: Okay, alright, the last two items on the administrative, agenda are appointments.

884
01:34:51.650 --> 01:34:58.710
John Compton: First one's an appointment of Bill Earle to a full commissioner on the Planning Commission.

885
01:34:58.970 --> 01:35:03.079
John Compton: Sylvie Fravre's term is up.

886
01:35:03.520 --> 01:35:10.899
John Compton: She indicated to Georgette that she, was not, positioned to continue.

887
01:35:11.330 --> 01:35:18.430
John Compton: So Bill is the alternate, and he is willing to step into the full commission.

888
01:35:18.540 --> 01:35:22.670
John Compton: So I am proposing appointment of Bill Earle.

889
01:35:22.810 --> 01:35:27.119
John Compton: To a commissioner on the Planning Commission.

890
01:35:27.340 --> 01:35:33.580
John Compton: The term being from July 1st to June 30th, 2031, 5 years.

891
01:35:33.870 --> 01:35:35.139
Peter Nagrod: Oh, 31, huh?

892
01:35:35.370 --> 01:35:36.280
John Compton: 5 years.

893
01:35:36.800 --> 01:35:41.560
John Compton: Okay, any comments?

894
01:35:42.910 --> 01:35:43.550
Peter Nagrod: Yeah.

895
01:35:43.550 --> 01:35:46.909
John Compton: As you know, the Council has…

896
01:35:47.540 --> 01:35:54.209
John Compton: needs to approve the mayor's appointment, so if there are no comments, all in favor of appointing Bill Oil, Commissioner?

897
01:35:54.810 --> 01:35:55.570
John Compton: Rob?

898
01:35:57.890 --> 01:35:58.700
John Compton: Rob?

899
01:35:59.900 --> 01:36:01.799
Robert Gilmore: Hi, sorry, I was on mute.

900
01:36:01.800 --> 01:36:08.520
John Compton: Alright, that's, seems to be unanimous. The, the, the next appointment… You're gonna love this.

901
01:36:08.640 --> 01:36:15.380
John Compton: if you read it, is to the Historic Preservation Commission, and this is Bill Earle again.

902
01:36:15.720 --> 01:36:20.750
John Compton: Whose term that he is occupying.

903
01:36:20.910 --> 01:36:23.139
John Compton: Is up.

904
01:36:23.350 --> 01:36:25.290
John Compton: The terms are 3 years.

905
01:36:25.550 --> 01:36:26.300
Peter Nagrod: Oh, that's quite cool.

906
01:36:26.300 --> 01:36:27.090
John Compton: the,

907
01:36:27.680 --> 01:36:38.520
John Compton: the, Commission, the chair of the commission has, expressed, his opinion that Bill is, making good contributions, and…

908
01:36:38.840 --> 01:36:40.689
John Compton: Therefore, I'm,

909
01:36:41.120 --> 01:36:52.510
John Compton: Proposing appointment, reappointment of Bill Earle to the… as a commissioner on the HPC for the 3-year term ending June 30th, 2029.

910
01:36:53.900 --> 01:36:55.710
John Compton: Any comments on this appointment?

911
01:36:58.670 --> 01:37:00.379
John Compton: If not, all in favor?

912
01:37:02.630 --> 01:37:03.410
John Compton: Chris?

913
01:37:04.430 --> 01:37:05.010
John Compton: Rob?

914
01:37:05.010 --> 01:37:06.490
Robert Gilmore: I. Prod.

915
01:37:06.490 --> 01:37:07.770
John Compton: Unanimous, thank you.

916
01:37:08.770 --> 01:37:09.900
John Compton: In favor?

917
01:37:15.090 --> 01:37:20.140
John Compton: at… Okay, we come to the… Elephant in the meeting.

918
01:37:20.480 --> 01:37:24.620
John Compton: Which is, the Council's,

919
01:37:24.820 --> 01:37:36.540
John Compton: budget, that we need… the Council needs to approve to be, transmitted for the… to the annual meeting for consideration and approval.

920
01:37:36.920 --> 01:37:40.360
John Compton: And the tax rate, of course. So…

921
01:37:40.490 --> 01:37:43.590
John Compton: going to let, I'm going to put up and let…

922
01:37:45.060 --> 01:37:48.829
John Compton: Well, maybe, and maybe not. We.

923
01:37:48.830 --> 01:37:51.359
Jean Moyer: I… I have it up if you…

924
01:37:52.230 --> 01:37:53.090
John Compton: habit.

925
01:37:53.280 --> 01:37:55.160
Jean Moyer: I have it up, yeah, so…

926
01:37:55.470 --> 01:37:57.169
John Compton: If I let you put it up.

927
01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:01.980
John Compton: Okay, I'll try and do that.

928
01:38:02.870 --> 01:38:08.280
John Compton: Oh, for crying out loud, can you please…

929
01:38:09.580 --> 01:38:12.010
John Compton: Alright, I'd have to do this the hard way.

930
01:38:13.760 --> 01:38:17.449
John Compton: co-hosts. And I'm making you a co-hosts, I can't just let you share.

931
01:38:18.950 --> 01:38:19.870
John Compton: Okay.

932
01:38:19.870 --> 01:38:30.970
Jean Moyer: Alright… So, to… Nothing… Well…

933
01:38:31.190 --> 01:38:41.160
Jean Moyer: We have a solid number for the county municipal tax duplication, this 103. The previous budget you saw, we penciled in 99.

934
01:38:41.410 --> 01:38:47.410
Jean Moyer: 1,000, it's another 4,000, so that's an updated number.

935
01:38:47.520 --> 01:39:01.210
Jean Moyer: John had conversation with Marcus Trapp, the IT website consultant, and we dropped… these numbers were both, 20,000, we've…

936
01:39:01.360 --> 01:39:04.159
Jean Moyer: Marcus thinks we could drop those.

937
01:39:04.280 --> 01:39:06.560
Jean Moyer: Down to 10,000.

938
01:39:06.750 --> 01:39:13.770
Jean Moyer: And, an item at the very bottom are liability insurance.

939
01:39:13.970 --> 01:39:20.770
Jean Moyer: The previous version, I had been advised that we could pencil in a 10% increase.

940
01:39:21.020 --> 01:39:30.060
Jean Moyer: The… it ended up being a 19% increase. It's a small enough number that that extra amount's not huge.

941
01:39:30.380 --> 01:39:34.430
Jean Moyer: But I have made that change. It's at the very bottom.

942
01:39:34.680 --> 01:39:41.450
Jean Moyer: And, we need to address how we want to handle the resurfacing.

943
01:39:41.870 --> 01:39:49.730
Jean Moyer: This is currently how we have it spread, but if we're not going to spend any of it.

944
01:39:50.110 --> 01:39:55.680
John Compton: No, I think the decision was not to spend… well, to spend a small… if any, we'll spend a small.

945
01:39:55.680 --> 01:39:59.899
Jean Moyer: Yes, so I am awaiting instructions on what… how to change this.

946
01:40:00.780 --> 01:40:07.460
John Compton: So, I was suggesting we up the, the budget for next year.

947
01:40:07.770 --> 01:40:10.090
John Compton: To, account for…

948
01:40:10.220 --> 01:40:21.600
John Compton: Perhaps for doing the areas, the few areas that could benefit that we know of now, and possibly the intersections after the stormwater management work.

949
01:40:22.600 --> 01:40:23.890
Jean Moyer: So what number…

950
01:40:23.890 --> 01:40:24.930
John Compton: 75.

951
01:40:24.930 --> 01:40:33.199
Jean Moyer: 75… And what… are we doing anything to improve some of the,

952
01:40:33.490 --> 01:40:37.910
Jean Moyer: Sharp drop-offs at intersections with any of the resurfacing.

953
01:40:37.910 --> 01:40:41.720
John Compton: Alright, make it 8. Make it 80, because, yeah, we oughta.

954
01:40:43.230 --> 01:40:51.429
John Compton: what Gene is discussing is that, you know, the corners of a number of intersections,

955
01:40:51.820 --> 01:40:54.530
John Compton: Some of them have walls that are…

956
01:40:55.200 --> 01:41:01.439
John Compton: Not in good shape, and some of them should have some sort of a… barrier to keep…

957
01:41:01.650 --> 01:41:09.109
John Compton: keep vehicles from dropping off the, off the edge of the road. We, we planned to put those in

958
01:41:10.080 --> 01:41:14.690
John Compton: Several of the intersections where we're doing stormwater improvements.

959
01:41:15.020 --> 01:41:20.480
John Compton: So, we want to be able to, have funds for

960
01:41:21.210 --> 01:41:24.480
John Compton: The ones that are not in the stormwater management project.

961
01:41:25.900 --> 01:41:28.379
Jean Moyer: Are we putting zero in fiscal 26?

962
01:41:28.860 --> 01:41:31.729
John Compton: Excuse me? Excuse me?

963
01:41:36.140 --> 01:41:37.980
John Compton: About 2026?

964
01:41:38.260 --> 01:41:38.930
Jean Moyer: Yeah.

965
01:41:39.730 --> 01:41:40.519
John Compton: What about it?

966
01:41:40.950 --> 01:41:43.140
Jean Moyer: Is it… are we changing it to zero?

967
01:41:43.780 --> 01:41:49.550
John Compton: I'd leave a thousand, maybe. I… yeah, we… maybe a couple thousand we might spend.

968
01:41:50.150 --> 01:41:52.539
John Compton: Peter mentioned Acorn, so…

969
01:41:52.680 --> 01:42:00.510
Peter Nagrod: Well, John, what about… but there are some very dangerous intersections, like the one that's down by Oak.

970
01:42:00.730 --> 01:42:03.540
Peter Nagrod: And, and hickory.

971
01:42:03.770 --> 01:42:06.190
John Compton: Part of the stormwater management project.

972
01:42:06.190 --> 01:42:09.049
Peter Nagrod: Oh, so, okay, so that's… alright.

973
01:42:09.370 --> 01:42:13.230
Peter Nagrod: Because you just mentioned that there was some… Gene said drop-offs.

974
01:42:13.630 --> 01:42:14.849
Jean Moyer: That's what I meant, yeah.

975
01:42:14.990 --> 01:42:17.409
Peter Nagrod: So that's gonna be cut… there'll… there will be…

976
01:42:17.860 --> 01:42:20.530
Jean Moyer: Not all, some, the ones that are…

977
01:42:20.530 --> 01:42:21.190
Peter Nagrod: Because that's…

978
01:42:21.190 --> 01:42:28.460
Jean Moyer: Part of the project, but then the resurfacing this $80,000 in the next fiscal year could include that.

979
01:42:29.230 --> 01:42:29.630
Peter Nagrod: And then…

980
01:42:29.630 --> 01:42:30.520
Jean Moyer: diagnosed.

981
01:42:31.250 --> 01:42:33.350
Peter Nagrod: In the next fiscal year, meaning…

982
01:42:34.040 --> 01:42:35.580
Jean Moyer: Fiscal 27.

983
01:42:35.580 --> 01:42:36.740
Peter Nagrod: 27.

984
01:42:37.330 --> 01:42:44.000
Peter Nagrod: All right, because if it's a… if it's a… if it's a safety issue, then we have the money, we should do it ASAP, but…

985
01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:45.340
Jean Moyer: I, I agree, I…

986
01:42:45.340 --> 01:42:46.070
Peter Nagrod: Yeah.

987
01:42:46.070 --> 01:42:46.380
Jean Moyer: Hi.

988
01:42:46.380 --> 01:42:50.589
John Compton: It's no more a safety issue today than it was 3 years ago.

989
01:42:50.590 --> 01:42:55.449
Peter Nagrod: Yeah, but that's… but we have the money now, why not just take care of it instead of waiting for something to happen?

990
01:42:55.450 --> 01:42:58.980
John Compton: We're not waiting. We have the money now. You want to do it? We can do it.

991
01:42:58.980 --> 01:43:06.650
Peter Nagrod: Yeah, that's what I'm saying, why don't we leave some money in here so we can do that, then? Right. Okay. Yeah. If we don't… we could put it in, like, leave.

992
01:43:06.650 --> 01:43:13.480
John Compton: It's not a matter of leaving money in. It's already in, it's a matter of what we think we'll spend by the end of the year.

993
01:43:15.120 --> 01:43:17.439
Jean Moyer: And I think Peter's point is…

994
01:43:17.710 --> 01:43:26.639
Jean Moyer: Will we spend some money in this current fiscal year to address some of those safety issues? In which case, if we are.

995
01:43:27.730 --> 01:43:32.479
Jean Moyer: How much should we put in as a projection for fiscal 26?

996
01:43:32.840 --> 01:43:34.949
John Compton: I, I, I cannot predict.

997
01:43:34.950 --> 01:43:38.300
Jean Moyer: I… I… Peter, you answered that question.

998
01:43:39.760 --> 01:43:47.839
Peter Nagrod: I have… I have… I have no… honestly, but… so, are we looking at… we're talking about 3 different years here, right? We're talking about…

999
01:43:48.070 --> 01:43:48.820
Jean Moyer: No.

1000
01:43:48.820 --> 01:43:51.870
Peter Nagrod: This year? The end of this year, 26th and 27th?

1001
01:43:52.060 --> 01:43:52.810
Jean Moyer: Yes.

1002
01:43:53.000 --> 01:44:00.079
Peter Nagrod: Yeah, so what… we're talking about in 20… we're talking about, right now, 25?

1003
01:44:00.080 --> 01:44:00.940
Jean Moyer: Six.

1004
01:44:00.940 --> 01:44:02.500
Peter Nagrod: You're talking about 26.

1005
01:44:03.370 --> 01:44:03.880
Peter Nagrod: Bye.

1006
01:44:03.880 --> 01:44:08.180
Jean Moyer: June, do you think you will spend some money, because you're the maintenance guy.

1007
01:44:08.700 --> 01:44:11.300
Jean Moyer: Improving some of these safety issues.

1008
01:44:11.300 --> 01:44:13.520
John Compton: Actually, this is a roads guy, but that's okay.

1009
01:44:13.520 --> 01:44:14.470
Jean Moyer: roads guy.

1010
01:44:14.470 --> 01:44:15.050
Peter Nagrod: Rose God.

1011
01:44:15.320 --> 01:44:16.100
Jean Moyer: Yes.

1012
01:44:16.360 --> 01:44:21.520
Peter Nagrod: But it's still… it's still… like, why don't we just leave 10,000, say we'll have 10,000?

1013
01:44:21.520 --> 01:44:25.269
John Compton: We're not… Peter, we're not leaving. This is a projected end.

1014
01:44:25.270 --> 01:44:27.740
Peter Nagrod: Yes, right, right, right. We'll say…

1015
01:44:28.300 --> 01:44:29.810
John Compton: That's all it is.

1016
01:44:29.810 --> 01:44:30.470
Peter Nagrod: Yeah.

1017
01:44:30.970 --> 01:44:33.820
Peter Nagrod: Oh, she… Gene is talking about taking it out.

1018
01:44:34.250 --> 01:44:36.159
John Compton: Changing the projection.

1019
01:44:36.160 --> 01:44:39.529
Jean Moyer: Changing the number from 50,000 to something.

1020
01:44:39.530 --> 01:44:44.590
Peter Nagrod: Right, and I'm saying, so if we're gonna, from 50 to 0, make it 50 to 10.

1021
01:44:45.940 --> 01:44:47.139
Peter Nagrod: Does that make sense, Jean?

1022
01:44:47.140 --> 01:44:50.339
John Compton: do that. But even if we changed it to zero.

1023
01:44:50.340 --> 01:44:51.110
Peter Nagrod: Right.

1024
01:44:51.110 --> 01:44:56.870
John Compton: We could still spend $10,000. All that would mean is the projection was wrong.

1025
01:44:56.870 --> 01:44:58.539
Peter Nagrod: Yeah, but Gene will yell at me, so…

1026
01:44:58.540 --> 01:44:59.379
John Compton: No, she won't.

1027
01:44:59.380 --> 01:45:00.760
Peter Nagrod: I know.

1028
01:45:00.760 --> 01:45:01.100
Jean Moyer: All right.

1029
01:45:02.140 --> 01:45:03.400
Jean Moyer: We'll fix these.

1030
01:45:03.680 --> 01:45:04.660
John Compton: Okay.

1031
01:45:05.790 --> 01:45:10.580
Jean Moyer: Now, the big question, having had the conversation about Playground.

1032
01:45:10.730 --> 01:45:18.889
Jean Moyer: These highlighted areas, these are numbers John proposed on Monday night.

1033
01:45:19.280 --> 01:45:22.129
Jean Moyer: No. When was that, John? Sunday night?

1034
01:45:23.030 --> 01:45:24.259
Jean Moyer: When did we meet?

1035
01:45:25.150 --> 01:45:26.190
John Compton: Yeah, Sunday.

1036
01:45:26.480 --> 01:45:29.920
Jean Moyer: So, I need to know if…

1037
01:45:30.770 --> 01:45:33.679
Jean Moyer: This is the way it should be.

1038
01:45:34.330 --> 01:45:35.650
John Compton: Let me explain it, then.

1039
01:45:35.650 --> 01:45:36.960
Jean Moyer: Yes, please.

1040
01:45:36.960 --> 01:45:42.580
John Compton: Alright, first of all, The tennis court maintenance, line 194.

1041
01:45:43.160 --> 01:45:50.830
John Compton: the… issue, as has been reported to the Council, is there are some significant cracks

1042
01:45:51.060 --> 01:45:56.190
John Compton: In the, tennis… in the hard tennis court, and there are a lot of…

1043
01:45:56.420 --> 01:46:01.639
John Compton: Hairline, or slightly more than hairline, cracks as well.

1044
01:46:02.040 --> 01:46:18.869
John Compton: We have talked about whether or not to expend funds to repair those cracks that can be… that are large, which is a more substantial repair, and we have an, we have an, these… we have one

1045
01:46:19.420 --> 01:46:23.659
John Compton: Proposal at roughly $25,000.

1046
01:46:23.770 --> 01:46:32.840
John Compton: to do the major cracks. I forget how many there are, how many feet it is. That doesn't, that doesn't particularly… that doesn't address the smaller cracks.

1047
01:46:33.720 --> 01:46:37.409
John Compton: And what we could do is just resurface the court.

1048
01:46:37.560 --> 01:46:41.279
John Compton: That will cover up all the smaller cracks, but they'll be back.

1049
01:46:41.520 --> 01:46:52.359
John Compton: So the question would be, how… if we… if we fix… if we did a serious repair on the major cracks, and a surface repair of all the other cracks.

1050
01:46:52.920 --> 01:46:55.660
John Compton: How long would that last before

1051
01:46:55.830 --> 01:47:00.799
John Compton: Further deterioration would… would require action.

1052
01:47:01.160 --> 01:47:05.050
John Compton: The estimate there might be $30,000 to do that work.

1053
01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:17.349
John Compton: to do the resurf… I don't know, whatever, 35, whatever it is, to resurface, to fix the cracks in a… in a comprehensive way, the big ones, and then resurface.

1054
01:47:17.660 --> 01:47:21.190
John Compton: The alternative… is to…

1055
01:47:21.830 --> 01:47:28.570
John Compton: agree that, oh, the tennis court, which is, as far as I can tell from everybody I've asked.

1056
01:47:28.900 --> 01:47:33.490
John Compton: the original… Installation.

1057
01:47:33.830 --> 01:47:40.830
John Compton: It has been resurfaced a number of times, but the tennis court has never been pulled up and replaced.

1058
01:47:42.350 --> 01:47:52.989
John Compton: So, the alternative is to say, okay, it's been a long time, we've had tree rooting, all those cracks are related to, we think, to tree roots, or if not tree roots, drainage.

1059
01:47:53.360 --> 01:47:59.049
John Compton: That, you know, maybe we should just pull up the existing court and lay down a new one.

1060
01:47:59.930 --> 01:48:09.189
John Compton: We have… we have two estimates to do that. One is more comprehensive at around $120,000, the other is, like, at $85,000.

1061
01:48:09.810 --> 01:48:16.569
John Compton: So, my proposal is to put into the budget $120,000 for next year.

1062
01:48:16.770 --> 01:48:29.089
John Compton: To be used either for doing the crack and resurfacing at $30,000, $35,000, Or the whole… Somali at $120,000.

1063
01:48:29.760 --> 01:48:39.760
John Compton: Putting it in the budget merely means it's available, we wouldn't have to do anything special like we had to do for the sprinkler system, which we had simply not provided for.

1064
01:48:40.270 --> 01:48:41.869
John Compton: So that's that item.

1065
01:48:43.470 --> 01:48:51.320
John Compton: the playground equipment. We've discussed that, and the… this… what this does is it…

1066
01:48:52.460 --> 01:49:00.220
John Compton: Provides for some expense this year, some expenditure, $35,000, which, as you heard.

1067
01:49:01.020 --> 01:49:07.370
John Compton: Could be resurfacing the basketball court and buying the one piece of equipment.

1068
01:49:08.030 --> 01:49:20.149
John Compton: And then, and that which would then be, we, we believe, could be reimbursed from the state grant. Or not, or it could be town funds.

1069
01:49:20.310 --> 01:49:23.140
John Compton: But in any event, I believe it would be reimbursed.

1070
01:49:23.370 --> 01:49:31.669
John Compton: But not until we put application in for that sometime later in fiscal 27. That's why the $35,000 sits there.

1071
01:49:32.180 --> 01:49:34.990
John Compton: But the rest of the grant…

1072
01:49:35.240 --> 01:49:46.399
John Compton: we would put into the fiscal 27 budget as the capital expense up here. That is $220,000. That allowed for $30,000.

1073
01:49:46.650 --> 01:49:51.980
John Compton: in the, in the, in this year.

1074
01:49:52.450 --> 01:50:01.469
John Compton: Alternatively, we can make this $250,000, which would account for having the entire grant

1075
01:50:01.890 --> 01:50:06.450
John Compton: unspent and available. Maybe we should make it $250 then.

1076
01:50:07.950 --> 01:50:11.630
John Compton: Remember, this is just a budgeting,

1077
01:50:12.240 --> 01:50:21.659
John Compton: decision, not an expense decision. The actual expense depends on where we are in plan, planning, and all that stuff.

1078
01:50:22.070 --> 01:50:27.409
John Compton: So, we just want to have it available in our budget.

1079
01:50:28.100 --> 01:50:29.699
John Compton: As a project.

1080
01:50:30.150 --> 01:50:32.499
John Compton: Yeah, so maybe make a 250.

1081
01:50:36.460 --> 01:50:43.340
John Compton: All right, that explains that. Meanwhile, the maintenance drops to $10,000, which is what is the amount to

1082
01:50:43.620 --> 01:50:47.839
John Compton: You know, do other work, around the playground.

1083
01:50:48.280 --> 01:50:49.849
John Compton: We've retained that $10,000.

1084
01:50:52.280 --> 01:50:53.809
John Compton: So, you can proceed.

1085
01:50:53.990 --> 01:50:58.309
Jean Moyer: Okay, so this number will change, then?

1086
01:50:58.310 --> 01:50:58.850
John Compton: Yeah.

1087
01:50:59.180 --> 01:51:01.840
Jean Moyer: And these… the rest of these will stay.

1088
01:51:02.820 --> 01:51:12.380
Jean Moyer: And that, John, other than what I changed with the, liability insurance, those are our changes.

1089
01:51:13.130 --> 01:51:14.980
John Compton: We upped the illegal, remember?

1090
01:51:15.690 --> 01:51:19.470
Jean Moyer: We… oh, yes, you did update…

1091
01:51:20.430 --> 01:51:24.350
Jean Moyer: legal had been, $10,000, I believe it was?

1092
01:51:24.350 --> 01:51:25.030
John Compton: Yeah.

1093
01:51:25.030 --> 01:51:27.710
Jean Moyer: And now we've made it 12.

1094
01:51:30.790 --> 01:51:32.229
Jean Moyer: So, those are the…

1095
01:51:32.230 --> 01:51:35.090
John Compton: I'm glad we hit this, this, this, this line item.

1096
01:51:35.470 --> 01:51:39.920
John Compton: This… the reason to raise it to 12…

1097
01:51:40.850 --> 01:51:49.489
John Compton: Is to account for two… two expenditures of legal, legal expenditures.

1098
01:51:49.830 --> 01:51:53.000
John Compton: Next year. One is the easement

1099
01:51:53.160 --> 01:51:57.319
John Compton: To the county to do the,

1100
01:51:57.640 --> 01:52:03.660
John Compton: the multi-user pathway on the end of Brown Street, so the part of the town that they're building

1101
01:52:03.960 --> 01:52:07.530
John Compton: The pathway, they need an easement to use the property.

1102
01:52:07.780 --> 01:52:11.790
John Compton: And to do that, Attorney will have to get involved.

1103
01:52:12.380 --> 01:52:20.640
John Compton: They don't seem to have a boilerplate easement, so she may have to do more work than one would expect to

1104
01:52:20.910 --> 01:52:29.650
John Compton: you know, finalize an easement with the county for that. The other part is that the discussion about

1105
01:52:30.280 --> 01:52:37.659
John Compton: Who's mining the store in town about meeting requirements and regulations?

1106
01:52:38.440 --> 01:52:46.809
John Compton: Part of my… suggestion to… Plug the hole that

1107
01:52:47.470 --> 01:52:54.580
John Compton: clearly that the SI… that the Summer in the Parks issue, Ray, pointed out, is to…

1108
01:52:55.200 --> 01:52:56.720
John Compton: Do several things.

1109
01:52:57.020 --> 01:53:04.269
John Compton: One is to have the treasurer be responsible for,

1110
01:53:05.140 --> 01:53:18.879
John Compton: compliance with the various things that she gets involved with. She's already doing that with insurance, but she would do that with, some personnel issues, because she's the de facto personnel

1111
01:53:19.180 --> 01:53:21.180
John Compton: Payroll officer.

1112
01:53:21.330 --> 01:53:35.270
John Compton: The other part of that, we could have our new town administrator do, but we don't have a town administrator yet, and we are not quite sure how soon they can be up to speed to do that additional

1113
01:53:35.450 --> 01:53:43.780
John Compton: Additional… have that additional responsibility. The third leg is to involve the town attorney.

1114
01:53:44.210 --> 01:53:46.930
John Compton: I had a discussion with Sue Ellen, and…

1115
01:53:47.040 --> 01:53:53.109
John Compton: We both felt that, Let me back up.

1116
01:53:53.470 --> 01:54:00.200
John Compton: She's the town attorney for a number of municipalities, so… Sorry.

1117
01:54:02.700 --> 01:54:09.229
John Compton: At least one of which, Kennington, I believe, I think two, She attends their council meetings.

1118
01:54:09.680 --> 01:54:12.829
John Compton: Now, both of those entities have commercial

1119
01:54:13.170 --> 01:54:18.650
John Compton: activity, and, and have more involved… Business in the town.

1120
01:54:18.890 --> 01:54:27.670
John Compton: So we discussed this, and I proposed that she get involved with reviewing

1121
01:54:27.780 --> 01:54:42.309
John Compton: town actions, but not by attending the meetings, but by, having the agendas, the minutes, and the actions of our… the council.

1122
01:54:42.730 --> 01:54:48.280
John Compton: the Planning Commission, the HPC, probably not the HPC, but the Planning Commission.

1123
01:54:48.450 --> 01:54:51.769
John Compton: And we would transmit those to her weekly.

1124
01:54:52.210 --> 01:54:57.669
John Compton: Or monthly, or whenever we have a new penance, or a new ordinance, or…

1125
01:54:57.820 --> 01:55:05.659
John Compton: you know, a proposal for an ordinance, whatever. And she would review them from the point of view of legality and

1126
01:55:05.790 --> 01:55:07.929
John Compton: Any other requirements?

1127
01:55:08.100 --> 01:55:09.050
John Compton: So…

1128
01:55:09.440 --> 01:55:18.820
John Compton: That's… that's the explanation. That will take hours of her time, and therefore a little cost, and that's why this number has gone up, further.

1129
01:55:18.990 --> 01:55:23.370
John Compton: To, provide funds for her time.

1130
01:55:23.930 --> 01:55:25.250
Peter Nagrod: You think that's enough?

1131
01:55:26.250 --> 01:55:27.830
John Compton: I have no idea.

1132
01:55:27.830 --> 01:55:28.700
Peter Nagrod: Yeah.

1133
01:55:29.050 --> 01:55:30.890
John Compton: I think it's enough.

1134
01:55:31.680 --> 01:55:36.389
John Compton: Usually, her time is very reasonable.

1135
01:55:36.570 --> 01:55:42.480
John Compton: Unless we are talking about creating documents Responding to requests.

1136
01:55:42.650 --> 01:55:53.269
John Compton: things like that. Then she spends more time, obviously. So I don't know, this could be $15,000. We don't have to spend it, we just need to have.

1137
01:55:53.270 --> 01:55:54.450
Peter Nagrod: Right, right.

1138
01:55:55.530 --> 01:55:57.730
John Compton: Alright, we can make it $15,000.

1139
01:55:57.730 --> 01:56:00.170
Peter Nagrod: Yeah, I'd like to see her more engaged.

1140
01:56:00.170 --> 01:56:00.720
John Compton: Yeah.

1141
01:56:06.370 --> 01:56:12.550
Jean Moyer: Alright, so these new changes will… I need to adjust the,

1142
01:56:12.910 --> 01:56:17.770
Jean Moyer: The figure that balances the budget, called the use of reserves.

1143
01:56:18.570 --> 01:56:27.180
Jean Moyer: And then filter these new numbers into the ordinance. Is their town business to be transacted now, while I go do that?

1144
01:56:27.890 --> 01:56:34.320
John Compton: Oh, that'd be great if you could come back with a bottom line for the… the…

1145
01:56:34.480 --> 01:56:36.910
John Compton: imbalance between revenues and…

1146
01:56:36.910 --> 01:56:41.229
Jean Moyer: I, I will, mute and go off-screen and…

1147
01:56:41.620 --> 01:56:42.230
John Compton: Okay.

1148
01:56:42.520 --> 01:56:46.070
Jean Moyer: Some numbers and… and let you know

1149
01:56:46.190 --> 01:56:48.280
Jean Moyer: When I have the ordinance updated.

1150
01:56:49.620 --> 01:56:54.349
John Compton: Okay, this is a council meeting. Any of the counselors have any further,

1151
01:56:55.770 --> 01:56:57.609
John Compton: We have suggestions for the budget.

1152
01:56:58.140 --> 01:56:58.950
Peter Nagrod: O.

1153
01:57:03.660 --> 01:57:15.739
John Compton: Right. Well, if no one does, then, we'll, we'll, we'll just sort of, I don't know what you call it, defer the, we'll come back to the budget before the meeting ends.

1154
01:57:16.340 --> 01:57:20.600
John Compton: Okay, next item. How are we doing? 927.

1155
01:57:21.080 --> 01:57:26.969
John Compton: All right, the next item is the resolution that was, introduced.

1156
01:57:27.170 --> 01:57:31.670
John Compton: At the last meeting, Resolution 202602,

1157
01:57:32.230 --> 01:57:38.399
John Compton: in support of the rights of all individuals in the United States, regardless of immigration status.

1158
01:57:39.040 --> 01:57:44.040
John Compton: Before I let Barbara take over here.

1159
01:57:44.140 --> 01:57:46.560
John Compton: Just to remind the Council.

1160
01:57:46.690 --> 01:57:52.570
John Compton: Barbara, proposed the resolution, introduced the resolution.

1161
01:57:52.760 --> 01:57:56.119
John Compton: And the vote was deferred to,

1162
01:57:56.480 --> 01:58:04.690
John Compton: pending, a subcommittee of the council, and, and, and town residents.

1163
01:58:04.860 --> 01:58:06.390
John Compton: to,

1164
01:58:07.020 --> 01:58:19.490
John Compton: look at whether it would, you know, resolve… well, to resolve some differences in opinion as to whether or not to include a few clauses, or not. And,

1165
01:58:19.650 --> 01:58:26.460
John Compton: So that group met, and… Has a… a…

1166
01:58:27.700 --> 01:58:31.560
John Compton: We call it an amended resolution to propose.

1167
01:58:33.440 --> 01:58:41.159
John Compton: Which needs to be proposed for, as an amendment to the one that was… is on the table.

1168
01:58:41.390 --> 01:58:43.070
John Compton: From… from last month.

1169
01:58:43.530 --> 01:58:50.440
John Compton: That was in your… In your, in the meeting materials.

1170
01:58:51.400 --> 01:59:02.359
John Compton: So, right now, we're on this resolution. The motion is to approve the resolution as introduced, so anyone speaking to the amendments needs to speak up.

1171
01:59:07.310 --> 01:59:15.780
John Porter: I, I, I think I… you asked me, I wanted to move to adopt the resolution as it was amended, most recently amended. Is that what we need to do?

1172
01:59:15.780 --> 01:59:20.130
John Compton: Do you need to propose the, amending the…

1173
01:59:20.130 --> 01:59:21.960
John Porter: Proclosure amending the resolution.

1174
01:59:21.960 --> 01:59:23.279
John Compton: Yes, with a…

1175
01:59:23.280 --> 01:59:24.879
John Porter: The most recent changes.

1176
01:59:24.880 --> 01:59:28.640
John Compton: I will… I can show that as needed. Do we have a second?

1177
01:59:29.000 --> 01:59:30.090
Peter Nagrod: I'll second it.

1178
01:59:30.950 --> 01:59:33.079
John Compton: Okay, we have a second, so…

1179
01:59:33.720 --> 01:59:39.490
John Compton: At this point, we should, look at…

1180
01:59:40.150 --> 01:59:42.449
John Compton: That. Where the heck is it?

1181
01:59:46.200 --> 01:59:50.700
John Compton: Why do things disappear on me? Oh, I know, it moved entirely. Here we go.

1182
01:59:51.930 --> 01:59:53.150
John Compton: Alrighty.

1183
01:59:56.930 --> 02:00:04.930
John Compton: The trouble is, this is not a, A marked up version.

1184
02:00:06.740 --> 02:00:09.240
John Compton: Maybe we can just briefly,

1185
02:00:10.530 --> 02:00:13.920
John Compton: Barbara, do you… you had a chance to read it, I assume.

1186
02:00:14.940 --> 02:00:21.459
Barbara: Right, but I was not in that meeting where it was amended, so I'm not really sure how well I can speak to that.

1187
02:00:22.270 --> 02:00:29.910
John Compton: Well, I guess I was asking, had you read it, and, you know, you were…

1188
02:00:30.380 --> 02:00:33.860
John Compton: You introduced the original resolution.

1189
02:00:34.190 --> 02:00:36.250
John Compton: So this one,

1190
02:00:36.470 --> 02:00:45.669
John Compton: basically is… is the introduced resolution. It includes, I think this is a new,

1191
02:00:46.850 --> 02:00:50.820
John Compton: The one additional, hereby?

1192
02:00:51.880 --> 02:01:03.710
John Compton: And it retains the, that it be transmitted to our… illustrious Fed, federal, representatives.

1193
02:01:04.700 --> 02:01:07.430
John Compton: And that, of course, it takes…

1194
02:01:08.030 --> 02:01:15.699
John Compton: place immediately. The rest of it is where there were some minor things, I think, that didn't change any of… anything in substance.

1195
02:01:16.480 --> 02:01:20.629
John Compton: is, if I recall, right, John?

1196
02:01:21.600 --> 02:01:24.409
John Porter: Pretty much. You did change the title.

1197
02:01:24.410 --> 02:01:25.360
John Compton: Yeah, the title.

1198
02:01:25.360 --> 02:01:28.199
John Porter: Tidal was, was, reduced quite a bit.

1199
02:01:29.020 --> 02:01:31.500
John Compton: Yeah, this one actually was Barbara's suggestion.

1200
02:01:31.500 --> 02:01:32.270
John Porter: Okay.

1201
02:01:33.140 --> 02:01:37.320
John Compton: Yeah, it substituted immigrate… resident for immigration status.

1202
02:01:37.880 --> 02:01:38.680
John Compton: Right.

1203
02:01:47.800 --> 02:01:53.609
John Compton: Okay, so anybody want to speak to the amendment? Because that's what's on the floor at the moment.

1204
02:01:57.200 --> 02:02:03.679
John Compton: Well, if there's no discussion, and with no idea how everybody's gonna vote, we can move to a vote.

1205
02:02:03.970 --> 02:02:09.989
John Compton: All in favor of the amendment, please raise your hand.

1206
02:02:11.680 --> 02:02:13.940
John Compton: Oh, great, so that's 5…

1207
02:02:13.940 --> 02:02:15.010
Robert Gilmore: says I.

1208
02:02:15.010 --> 02:02:18.120
John Compton: Okay, so the resolution has been amended.

1209
02:02:18.960 --> 02:02:22.749
John Compton: I assume since there were no comments on it, then we can move to a vote.

1210
02:02:23.060 --> 02:02:27.990
John Compton: All in favor of Resolution 2026-02, as amended?

1211
02:02:28.800 --> 02:02:30.170
Robert Gilmore: Rob, says I.

1212
02:02:30.390 --> 02:02:32.350
John Compton: Alright, that's unanimous.

1213
02:02:32.350 --> 02:02:32.930
Peter Nagrod: Okay.

1214
02:02:32.930 --> 02:02:41.259
John Compton: Okay, great, so we will be sure that it gets transmitted, and I think our… the… there was a suggestion

1215
02:02:41.440 --> 02:02:44.600
John Compton: Yeah, we also send it to our,

1216
02:02:45.260 --> 02:02:55.580
John Compton: other municipalities, as well, to indicate, you know, that at least Washington Grove is is, believes that,

1217
02:02:56.200 --> 02:03:01.630
John Compton: you know, something should be done about the situation. Not that we have any power to do it, but…

1218
02:03:01.800 --> 02:03:03.890
John Compton: Maybe influence the result.

1219
02:03:04.700 --> 02:03:06.140
John Compton: Thank you, all.

1220
02:03:06.730 --> 02:03:07.790
John Compton: For that.

1221
02:03:10.830 --> 02:03:13.609
John Compton: Alright, I'm sorry.

1222
02:03:27.650 --> 02:03:29.370
Peter Nagrod: You're muted again.

1223
02:03:30.160 --> 02:03:32.950
John Compton: Okay, I'm glad that's out of the way, and…

1224
02:03:33.420 --> 02:03:40.170
John Compton: The, the only item of new business is this, ordinance. I've mentioned a bunch of times.

1225
02:03:40.560 --> 02:03:47.289
John Compton: That would adopt the new budget and the tax rates. Gene, are you back?

1226
02:03:50.410 --> 02:03:52.690
Jean Moyer: I am still working on the numbers.

1227
02:03:53.170 --> 02:03:59.420
John Compton: All right, we'll jump over that and go to the Town Council. You don't have a lot of time, but it's okay.

1228
02:04:00.820 --> 02:04:06.109
John Compton: We'll move on to the, the town council reports. So,

1229
02:04:06.730 --> 02:04:14.519
John Compton: there was a little miscommunication between Kathy and me, so I apologize. The assembly of, Council Reports was…

1230
02:04:14.640 --> 02:04:21.359
John Compton: The formats are what everybody sent, so they're not consistent formats, but all the information is in the

1231
02:04:21.620 --> 02:04:25.499
John Compton: Town Council reports that's in the, in the folder.

1232
02:04:26.340 --> 02:04:34.950
John Compton: The few things of a note I pulled out, one was, from John, from the Woods Committee.

1233
02:04:35.150 --> 02:04:40.520
John Compton: The dedication plaque at the… at Maple Spring has been installed.

1234
02:04:40.950 --> 02:04:49.260
John Compton: And there's a few things remaining to do before the Maple Spring Restoration Project is complete.

1235
02:04:49.620 --> 02:04:52.419
John Porter: I think it's… I think it now is pretty much complete.

1236
02:04:52.420 --> 02:04:54.190
Patrice Klein: It's done, John.

1237
02:04:54.190 --> 02:04:55.460
John Compton: It's done.

1238
02:04:55.460 --> 02:04:59.280
Patrice Klein: Yeah, I was gonna show you a couple of photos if you want to see them.

1239
02:04:59.280 --> 02:05:02.250
John Compton: There were a few things they were supposed to do

1240
02:05:02.760 --> 02:05:11.649
John Compton: Including the path, the pathway, the trail, sorry, and whatever. Okay, great. So, are we going to have a little ceremony sometime, Patty?

1241
02:05:12.290 --> 02:05:26.589
Patrice Klein: Sure, we'll work it out. We finished all the spring itself. We're gonna do… try to do some cleanup on the trail, because there's a lot of downed wood since the wintertime, so we're gonna work on that, this month.

1242
02:05:26.590 --> 02:05:30.530
John Compton: Okay, well, you know, there's no rush, just… Yeah.

1243
02:05:30.530 --> 02:05:34.549
Patrice Klein: We all have something later in the season. Do you want to see a photo? I'll show you one.

1244
02:05:34.550 --> 02:05:35.940
John Compton: Oh, I… yeah.

1245
02:05:36.610 --> 02:05:39.620
John Compton: You can't show here if I don't… I just…

1246
02:05:39.700 --> 02:05:42.620
Patrice Klein: Yeah, make me, let me know, am I sharing?

1247
02:05:42.620 --> 02:05:44.070
John Compton: Have a host here.

1248
02:05:44.070 --> 02:05:44.770
Patrice Klein: Okay.

1249
02:05:45.020 --> 02:05:46.180
Patrice Klein: Give me our hand.

1250
02:05:49.970 --> 02:05:54.509
Patrice Klein: Can I share? Okay, there it is. Let me pull up… This one, that'll work.

1251
02:05:57.560 --> 02:05:59.840
Patrice Klein: Can you guys see that image? Yeah.

1252
02:05:59.840 --> 02:06:00.330
Peter Nagrod: Yeah.

1253
02:06:02.190 --> 02:06:03.800
Patrice Klein: It's beautiful, you guys have to…

1254
02:06:03.800 --> 02:06:05.110
Kathy Lehman: It's really cool!

1255
02:06:05.110 --> 02:06:09.059
Patrice Klein: Yeah, let me see if I can, bring that up a little bit bigger.

1256
02:06:09.060 --> 02:06:11.100
John Compton: It even has water in it, so…

1257
02:06:11.100 --> 02:06:13.990
Patrice Klein: It has water and… oh, I'm sorry, did I lose it?

1258
02:06:13.990 --> 02:06:15.219
John Compton: No, it's there.

1259
02:06:15.220 --> 02:06:18.689
Patrice Klein: It's still there? Okay, it's just not on my screen.

1260
02:06:19.000 --> 02:06:19.780
Peter Nagrod: call.

1261
02:06:19.780 --> 02:06:21.660
Patrice Klein: It's beautiful, yeah, let me pull it back up.

1262
02:06:21.660 --> 02:06:22.320
Peter Nagrod: it is.

1263
02:06:22.320 --> 02:06:24.190
Patrice Klein: Is that… is it still there? I can't…

1264
02:06:24.190 --> 02:06:24.510
Kathy Lehman: Yep.

1265
02:06:24.510 --> 02:06:25.170
Peter Nagrod: Yeah.

1266
02:06:25.520 --> 02:06:30.559
Patrice Klein: So, what's nice, though, is there's a lot of skunk cabbage. If you look towards the

1267
02:06:30.900 --> 02:06:32.490
Patrice Klein: The deep part of the…

1268
02:06:32.790 --> 02:06:44.720
Patrice Klein: the image of the photo towards the lake fence, there's a huge pile, growth of skunk cabbage, and it's even popping up closer to the spring itself. That area does grow a lot of skunk cabbage.

1269
02:06:45.230 --> 02:06:47.920
Patrice Klein: And let me see if there's one other photo, if I can…

1270
02:06:48.120 --> 02:06:52.320
Patrice Klein: find it. Here it is. Let me see if this is it.

1271
02:06:53.380 --> 02:06:58.499
Patrice Klein: Okay. Can you see the… do you see the photo with the skunk cabbage? Yeah. Okay.

1272
02:06:58.520 --> 02:07:18.560
Patrice Klein: So all of that is growing into that area that we had needed to clean out to allow for the work to happen. So that's what's happening there. And actually, Joan's family, some of her family came out this past weekend. It was actually the one-year anniversary of her passing recently, and so I showed the spring.

1273
02:07:18.560 --> 02:07:21.339
Patrice Klein: to her daughter, Carol, and some of,

1274
02:07:21.460 --> 02:07:25.769
Patrice Klein: her grandkids. So they came out for just a quick visit.

1275
02:07:26.680 --> 02:07:27.640
Kathy Lehman: Nice.

1276
02:07:27.640 --> 02:07:35.609
Patrice Klein: Anyway, if you have time, please, you know, come visit the spring. It's beautiful, and Jim and his crew did a great job.

1277
02:07:35.610 --> 02:07:36.550
Peter Nagrod: Yeah. Yeah.

1278
02:07:36.780 --> 02:07:49.850
Patrice Klein: it's both with Steve, but mostly with Jim and his crew, so they just did a wonderful job. I was gonna actually ask if I'll work with you, John, afterwards, to see if we can maybe put together a,

1279
02:07:50.240 --> 02:07:58.640
Patrice Klein: certificate of appreciation or something for Jim and his crew. That's the dedication plaque that's at the spring as well.

1280
02:07:58.640 --> 02:07:59.260
John Compton: Right.

1281
02:07:59.460 --> 02:07:59.920
Patrice Klein: Okay.

1282
02:07:59.920 --> 02:08:00.840
Peter Nagrod: That's fantastic.

1283
02:08:00.840 --> 02:08:03.589
Patrice Klein: I'll let you move on to your meeting, I just wanted to share the…

1284
02:08:03.590 --> 02:08:04.869
Peter Nagrod: Patty, that's fantastic.

1285
02:08:04.870 --> 02:08:05.690
John Compton: Okay.

1286
02:08:05.690 --> 02:08:08.859
Patrice Klein: Please go visit, it's beautiful out there. Okay, thanks.

1287
02:08:11.110 --> 02:08:23.480
John Compton: Okay, the next note from the Council Reports concerns the emergency preparedness and safety Bizarre.

1288
02:08:24.310 --> 02:08:26.610
John Compton: Which is Chris.

1289
02:08:27.650 --> 02:08:32.419
John Compton: And he reports, he reported that,

1290
02:08:32.830 --> 02:08:42.540
John Compton: that, and it may have been mentioned at the last meeting, that Officer Melanie Romano of the Police Department has agreed to,

1291
02:08:42.760 --> 02:08:56.039
John Compton: do a, a Zoom, discussion with Grove residents concer… Sorry. Concerning their safety concerns.

1292
02:08:56.940 --> 02:08:59.339
John Compton: And Chris will be scheduling that.

1293
02:08:59.740 --> 02:09:02.700
John Compton: We could aim for…

1294
02:09:04.020 --> 02:09:14.649
John Compton: as early as June, maybe, Chris? You know, I don't… or, or, you know, we can't… it may be on a non-council night, although it usually is better to

1295
02:09:15.190 --> 02:09:22.080
John Compton: If we can work it on a council night, or some other time. So he's… he's going to work with Melanie, Romano.

1296
02:09:22.390 --> 02:09:29.579
John Compton: on that, and I… I hope, we'll try and put that announcement in the next bulletin. Chris, let's try and remember to do that.

1297
02:09:30.040 --> 02:09:33.580
John Compton: Not… even if it's not scheduled, that it will be, so…

1298
02:09:33.580 --> 02:09:34.080
Peter Nagrod: -

1299
02:09:34.080 --> 02:09:39.420
John Compton: Residents will… You know, take note that this is their chance to

1300
02:09:39.850 --> 02:09:43.089
John Compton: Directly interact with the police on… on issues.

1301
02:09:43.590 --> 02:09:44.049
Kriss Grisham: I'm kidding.

1302
02:09:45.720 --> 02:09:52.260
John Compton: All right, last item is in the recreation… from the Recreation Committee about the three new signed kiosks.

1303
02:09:52.670 --> 02:09:56.819
John Compton: Which are soon to be installed.

1304
02:09:57.320 --> 02:10:03.290
John Compton: At the intersections of Grove and Brown, Macaulay and Chestnut, and Brown and Ridge.

1305
02:10:04.560 --> 02:10:09.549
John Compton: So, they'll be popping up, just like mushrooms.

1306
02:10:12.090 --> 02:10:19.490
John Compton: And that's all I picked out. Anybody with anything else from the Council report that they feel should be mentioned? Now's your chance.

1307
02:10:22.430 --> 02:10:27.680
John Compton: Nobody? Okay, then we'll move back to Jean. She looks like she might be ready.

1308
02:10:28.180 --> 02:10:39.049
Jean Moyer: So, A hiccup in the playground equipment, putting all of the grant in proposed fiscal 27.

1309
02:10:40.270 --> 02:10:51.439
Jean Moyer: The way this was oriented, the 30,000 that was the asphalt for June of 26,

1310
02:10:51.970 --> 02:10:59.080
Jean Moyer: We've… was considered to be in the grant, so now we have 280 sitting in the grant.

1311
02:10:59.520 --> 02:11:03.910
Jean Moyer: And it is… You know, how we have the…

1312
02:11:04.690 --> 02:11:14.940
Jean Moyer: place where we say, this is the town stuff, and we add in or detract the stuff that's grant money.

1313
02:11:15.590 --> 02:11:18.420
Jean Moyer: I need to fix that, but I need…

1314
02:11:18.420 --> 02:11:23.360
John Compton: That line item… wait a second, that line item that now has 250,000…

1315
02:11:23.790 --> 02:11:31.170
John Compton: isn't state grant expenditure, it's an expenditure of $250,000. The source of that.

1316
02:11:31.170 --> 02:11:31.840
Jean Moyer: Yes.

1317
02:11:31.840 --> 02:11:32.790
John Compton: is elsewhere.

1318
02:11:32.790 --> 02:11:40.189
Jean Moyer: Yes, and the way we calculate by… we say how much Will be reimbursed.

1319
02:11:41.500 --> 02:11:49.570
Jean Moyer: By putting the full grant in fiscal 27, we… before, we had 220, we had 30.

1320
02:11:49.930 --> 02:11:52.010
Jean Moyer: In fiscal 26,

1321
02:11:52.990 --> 02:12:02.449
Jean Moyer: For me to fix this formula, are we now saying that the $30,000 in fiscal 26 is town money?

1322
02:12:08.650 --> 02:12:12.029
John Compton: No. We're sending… we're saying it might be the grant.

1323
02:12:12.480 --> 02:12:16.109
John Compton: But if it isn't the grant, then it will be the town money.

1324
02:12:16.110 --> 02:12:16.680
Jean Moyer: Yes.

1325
02:12:18.570 --> 02:12:25.340
Jean Moyer: Okay, the way you set up the formulas for the format, are complicated, John.

1326
02:12:25.340 --> 02:12:26.410
John Compton: I know it's complicated.

1327
02:12:26.410 --> 02:12:27.460
Jean Moyer: And I cannot…

1328
02:12:27.470 --> 02:12:34.600
John Compton: I'm not the treasurer, I'm only saying we'll spend it if we can, and if we don't, we'll spend it next year.

1329
02:12:35.120 --> 02:12:42.189
Jean Moyer: The line item where we say that we are backing out

1330
02:12:43.010 --> 02:12:48.489
Jean Moyer: Of total expenses, how much is being… going to be reimbursed by the grant?

1331
02:12:51.390 --> 02:12:53.950
Jean Moyer: The last time you and I worked on this.

1332
02:12:53.950 --> 02:12:54.550
John Compton: Okay.

1333
02:12:54.550 --> 02:13:05.759
Jean Moyer: $30,000 of the grant was in one column, the rest 220 was in the other. I need to know now, am I taking that $30,000 grant out of fiscal 26?

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John Compton: in the budget.

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John Compton: We didn't have a grant.

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John Compton: to allocate that expense.

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Jean Moyer: We said…

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John Compton: So we are paying in the budget that we're going to spend the money.

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John Compton: In the accounting for the grant, on the other hand, which we still don't have, but we expect to.

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John Compton: We will account for the spending of the grant, Based on…

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John Compton: Whenever it's spent, whether it is spent

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John Compton: June, you know, 5th, or not until July.

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John Compton: So I'm not sure I see the problem.

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Jean Moyer: Well, the formulas need to know whether it goes in the grant reimbursement line or not.

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John Compton: I think you have to leave it out of the grant reimbursement line.

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John Compton: Because we have… we are…

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John Compton: We haven't confirmed that we can get reimbursement of it, because we don't have the grant yet.

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Jean Moyer: Right, but, but, but, the last time we edited this, you said $30,000 would be spent in fiscal 26 that would be grant money.

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John Compton: Okay, how about when we reconcile the budget? We have a reconciling Resolution, correct?

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John Compton: Or ordinance, or whatever it is.

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John Compton: And that we do in July, right? Or June? July.

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Jean Moyer: Well, we… the ordinance… I mean, if the town approves the budget as put into the ordinance.

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Jean Moyer: then we just adopt it, approve it. If the…

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John Compton: But when is the.

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Jean Moyer: Same eating.

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John Compton: Yes, but when is the reconcili… I'm talking about the reconciling. Remember, we overspent category X, and we moved funds from category Y

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John Compton: You'll recall.

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Jean Moyer: So that thing, we do that in June.

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John Compton: What happened we do in June? We don't know what the bottom line is.

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Jean Moyer: Because I have to forecast it, because we have to get it done in June.

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John Compton: Okay, so in June, we will know better.

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John Compton: Whether we are getting funds from the grant or not.

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John Compton: And we can make that adjustment in June.

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John Compton: I don't know, I mean, I'm proposing maybe that will work. So what we do is we leave it as a town expense.

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John Compton: Okay? And we will change it to a grant expense when we get the grant.

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John Compton: Maybe.

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Jean Moyer: Okay.

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John Compton: Sorry, guys, this is really just an actuarial, I mean, an auditor… Year-end reconciliation issue.

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John Compton: Where do you… How do the funds…

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John Compton: what is the, balances of the funds when you're through with the fiscal year? And it needs to…

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John Compton: Coincide with our budget, so…

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Jean Moyer: Can I share again?

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John Compton: webpage.

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Jean Moyer: The issue is here.

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Jean Moyer: Here, where we do the roll-up, This line here?

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John Compton: Yeah.

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Jean Moyer: This is what I need to know.

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Jean Moyer: It was originally expected That we would get…

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Jean Moyer: Whether it was asphalt, trains, whichever.

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Jean Moyer: That would be, in this fiscal year, And…

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Jean Moyer: It would be reimbursed through the grant.

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Jean Moyer: I need to know if this number's still there.

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John Compton: And for this purpose, we should… wouldn't it make sense to change the 250 to $220?

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Jean Moyer: Well, you're the one who changed it to $2.50 tonight.

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John Compton: Well, we… can't we leave the $250 down there also? And make it $250 down there, and $2.20 up here?

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Jean Moyer: No, this is a roll-up, John, and I have to get the roll-up to balance to the detail.

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John Compton: Right.

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Jean Moyer: And at the moment, this $30,000 is bollocksing that up.

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Jean Moyer: And I don't like doing numbers quickly.

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Jean Moyer: But as it stands, the way this looks, we're saying, More than the grant money.

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John Compton: We're budgeting more than the grant money, that's correct.

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Jean Moyer: This, John, it says expenses expected to be reimbursed by the grant.

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Jean Moyer: When you change that to $2.50, you now are saying a total of…

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John Compton: Then you take the 30 out of 26.

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Jean Moyer: That's all I want to know.

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Jean Moyer: So, having that 30 in the budget, we are now converting it to town money.

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John Compton: Well, yes, I'm betting that we can convert it back to grant funding.

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Peter Nagrod: Correct.

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Jean Moyer: But I just need to know what line this goes.

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John Compton: Yeah, okay, so take it out here, because you need to make everything add up.

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Jean Moyer: I'm going to stop share and go back to this fixing. Thank you.

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John Compton: Alright.

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Jean Moyer: Guys, for that little… Tyrade?

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John Compton: So, you're not ready to just show the bottom line of the reserves?

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John Compton: Needed to balance the budget.

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Jean Moyer: I believe… If I take 30…

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Jean Moyer: Out of this, it's about 210.

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Jean Moyer: $210,000 is use of reserves for fiscal 27.

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John Compton: Okay.

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Jean Moyer: Thank you.

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John Compton: All right, so the Council heard that. So we're approving… we have… we need to approve

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John Compton: But this budget for the annual meeting.

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John Compton: Gene is saying that the, all the numbers being what they are, the use of town reserves to balance the budget is a little over $200,000.

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John Compton: The tax rate is what we've seen all along, we didn't change any of that.

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John Compton: So we're voting on those tax rates, that's for the business and for the property. We're voting on the

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John Compton: On the, dwelling… the dwelling tax?

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John Compton: And, and the… Allocation of the budget among the line items that you saw.

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John Compton: So I need a motion to approve.

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John Compton: This budget for… Presentation of the town meeting.

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Peter Nagrod: Motion to approve presentation, to approve this budget for presentation for the town meeting.

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John Porter: This is John.

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John Compton: Do we have any further questions?

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John Compton: All in favor?

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John Compton: Thank you, guys. We will distribute what the final numbers look like.

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John Compton: which, and I will be… I will have to put out a

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John Compton: Grove Alert, to be… which we use as the…

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John Compton: Publicizing the budget 10 days before the 10 business days before the

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John Compton: in the town meeting, so that has to be done at the… before the end of April.

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John Compton: And then, of course, it'll be in the bud… in the… in the bulletin.

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John Compton: as well.

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John Compton: Okie dokie. Great.

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John Compton: Well… We're now on to next meetings, the hybrid.

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John Compton: I hope to be around for the, hybrid annual town meeting, at 2 o'clock on Saturday, May 9th.

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John Compton: Which I… we expect will be in the hall.

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John Compton: Once we have an occupancy permit?

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John Compton: And then we're having a meeting, we've agreed to have a regular council meeting on May 18th.

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John Compton: Just filling that in.

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John Compton: Into my, into my copy of the, oh, God.

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John Compton: Agenda.

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John Compton: And that's it.

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John Compton: I'll entertain a motion to adherend.

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John Compton: All right, guys, thanks so much, and all of you who have hung in here for this meeting.

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John Compton: You know, it's, as they say, legislation… creating legislative votes is an ugly process sometimes.

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John Compton: But, I think this went reasonably well tonight.

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Peter Nagrod: Yeah.

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John Porter: Rude.

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Kathy Lehman: Thank you, John.

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Peter Nagrod: Good night, everybody.

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John Porter: It's gone.

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John Compton: Alrighty.

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John Compton: Hi.

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02:22:37.990 --> 02:22:39.899
Kathy Lehman: Get that cough taken care of.

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02:22:40.560 --> 02:22:44.619
John Compton: Sorry? Yeah, no, it's actually better, it's only because I've been talking.

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Kathy Lehman: What, did you go to the doctor?

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John Compton: Yes, I did.

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02:22:47.050 --> 02:22:48.839
Kathy Lehman: Oh, good boy!

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02:22:48.840 --> 02:22:50.849
John Compton: And the antibiotic, for all the good assurance.

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Kathy Lehman: Oh my god, no.

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02:22:52.940 --> 02:22:56.239
John Compton: And as I've been telling everybody, it only hurts when I breathe.

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Kathy Lehman: Yeah, Jesus.

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John Compton: So, yeah.

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Kathy Lehman: Time for some cognac.

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John Compton: That's where I'm going right now.

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Kathy Lehman: Yes, buddy.