568 01:05:35.200 --> 01:05:43.689 John Compton: What did she say about us going forward with it, with the liability issue? You were asking about someone far as coming… No, I would… I wanted to know that… 569 01:05:43.690 --> 01:05:56.559 John Compton: if we should look back at other… I said, the medical practitioner, the healthcare practitioner's liability. Is that the only thing holding up to some of the program? It's… 570 01:05:56.620 --> 01:06:01.320 John Compton: Yes, I mean, it's… Yes, we're required to have a 571 01:06:01.870 --> 01:06:04.900 John Compton: health, professional, Bernie, on call. 572 01:06:05.440 --> 01:06:07.959 John Compton: During the day camp. 573 01:06:08.240 --> 01:06:08.960 John Compton: Irish. 574 01:06:09.540 --> 01:06:16.549 John Compton: And the issue was, well, you know, what about, you know, would anybody feel comfortable? 575 01:06:16.930 --> 01:06:27.370 John Compton: Not having malpractice insurance during that period. And the latest finding, the late… I urge… Even… 576 01:06:27.780 --> 01:06:32.400 John Compton: Lord, to ask around, there's a lot of day youth plans. 577 01:06:33.240 --> 01:06:36.919 John Compton: churches have been… All kinds of organizations have them. 578 01:06:37.170 --> 01:06:38.780 John Compton: And what do they do? 579 01:06:39.120 --> 01:06:48.869 John Compton: Well, it turns out, going out and buying malpractice, you can't just go out and buy malpractice insurance. You know, that's a little bit of a complicated thing. 580 01:06:49.360 --> 01:06:52.440 John Compton: Health professionals can come with their own. 581 01:06:52.900 --> 01:06:59.659 John Compton: practice, if it happens to cover their independent activities, or maybe they pay up surcharge, I don't know. 582 01:06:59.910 --> 01:07:07.790 John Compton: But the current… the last thing I read, you read it, was… did you read it? Now, maybe it's only me, and, and, 583 01:07:08.430 --> 01:07:11.020 John Compton: that, good. 584 01:07:12.840 --> 01:07:16.490 John Compton: the… exposure. 585 01:07:16.860 --> 01:07:18.950 John Compton: of… health professional. 586 01:07:20.450 --> 01:07:24.749 John Compton: Providing the kind of health advice to a youth camp. 587 01:07:25.900 --> 01:07:29.069 John Compton: A day at youth camp is extremely low. 588 01:07:30.450 --> 01:07:35.679 John Compton: And so many, many of the… at least one of the camps are… 589 01:07:36.720 --> 01:07:38.459 John Compton: I may have been more than one. 590 01:07:38.610 --> 01:07:44.240 John Compton: So that the people who they have don't feel that they're at risk. 591 01:07:44.380 --> 01:07:52.440 John Compton: Or malpractice. I mean, malpractice covers, you know, it's for covering baby. It's like, you know, it's like your umbrella, it's like your, 592 01:07:52.890 --> 01:07:57.689 John Compton: Hospital insurance. Big expense, not the little expenses. 593 01:07:57.800 --> 01:07:58.630 John Compton: So… 594 01:07:58.680 --> 01:08:16.840 John Compton: That's the way it's… I don't know whether we'll find someone who will feel that way. Eva got back to me. No, she's going to, though. Because you are the best candidate. Well, because you know what goes on. Yeah, yeah, you're very close to the activity. Yeah, I wouldn't know what… 595 01:08:16.840 --> 01:08:27.369 John Compton: we needed to do, and then… Yeah, they've had to write medical procedures, maybe a little laugh at everybody's calls sometimes, which they've written. 596 01:08:27.460 --> 01:08:28.620 John Compton: Yeah. 597 01:08:28.750 --> 01:08:39.599 John Compton: So what will happen if you do this and that, and, you know, if the parent wants… if you're supposed to have a… you got the kid supposed to use an inhaler or whatever, you know, they have to… 598 01:08:40.359 --> 01:08:46.049 John Compton: Right now, Willie's, you know. My child knows when to use that inhaler. 599 01:08:46.930 --> 01:08:50.309 John Compton: Things like that. I think it covers the damage. 600 01:08:50.680 --> 01:08:53.539 John Compton: Okay. Yes, and you should definitely look at it. 601 01:08:53.930 --> 01:09:00.200 John Compton: I have a malpractor's policy for $100 a year that covers me as the physician when he sent us by. 602 01:09:00.490 --> 01:09:06.810 John Compton: Oh, yeah? Because I don't get paid on it. It's a non-paid position sometimes. It does. 603 01:09:07.080 --> 01:09:14.850 John Compton: Net neutral. Really? Just $100 a year, and I'm covered with all these run-ins. We can afford that, alright? We can probably afford that. 604 01:09:15.300 --> 01:09:20.570 John Compton: But I don't like the Maryland, I should put in volunteer position. 605 01:09:21.319 --> 01:09:22.310 John Compton: Okay. 606 01:09:22.580 --> 01:09:24.069 John Compton: I wouldn't think I very care. 607 01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:36.060 John Compton: I've communicated with Patty about her concern about this liability again. 608 01:09:36.330 --> 01:09:42.840 John Compton: Yeah. Do you want to give her a brief overview? Do you want me to? 609 01:09:42.899 --> 01:09:46.770 John Compton: Helps us, helps us, raise your accountability. 610 01:09:46.770 --> 01:10:11.639 John Compton: What we ought to have, which is so accurate, you know, this won't be the last time this volunteer… Oh, it's really going from 6 to 90. 611 01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:19.580 John Compton: We can ask her about, like, everybody put this in my house left. 612 01:10:19.580 --> 01:10:38.889 John Compton: Oh, really? Yeah. I think volunteering was a task. I think that's great for all the committee chairs to have. Basically, how to proceed. I think, I think Patty, in the meeting where this came up. 613 01:10:38.890 --> 01:10:54.279 John Compton: with it correctly, but the person in question was asked about wanting to do stuff. A repeat of last year, almost. I made a huge league player. 614 01:10:54.280 --> 01:11:16.979 John Compton: If you want to do anything in non-property, you need permission. Oh, it may have been there. It was… it was a very, very weird… Let me tell her. Let me just prove that. It was not clear exactly what he was asking. 615 01:11:16.980 --> 01:11:25.219 John Compton: In my mind, it sounded to me like he was letting me know that he might… that he wanted to do this stuff. 616 01:11:25.380 --> 01:11:40.349 John Compton: And basically giving us credentials, and then I know what I'm talking about, and I should be able to go out and do this stuff when I see it. I think Heidi pushed back, and he said, well, if you want to do this stuff, you need to be a part of the community and permission to do this thing. 617 01:11:40.810 --> 01:11:49.020 John Compton: That's part of the commitment. Look, Terry Arnold is doing the sign and the scroll work and whatever for the Anne's Folly. 618 01:11:49.430 --> 01:11:54.650 John Compton: Okay? Well, he's volunteering his time. His… Dangerous. 619 01:11:55.030 --> 01:11:56.720 John Compton: woodworking equipment. 620 01:11:57.210 --> 01:12:05.870 John Compton: Okay, and so he volunteered to do that, and the group was doing it, said, great, you… yes, you're gonna do that for the town? 621 01:12:06.170 --> 01:12:11.750 John Compton: You're willing to do it for the time? Go ahead. Right. So, Terry is obviously incurring his own risks. 622 01:12:12.160 --> 01:12:15.990 John Compton: In his own… Garage with his own equipment. 623 01:12:16.180 --> 01:12:21.400 John Compton: to do something for the town. We don't have a contract with them, you know, there's no… 624 01:12:21.580 --> 01:12:32.019 John Compton: I'm sure he doesn't carry any insurance for doing this, but that's the kind of thing that does all the time. Right, right. Yeah, but you don't just go out and… 625 01:12:32.640 --> 01:12:39.680 John Compton: You know, I don't like that rock, so I'm going to, you know, I'm going to take a slave… Gotta go over to the science side. 626 01:12:39.820 --> 01:12:46.170 John Compton: I'm gonna change you today without telling anybody no. Was his understanding pretty good not to go do? 627 01:12:46.390 --> 01:13:01.499 John Compton: I'm sorry I said that? Was his understanding pretty good not to go do it on his own? We're supposed to get back to him, I think. Yeah, I think so. I think we're supposed to… we are supposed to get back. Can I… let me give you one other caveat, and I think it's real urgent that we deal with this. That was when I… 628 01:13:01.500 --> 01:13:07.059 John Compton: discussed this with people. They said, the danger's not cutting down a tree, the danger is burning down forest. 629 01:13:07.150 --> 01:13:15.520 John Compton: Yeah, yeah. And, and, because there are some other factors involved. Yeah. 630 01:13:16.060 --> 01:13:19.259 John Compton: It's probably saying that if you want something 631 01:13:19.680 --> 01:13:22.819 John Compton: You know, something done in the woods. 632 01:13:22.940 --> 01:13:29.779 John Compton: that I have skill at doing. I will volunteer to do it. It's like having Steve Wertz. 633 01:13:29.940 --> 01:13:31.340 John Compton: Help you out. 634 01:13:31.670 --> 01:13:47.570 John Compton: doing a, the culvert, right. Yeah, the culverts instead of, instead of bridges, right? He knows how to do that. Right. So he's volunteering his time, and, you know, and we approached, said, great, we want one over there, and yeah, we'll do it this, we'll… 635 01:13:47.660 --> 01:13:48.510 John Compton: Right. 636 01:13:48.570 --> 01:14:04.470 John Compton: Yeah, that's what this guy has really just didn't know how to ask about it. He didn't know how to ask for it. That's very… you have years of experience with Steve Wertz, and you have zero experience with this guy. True. Yeah. I don't think it's… it's a matter of… 637 01:14:04.470 --> 01:14:13.859 John Compton: I think it was a… some… part of it was… I think he was having a hard time figuring out how to ask to do this stuff, and Patty, to some extent, was having a hard time. 638 01:14:13.930 --> 01:14:33.589 John Compton: how to direct him. Explaining. Explaining. So, I think Cody's initial response was, well, what's our liability if you do this, and what… and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, well, that's… well, it was the first one. This is something we really want done. Right. And if it is, then of course we think, well, how dangerous is it to do? 639 01:14:34.110 --> 01:14:44.700 John Compton: two properties seem to take personal demographics. But this guy is using diabetes. 640 01:14:45.280 --> 01:15:01.439 John Compton: Mike Voigt? I'm making up the most unique character in town. I actually know the Deniso name. Oh, Ed, yeah, Adam Ed. Yeah. Oh, Adam, oh, yeah. Yes. 641 01:15:02.110 --> 01:15:10.420 John Compton: How did… at what point did you say that? Every time I walk… every time I run into him, he tells me all of the things he's so good at. 642 01:15:10.850 --> 01:15:27.650 John Compton: Oh, really? So it's not that, you know, the thing is, is he's told me stories, told my daughter a lot of stories about what he's done, you know, and he's very capable from the stories he's telling us, but we've never seen it in action, and that's exactly… We should talk to Laurel. You know. 643 01:15:27.890 --> 01:15:38.590 John Compton: But, were you doing that meeting? I was in the, I was in the candidate forum, where you brought that up. Oh, okay. And so… 644 01:15:38.590 --> 01:15:55.430 John Compton: It was the Woods Committee meeting after the candidate forum, where he showed up and talked to the committee. Yeah, yeah, that's where I got that. Right. I need a safety policy. I'd have forgotten that she reached out to you. Yeah. But, yeah. 645 01:15:55.430 --> 01:16:04.170 John Compton: But he's a very interesting character, I'll tell you. He's… I'm getting out just in time. 646 01:16:04.450 --> 01:16:18.429 John Compton: My aunt Ruth said that's it once she said to my… she said, she was 93 or something. She said, I'm getting out just in time! Had a lot to do with Trump. Oh, oh my gosh. 647 01:16:18.910 --> 01:16:19.620 John Compton: Yeah. 648 01:16:21.010 --> 01:16:28.240 John Compton: So, gentlemen, we're still looking for the remote for this thing, right? Yeah. Let me, let me talk to… so… so, Steve and they… 649 01:16:28.350 --> 01:16:37.899 John Compton: you know, help move it back from up there. I don't know who… okay, so could that have been accidentally packed up with the Montgomery County folks? 650 01:16:38.390 --> 01:16:51.539 John Compton: the remote and some of the equipment, would they use? They didn't use it. They didn't use it. I don't think they would have taken it. I mean, it's like it ought to be sitting on the shelf. Maybe they… maybe somebody taped it. 651 01:16:51.550 --> 01:17:01.240 John Compton: I looked in the back, I thought maybe… Or maybe underneath? That would make sense. Underneath the shelf, maybe? Yeah. It's a remote, you know, you would like to keep it… 652 01:17:03.630 --> 01:17:09.530 John Compton: With the, yeah, Dane was busy safekeeping all the notes. Maybe it's in that door with the remote. 653 01:17:09.870 --> 01:17:13.440 John Compton: No, there's, there's a fan of mine. 654 01:17:14.200 --> 01:17:18.690 John Compton: We're thinking about stealing a couple of those remotes. We could, we could, 655 01:17:19.470 --> 01:17:23.460 John Compton: They actually messed up and thought, oh, it's translated. 656 01:17:23.790 --> 01:17:33.339 John Compton: Yeah, you know, I… I have a nagging suspicion I… God was thrown away, but those things that, 657 01:17:33.920 --> 01:17:37.490 John Compton: Separating. Once they're separated, you're in trouble. 658 01:17:37.890 --> 01:17:39.509 John Compton: And it's an LG. 659 01:17:40.620 --> 01:17:47.180 John Compton: We gotta be able to get a replacement, don't you? I'm sure you get a replacement, we shouldn't have to. No, we shouldn't, but we might have to. 660 01:17:47.700 --> 01:17:50.130 John Compton: But somebody got excited, went home with it. 661 01:17:51.160 --> 01:18:07.310 John Compton: Yeah, I'm surprised that it wasn't in the box. No, we did. Because, you know, what I remember bringing… helping bring down was everything that's stored on top, the computer, the computer box, and the plastic box. Well, that's where it would have been. It should have been with us. 662 01:18:09.180 --> 01:18:15.629 John Compton: That's how we rolled that thing down. Man, I don't know where all that stuff came from, Kathy, all that you're looking at? 663 01:18:16.330 --> 01:18:19.780 John Compton: I got a bunch of mice here. Oh, that's not funny. 664 01:18:21.200 --> 01:18:26.550 John Compton: Yeah, I kind of hoped it was in here, too, but I don't see it. 665 01:18:28.770 --> 01:18:33.819 John Compton: Somebody will bring it and say. 666 01:18:35.980 --> 01:18:38.590 John Compton: Well, what is this, NV? 667 01:18:39.350 --> 01:18:42.009 John Compton: A shran? Yeah. 668 01:18:44.460 --> 01:18:50.759 John Compton: It's nice and chilly. It is nice and chilly. 669 01:18:52.680 --> 01:18:54.990 John Compton: We can get you a wheelchair, obviously. 670 01:18:59.190 --> 01:19:00.020 John Compton: Should've been… 671 01:19:01.340 --> 01:19:14.630 John Compton: The volunteer needs to be associated, not to the town. No, I'm saying the volunteer needs to be acting under the oversight of… 672 01:19:15.030 --> 01:19:19.709 John Compton: A committee, or the town official, or directly to the town government, or something like that? 673 01:19:21.060 --> 01:19:28.280 John Compton: The volunteer just can't be out there operating on their own. They need to… 674 01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:31.150 John Compton: I would say auspices, but, you know… 675 01:19:31.490 --> 01:19:49.709 John Compton: Not just in the interest of… because that's… That's the end of the oversight of the oversight. So the committee or the town government, right? It could be in a committee, it could be an employee, it could be, you know, of somebody associated with the county. 676 01:19:49.710 --> 01:19:55.280 John Compton: Yeah, okay, okay, so… She's after the first time of the week. 677 01:19:56.680 --> 01:20:00.810 John Compton: Didn't make a noise. If you're a resident, you're associating them, watch… 678 01:20:01.010 --> 01:20:05.239 John Compton: I'm telling you, watch this guy. Adam, he's… 679 01:20:07.260 --> 01:20:11.400 John Compton: His heart's in the right place. Absolutely. Absolutely. 680 01:20:11.540 --> 01:20:27.580 John Compton: Hi, how are you? I'm good, okay. I was going to write a sister recipe. Well, you could do that, too. What's that? What's the name? Her name? I'm also a gentleman. I actually put the name in. 681 01:20:27.930 --> 01:20:37.739 John Compton: Finally. You can just nail John, somebody might. That's great. 682 01:20:38.010 --> 01:20:47.710 John Compton: And your name is? Anna. Anna! Yes. It's nice to meet you. Nice to meet you as well. No gear just up on, 201 Washington Grove. 683 01:20:47.870 --> 01:20:51.490 John Compton: Oh! Up on the front end. Next to Barrel on front. 684 01:20:52.030 --> 01:20:59.489 John Compton: Oh! Yeah. And she has a dog, too. And some cats. Yeah. Got quite the zoo going on over there. 685 01:21:00.610 --> 01:21:02.350 John Compton: Excellent! 686 01:21:02.500 --> 01:21:04.910 John Compton: Fit right in. 687 01:21:05.300 --> 01:21:12.510 John Compton: We had a dog in here at our… I was just telling her. What a quiet little pig. 688 01:21:12.810 --> 01:21:25.759 John Compton: Yeah. It was so cute. I saw them, the other day. She was, like, leaving out of the neighborhood or something, and the dog was just sitting right there in the front seat, like, okay, where are we going? Because she just got her. 689 01:21:25.990 --> 01:21:45.059 John Compton: Today's Monday, so she's like Thursday? Oh, oh, fresh. We had really adopted her before, but she had a really bad case, as the whole litter did, of pneumonia. Oh, wow. So they all had to get cured from that before she could bring her home to her other three dogs. Of course. 690 01:21:45.520 --> 01:21:53.869 John Compton: They're all living. He doesn't have enough dollars to walk. That's why I walk. Kathy needs another dog. Yeah, there you go. 691 01:21:53.870 --> 01:22:18.229 John Compton: Especially now that you're retiring, you get all the dogs coming in there. Yeah. Well, you're gonna have to put a sign up on your old house to say, I booed. That's all those stray dogs that we head down that way. It gets you into the string of things, but again, yeah, I mean, this gets the doggies, because if I don't… if I'm not there ready, I'm gonna be upset. 692 01:22:18.960 --> 01:22:25.130 John Compton: What do you think of this? Because I'm just giving Patty the quick answer. 693 01:22:25.130 --> 01:22:39.529 John Compton: So, the short answer regarding volunteer… Okay, volunteers are covered by our insurance… they're covered by our insurance. Volunteer needs to be acting under the oversight of someone associated with the town. 694 01:22:40.100 --> 01:22:45.479 John Compton: Lone actors acting without approval or direction from the town are not covered. 695 01:22:45.880 --> 01:22:56.460 John Compton: Is that… Yeah. That's a good, short summary? Yeah. That's what I heard. Yeah, and then, you know… Okay. I would say that they're covered, as… as, 696 01:22:57.100 --> 01:23:01.270 John Compton: agents acting for the time, that's… Okay, that's good. Should be not used. 697 01:23:01.600 --> 01:23:02.350 John Compton: Right. 698 01:23:03.330 --> 01:23:17.729 John Compton: You know, that we know that you're tied into the insurance. Good, good point. Is it just that all for the one thing, or is it, does one person represent? 699 01:23:18.000 --> 01:23:18.820 John Compton: Yeah. 700 01:23:19.290 --> 01:23:36.149 John Compton: And he handled it well, you know, and she's, you know, for that, for that, candidates form when I brought that up. I wasn't at the candidates forum, but I didn't hear it happen, roasting her. He just went off squirt, you know, because it was a… 701 01:23:36.180 --> 01:23:59.580 John Compton: He brought it up as a, you know, what about to the candidates? Town resident who wants to volunteer to just do work. Why can't we just go out there if we see a tree down across one path, just take care of that. We're all volunteers. That is essentially what he was asking at the committee meeting, too. 702 01:23:59.580 --> 01:24:03.290 John Compton: Yeah, so it was very much a lone wolf, yeah. 703 01:24:03.290 --> 01:24:13.890 John Compton: type of approach to just doing stuff. Yes. I hope not. 704 01:24:14.460 --> 01:24:31.009 John Compton: and he… I believe that he's… 705 01:24:32.130 --> 01:24:36.700 John Compton: learned over the years. I mean, he's a welder, he's had, he's… 706 01:24:37.450 --> 01:24:40.750 John Compton: Woodworker, not just anyone. The best! 707 01:24:41.260 --> 01:24:57.949 John Compton: No. Nuclear submarine welder. That sounds like a joke. He has worked… Yeah, he's worked on nuclear submarines. If you worked on a nuke, I mean, he's… 708 01:24:58.180 --> 01:25:11.019 John Compton: Greenly qualified. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Yeah, that's really qualified. Yeah, you gotta know what you're doing after a little nuclear summary together. Not a nuclear summary at that. 709 01:25:11.070 --> 01:25:18.800 John Compton: Not the yellows. Not the yellows. You just have to know how to sing to keep that thing gasping. 710 01:25:19.900 --> 01:25:23.880 John Compton: Did you see Yellow Submarine in the theaters when it came out? No. 711 01:25:24.330 --> 01:25:25.890 John Compton: Oh, that ages me. 712 01:25:26.100 --> 01:25:30.900 John Compton: Yeah. What? You and I, we're the same. 713 01:25:31.020 --> 01:25:31.830 John Compton: Yeah. 714 01:25:31.930 --> 01:25:33.389 John Compton: Yeah, I'll be savvy. 715 01:25:33.590 --> 01:25:37.790 John Compton: Will be in November? Yeah. I'm sorry. 716 01:25:38.560 --> 01:25:40.159 John Compton: But it wasn't hers. 717 01:25:41.220 --> 01:25:49.590 John Compton: We're all the same? Yeah. We'll say the same age. Speak for yourself. 718 01:25:51.450 --> 01:25:54.820 John Compton: I already gave it away. You're the monster in the group, or what? 719 01:25:56.600 --> 01:25:59.869 John Compton: I doubt it. I don't think they are. 720 01:26:01.060 --> 01:26:11.889 John Compton: I know, by the way here are you going? 56. Oh, you're a young… you're a youngster. I'm the youngest another 55, then. Yeah. So, aren't you on 55, Chris? 721 01:26:12.830 --> 01:26:28.370 John Compton: Yes. So, Shane is 54 or 55. He was… he was 84, I think, he said. He's an old guy. I was saying he's 71, but I thought he was almost 70. Yeah, that's what I thought, but… I know Shane was born. Maybe he doesn't know. 722 01:26:30.440 --> 01:26:34.010 John Compton: Reporting in progress. This is a good year for the growth. 723 01:26:34.490 --> 01:26:42.599 John Compton: Unfortunately not. I was in Cincinnati. 724 01:26:42.970 --> 01:26:51.579 John Compton: I was in New York. They don't get her now. Yeah, they just ignore everybody. 725 01:26:53.620 --> 01:27:06.040 John Compton: Must have been solar flares or something. That was a baby, baby boomer. That was the end of the baby boom, really, right? Yeah, towards the end of that. I would never have pegged you as older than 65. 726 01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.650 John Compton: Thank you. 727 01:27:10.010 --> 01:27:15.199 John Compton: I thought you were in your early 60s. Oh, really? Yeah. 728 01:27:16.930 --> 01:27:20.430 John Compton: So you're holding up well. Thank you. 729 01:27:26.770 --> 01:27:33.790 John Compton: Yes, they say that, I guess, with slight, you know, like, half Asian, a lot of different say Asian, some hate. 730 01:27:34.830 --> 01:27:39.330 John Compton: Well, that's why I'm saying, we always look half old and half… 731 01:27:39.530 --> 01:27:55.390 John Compton: Well, it depends. I think it depends if you're coming or going. I mean, from behind, man, you guys look strong, and assured, and large, and all that. You know, hair helps. Yeah. 732 01:27:55.980 --> 01:28:04.799 John Compton: Hair helps. The color of your hair, too. The color of your bike, but this is natural. I'm not using any agents whatsoever. 733 01:28:06.080 --> 01:28:08.120 John Compton: Who said that before? Ronald Reagan? 734 01:28:08.340 --> 01:28:10.360 John Compton: Did you say that? 735 01:28:12.180 --> 01:28:16.680 John Compton: I can remember very clearly about what Ronald Reagan used to say. 736 01:28:17.110 --> 01:28:18.130 John Compton: Episode. 737 01:28:19.840 --> 01:28:20.550 John Compton: Alright. 738 01:28:21.280 --> 01:28:31.210 John Compton: He's 55. He was 1955. There's a lot of people. 739 01:28:31.780 --> 01:28:47.610 John Compton: So, I just heard, Dick. I didn't know that. I saw the adulth. Yeah. Yeah, I just heard. Was that… was she Andy Dick Kong? Come on. No, but then he died. 740 01:28:48.540 --> 01:28:51.120 John Compton: declined since I saw them, which is, like, a month ago. 741 01:28:51.550 --> 01:28:57.440 John Compton: Yeah, yeah, and he tried to get to elections, he wanted to do it, but he just couldn't get over here. 742 01:28:57.850 --> 01:28:58.930 John Compton: And that was gone. 743 01:28:59.630 --> 01:29:03.149 John Compton: Yeah. Oh my gosh. Where do you live? 744 01:29:04.440 --> 01:29:08.779 John Compton: He lives… lived in the Blue House on Maple. 745 01:29:08.780 --> 01:29:32.890 John Compton: Not your… Black shirt. They moved and renovated that place just for him, and it's been less than a year. Someone just got… just got murdered. That's what you were saying. Yeah, they just finished, yeah. I don't know when they finished the course, sometimes it lasts 6 months. Yeah. Their son lives in the house that… 746 01:29:32.890 --> 01:29:36.339 John Compton: I used to, love it. 747 01:29:36.620 --> 01:29:39.259 John Compton: Wow, and our kids grew up together. 748 01:29:40.270 --> 01:29:48.499 John Compton: He tried. He really loves his determined, but his body just wouldn't… 749 01:29:49.260 --> 01:29:53.419 John Compton: That's what… Yeah, last time I saw him was last year at the elections. 750 01:29:57.650 --> 01:29:58.440 John Compton: Oh my. 751 01:30:06.310 --> 01:30:07.530 John Compton: Good luck. 752 01:30:09.940 --> 01:30:15.070 John Compton: Well, we don't have to wait the half hour to get set up this time, at least more than you'll wait. 753 01:30:15.520 --> 01:30:16.410 John Compton: I know. 754 01:30:19.770 --> 01:30:25.009 John Compton: We could all start looking for the remote. 755 01:30:25.220 --> 01:30:32.159 John Compton: I'll go to my house and look, I'll look at my house, maybe it's in my house somewhere, I bet. That would be funny. 756 01:30:34.720 --> 01:30:43.540 John Compton: Well, you know where it is, it's in the last place you look. So, look… so… Do the last place first. You'll find it. 757 01:30:44.140 --> 01:30:48.209 John Compton: It's like, it's like one of those things you can't buy, and you actually had a tracker on this. 758 01:30:53.580 --> 01:30:55.529 John Compton: We're all done! You missed it. 759 01:31:01.030 --> 01:31:02.619 John Compton: Well, glad we had to have a break. 760 01:31:04.680 --> 01:31:16.500 John Compton: New floor! That looks awesome! Isn't that nice? What? And this floor in the office. 761 01:31:16.620 --> 01:31:33.719 John Compton: The walls are a different color, actually. I didn't notice that. What color were they before? Aige? Yeah. 762 01:31:33.860 --> 01:31:35.880 John Compton: Very nice. I saw that. 763 01:31:36.210 --> 01:31:37.330 John Compton: We can do it, Tara. 764 01:31:37.640 --> 01:31:39.839 John Compton: Just here to say hello. Hello, I know. 765 01:31:41.110 --> 01:31:48.300 John Compton: Did you start limiting between me and your daughter? No, I was limiting beforehand, I dropped it. 766 01:31:51.610 --> 01:31:54.120 John Compton: Alright, well, what are we gonna kiss off? 767 01:31:55.120 --> 01:31:57.099 John Compton: recession booths on a human. 768 01:31:58.170 --> 01:32:09.619 John Compton: Did you bring yourself one for dinner? But it's right for us. They were here so long, we should be served. We should be served dinner. 769 01:32:10.560 --> 01:32:14.539 John Compton: Who wants to make that motion? Second… 770 01:32:17.250 --> 01:32:26.300 John Compton: Two more minutes. Couple more minutes, everybody, and… was there a bottle up there at one point, for a long time, of some kind of… 771 01:32:26.450 --> 01:32:43.859 John Compton: Yeah, there's a wine bottle. Our archivist put it in the back so that… Is it silly? It's gonna have a beer bottle in it. There's a beer bottle. 772 01:32:44.030 --> 01:32:52.979 John Compton: Peter's so happy now. What's in it, though? No, because of that air. I'm not happy. 773 01:32:53.420 --> 01:32:54.330 John Compton: strategy. 774 01:32:56.180 --> 01:32:58.639 John Compton: And people are still showing up, so… 775 01:33:02.640 --> 01:33:05.400 John Compton: Well, having Oktoberfest at the Circlefest. 776 01:33:07.500 --> 01:33:11.599 John Compton: Yeah, we should have that showing, right? 777 01:33:12.040 --> 01:33:13.279 John Compton: Don't miss that. 778 01:33:17.460 --> 01:33:18.360 John Compton: Okay. 779 01:33:25.120 --> 01:33:29.159 John Compton: All right, I'll cancel this here. Everybody hear me, I hope? 780 01:33:30.960 --> 01:33:34.930 John Compton: Alright, we're, going to, 781 01:33:37.440 --> 01:33:43.019 John Compton: continue the open, meeting of the Town Council, today. 782 01:33:43.580 --> 01:33:57.739 John Compton: We have already approved the agenda, so, the agenda's in place. The, the next item on the agenda is not what we're doing. The first thing I'm going to do is swear in our newly elected 783 01:33:58.070 --> 01:33:59.160 John Compton: Councilman. 784 01:33:59.560 --> 01:34:02.279 John Compton: So, in case you were wondering… 785 01:34:02.720 --> 01:34:05.680 John Compton: I was sworn in myself, plausibly. 786 01:34:06.280 --> 01:34:08.709 John Compton: by the clerical Court in Brockville. 787 01:34:09.050 --> 01:34:10.450 John Compton: So, 788 01:34:11.040 --> 01:34:27.449 John Compton: We can do just… we can do both of you at once. Okay. Just in… you have to stand and raise your right hand. That's this part of it, yeah. Just insert your own name, and… and… and… and you… you can… 789 01:34:28.140 --> 01:34:37.929 John Compton: Repeat in unison. We should do you one at a time. Okay. I… Aye. 790 01:34:38.670 --> 01:34:52.860 John Compton: Do affirm that I will support the Constitution of the United States, and through the United States, and that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance… And I will be faithful to that true allegiance. 791 01:34:52.860 --> 01:35:02.980 John Compton: to the state of Maryland, and support the Constitution and laws thereof. That was the… And then I will. 792 01:35:02.990 --> 01:35:11.759 John Compton: To the best of my skill and judgment, as opposed to my son, diligently and faithfully. Diligently, everything like. 793 01:35:11.760 --> 01:35:33.150 John Compton: Without partiality or prejudice. Without partiality or prejudice. Execute the office of counselor. Execute the Office of Councillor. According to the Constitution and laws of this state… and the Charter and Ordinances of the Town of Washington Brooks. And the charter laws that you were. 794 01:35:40.510 --> 01:35:41.530 John Compton: Okay. 795 01:35:41.880 --> 01:35:52.259 John Compton: Alrighty, so the, item of business to start is the public hearing on Ordinance, 2026-03. 796 01:35:52.430 --> 01:35:59.480 John Compton: Adopting the town budget for the fiscal year July 1st, 26 through June 30, 27, 797 01:35:59.630 --> 01:36:06.529 John Compton: and levying an alarm tax on all accessible property within the town of Washington Grove, Maryland. 798 01:36:07.580 --> 01:36:21.290 John Compton: So this is a public hearing. The ordinance, was in the materials, so is there anyone here who wants to speak to this ordinance? 799 01:36:25.960 --> 01:36:37.420 John Compton: surprisingly, there's no one. So, I forgot to start this with the preamble that the reason we have this ordinance 800 01:36:38.860 --> 01:36:49.280 John Compton: is because the state of Maryland requires you, municipalities, to adopt their budget and their tax rates by ordinance. 801 01:36:49.750 --> 01:36:57.989 John Compton: Even though the Town of Washington Grove's charter simply requires the town meeting to approve both of these 802 01:36:58.180 --> 01:37:02.719 John Compton: Things, so we are meeting the requirements of the state. 803 01:37:02.880 --> 01:37:09.020 John Compton: And by, by, proposing this, this ordinance. 804 01:37:09.320 --> 01:37:14.170 John Compton: And so, nobody speaking, we'll call the public hearing to a close. 805 01:37:14.470 --> 01:37:16.020 John Compton: Thanks, everybody. 806 01:37:16.610 --> 01:37:19.540 John Compton: Alright, that's exciting. 807 01:37:19.930 --> 01:37:29.010 John Compton: All right, we'll move on to the regular business of the Council meeting. The first item of regular business is Council Organizational… 808 01:37:29.140 --> 01:37:33.509 John Compton: matters. I already did the oath of office. 809 01:37:33.810 --> 01:37:39.670 John Compton: We have a consult handbook that's, available, online. 810 01:37:40.790 --> 01:37:46.370 John Compton: I know Peter already has access to it. Nick, we have to send you a link. 811 01:37:46.470 --> 01:37:50.390 John Compton: The, unfortunately, it's not as up-to-date as 812 01:37:51.280 --> 01:37:55.180 John Compton: One would hope, although it has a great deal of 813 01:37:55.450 --> 01:37:59.229 John Compton: Relevant and current information in it as well. 814 01:37:59.340 --> 01:38:03.610 John Compton: So it's, it's, it's, it is useful, because there's a whole myriad of things. 815 01:38:04.100 --> 01:38:08.509 John Compton: We're being the most recent, but what about you? 816 01:38:08.630 --> 01:38:18.010 John Compton: council member, can attest that there's just, you know, you just don't know a whole lot of things. You feel… you find yourself asking about all sorts of things all the time. 817 01:38:18.170 --> 01:38:27.250 John Compton: The council member can help, but… so you'll send that to me, I'll send you the link. If I don't, ask him how I should do that. 818 01:38:28.150 --> 01:38:35.049 John Compton: All right, next thing is, for the Council, because I find it usually a good idea 819 01:38:35.220 --> 01:38:44.910 John Compton: To review the town's, revenue sources and accounts. And for that, we have Governor Dean Moyer to… 820 01:38:45.590 --> 01:38:47.480 John Compton: Do that. 821 01:38:48.170 --> 01:38:50.060 Jean Moyer: You gonna put it up, John? 822 01:38:50.570 --> 01:38:53.689 John Compton: Did you change it at all? Or did I not. 823 01:38:53.690 --> 01:39:00.039 Jean Moyer: No, I just have, two comments at the very bottom of it. 824 01:39:00.040 --> 01:39:01.829 John Compton: I brought it up, of course. 825 01:39:03.300 --> 01:39:05.060 John Compton: He says… 826 01:39:08.440 --> 01:39:09.460 John Compton: Alrighty. 827 01:39:13.830 --> 01:39:14.920 John Compton: Alright, here we go. 828 01:39:16.020 --> 01:39:31.770 Jean Moyer: So, as many of you know, the bulk of, lion's share of our revenue comes from the county and the state, different taxing, revenue that they receive that's passed to us. 829 01:39:32.100 --> 01:39:43.850 Jean Moyer: The real property tax, as was, approved just recently, a few minutes ago, the rate is, 830 01:39:44.070 --> 01:40:00.239 Jean Moyer: suggested by, the State Assessment Office, and has repeatedly, as long as I've been Treasurer, been going down. It's based on assessed, property assessments in the town. 831 01:40:00.990 --> 01:40:10.239 Jean Moyer: That, also the dwelling tax you can find on your property tax bill, that, is… 832 01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:21.129 Jean Moyer: The county, kind of Passing on revenue to us because we contract for our own trash and recycling. 833 01:40:21.280 --> 01:40:23.100 Jean Moyer: And, 834 01:40:23.550 --> 01:40:40.249 Jean Moyer: that comes back to us to cover us for that. Utility, personal property tax is minimal. It's only about $5,000, $6,000 a year. But it's for the use of the utilities, that are using town property. 835 01:40:40.710 --> 01:40:58.630 Jean Moyer: Delinquent taxes kind of speaks for itself. As folks pay their taxes late, that gets passed on to us, identified separately, and along with it come the revenue on penalties and interest that folks were charged for being delinquent. 836 01:40:58.710 --> 01:41:14.370 Jean Moyer: The state income tax, obviously, as you pay your taxes every year, as you put the code on there for Washington Grove, a portion of the state income tax then comes to us. 837 01:41:14.520 --> 01:41:29.930 Jean Moyer: That is a fairly significant part of our budget, along with the real property tax. Business licenses is quite minimal. There's only 5 businesses in town that pay that. 838 01:41:30.360 --> 01:41:48.729 Jean Moyer: Building permit fees, obviously that speaks for itself. Public waste and property permit fee, let's say what WSSC has to come through town, they pay a permit to do the work that they need to do on public land. 839 01:41:49.190 --> 01:42:00.549 Jean Moyer: Cable television, that would be Verizon and Comcast. Again, they pay a fee for use of the public land, running their wires through. 840 01:42:01.080 --> 01:42:06.669 Jean Moyer: The highway user revenue, that is, 841 01:42:06.710 --> 01:42:24.380 Jean Moyer: From the state, and it's really based on, the number of miles that, we have, our roads, and we have to account to the state every year, how… that we are using the money they are giving us. 842 01:42:24.590 --> 01:42:25.630 Jean Moyer: comm. 843 01:42:25.800 --> 01:42:38.220 Jean Moyer: County municipal tax duplication is a difficult concept for even me to wrap my head around, but there are certain services that the town provides, 844 01:42:38.220 --> 01:42:52.550 Jean Moyer: that in other jurisdictions, the county provides, like road maintenance. And, so the county has a calculation scheme for effectively reimbursing the town for that. 845 01:42:52.720 --> 01:43:01.559 Jean Moyer: Recreation program user fees, for the most part, that's really somewhere in the parks. 846 01:43:01.990 --> 01:43:06.979 Jean Moyer: Folks, you know, paying to register their child in the program. 847 01:43:07.140 --> 01:43:19.180 Jean Moyer: Investment earnings, we currently, we're with PNC. We have a money market and checking. The bulk of our investments are sitting in MLGIP, 848 01:43:19.180 --> 01:43:28.759 Jean Moyer: Maryland Local Government Investment Trust. It's a pool. It's very safe money, and, it makes very good interest. 849 01:43:28.760 --> 01:43:37.800 Jean Moyer: We also have two CDs that are with a bank called Atlantic Union. 850 01:43:38.140 --> 01:43:54.300 Jean Moyer: McCatherine Hall Rental, that pretty much speaks for itself. Contributions, donations, speaks for itself, and miscellaneous, anything else that comes in that doesn't already have a place to be put. Action hauling across, the way. 851 01:43:54.300 --> 01:44:02.150 Jean Moyer: On the other side of railroad by the post office. We have a small strip of land that they have a… 852 01:44:02.200 --> 01:44:11.169 Jean Moyer: Trailer on, and so, they pay us $2,000 a year to, make use of that little strip of land. 853 01:44:11.250 --> 01:44:31.200 Jean Moyer: And then, I would add to this, the commercial corner now gets trash pickup along with the rest of the town residents, and so we, invoice them for their proportionate share at the same rate that everybody else is paying. 854 01:44:32.110 --> 01:44:49.790 Jean Moyer: In the restricted grant revenue, I wanted to add into here the two latest state grants. One is supporting the stormwater, and one is for the playground. Those are reimbursement-based. This paragraph talks about… 855 01:44:49.790 --> 01:44:58.599 Jean Moyer: the federal ARPA money and the Maryland state grant we received for the meadow restoration. We received that money up front. 856 01:44:58.630 --> 01:45:16.580 Jean Moyer: And we recognize the revenue as it's spent, otherwise it's called deferred revenue. But the two newest grants are reimbursement-based, and as we spend money on those projects, we will bill them, and when we're paid, then we will recognize the revenue. 857 01:45:16.780 --> 01:45:31.600 Jean Moyer: The program open space, the way that works is, as it says here, it's, you know, a town share of real estate transfer taxes, but the amount available to us is 858 01:45:31.600 --> 01:45:47.680 Jean Moyer: determined and, dependent on the budget that year for the Department of Parks. And for us to get our hands on any of that money that is available in their budget, we have to have, submit a proposal. 859 01:45:47.680 --> 01:46:06.850 Jean Moyer: And the proposal's got to be pretty, definite within including cost proposals from vendors to demonstrate that there is a need for that. Currently, we've been told that what's available to us is about $6,000. 860 01:46:07.310 --> 01:46:17.840 Jean Moyer: Not much, won't go too far. But, we can put a proposal together once we have some vendor proposals, perhaps, to help with 861 01:46:18.280 --> 01:46:35.749 Jean Moyer: the basketball asphalt, or something like that, and see if it gets approved. But it's not a definite that we get the money, access to that money. It's all dependent on their budget and other proposals that they've received, so… 862 01:46:36.060 --> 01:46:40.290 Jean Moyer: That… those were the extra comments that I wanted to make on that. 863 01:46:40.940 --> 01:46:50.139 Jean Moyer: And I… I think most of you know this, although this is new for, Nick… Any questions? 864 01:46:53.130 --> 01:46:55.560 Jean Moyer: If you have questions later on, reach out. 865 01:46:57.250 --> 01:47:01.300 John Compton: Jim will handle a lot of questions about where we keep our money. 866 01:47:02.100 --> 01:47:06.880 Jean Moyer: Well, I did. PNC, Atlantic Union, and MLGIP. 867 01:47:11.910 --> 01:47:14.060 John Compton: Okay, thanks. Yep. Alright. 868 01:47:14.520 --> 01:47:26.820 John Compton: the, okay, the next part of the, or the, organizational business is… is, 869 01:47:27.070 --> 01:47:35.760 John Compton: Some helpful things that are helpful to, we as elected officials, and also something that I make a 870 01:47:36.580 --> 01:47:39.760 John Compton: Out of acquiring, let me show… 871 01:47:39.880 --> 01:47:42.840 John Compton: This document is, again, and the materials. 872 01:47:46.330 --> 01:47:49.999 John Compton: Okay, so, maybe a little bit bigger. 873 01:47:50.600 --> 01:47:51.309 John Compton: Pretty good. 874 01:47:53.080 --> 01:48:02.789 John Compton: So, the, The Maryland Municipality has an Academy for Excellence in Local Governments. This is a… 875 01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:06.439 John Compton: This consists of a series of, 876 01:48:07.000 --> 01:48:18.069 John Compton: I don't know whether they're seminars, classes, what you call them, and therefore, elected officials to, learn more about various aspects of government. 877 01:48:18.300 --> 01:48:24.439 John Compton: And their responsibilities, so if you're interested, the link was here, and you can check out what they are offering. 878 01:48:25.440 --> 01:48:32.890 John Compton: The other thing is the Maryland Open Meetings Act, most of you know that 879 01:48:33.020 --> 01:48:42.060 John Compton: As public officials, we are, required by the, Open Meetings Act. 880 01:48:42.420 --> 01:48:47.590 John Compton: To conduct our business in the open, and not, privately. 881 01:48:47.750 --> 01:48:53.369 John Compton: And, you know, there are certain rules about gathering, 882 01:48:55.420 --> 01:49:00.230 John Compton: Members of the deciding body, the lawmaking bodies, 883 01:49:00.360 --> 01:49:05.429 John Compton: And basically, that… those are all, 884 01:49:05.960 --> 01:49:13.750 John Compton: Described, and the nature of the open meeting is described, the notice that's required, the cost of agendas. 885 01:49:13.950 --> 01:49:25.430 John Compton: Etc. And, it, is important that we as, as elected officials understand and adhere to that. 886 01:49:25.570 --> 01:49:29.629 John Compton: So every year, I ask, The council? Myself. 887 01:49:30.420 --> 01:49:33.800 John Compton: And, commission… appointed commissioners. 888 01:49:34.220 --> 01:49:45.070 John Compton: HBC, to, take this, online Open Meetings Act quote, class. 889 01:49:45.250 --> 01:49:52.370 John Compton: Which… Where you, where you, it, it, it, it explains the… 890 01:49:52.820 --> 01:50:01.399 John Compton: key elements of the Open Meetings Act, and then you take a little, you take a little pass, and if you pass it, you know. 891 01:50:01.550 --> 01:50:19.340 John Compton: fireworks go off. You get a certificate with a testing that you pass, and if you don't pass, you get to do it again. And if you don't pass it then, you're drummed out of office. No. 892 01:50:19.450 --> 01:50:26.729 John Compton: So, I asked everybody to do that sometime in the next few months. It doesn't take all that long. 893 01:50:28.300 --> 01:50:37.090 John Compton: And copy of the Open Current Written Open Meetings Act document is in the… is in the materials for this 894 01:50:37.260 --> 01:50:41.350 John Compton: meeting. It's also available online. You can send this document, you can see. 895 01:50:43.710 --> 01:50:54.460 Barbara: Excuse me for interrupting, John, but I just have a message from a resident who says they're having trouble hearing you, so maybe… I don't know if you could speak louder, or closer to the mic, or something like that. 896 01:50:54.790 --> 01:50:56.690 John Compton: Are you having trouble? 897 01:50:56.690 --> 01:50:57.910 Barbara: I'm not, no. 898 01:50:59.420 --> 01:51:01.670 John Compton: I'm pretty close to my mic. 899 01:51:01.840 --> 01:51:10.210 John Compton: Well, I'm using the one over there, so… or this one, no. Well, okay, let me… I never checked to see if this was set correctly. 900 01:51:10.630 --> 01:51:14.640 John Compton: Sorry. 901 01:51:21.230 --> 01:51:23.060 John Compton: Appears to be. 902 01:51:29.300 --> 01:51:31.050 John Compton: I keep putting up a bit. 903 01:51:31.760 --> 01:51:35.759 John Compton: If it's too high, it will… Probably bug everybody. 904 01:51:36.810 --> 01:51:40.079 John Compton: Maybe it's a physician. Okay. 905 01:51:41.650 --> 01:51:42.760 John Compton: Alright. 906 01:51:44.020 --> 01:51:47.190 John Compton: So, let me stop sharing that. 907 01:51:48.520 --> 01:51:55.320 John Compton: All right, the next item is, is Council responsibilities for the coming year, and I've, 908 01:51:55.430 --> 01:51:58.540 John Compton: Talked to the few of you who, 909 01:51:59.400 --> 01:52:05.889 John Compton: Who are involved with any, any change in the, in these responsibilities, and… I'm gonna… 910 01:52:06.570 --> 01:52:16.430 John Compton: Just show it and make sure you guys are all, it, it, it says what, what, what we discussed, so… and… 911 01:52:16.730 --> 01:52:20.149 John Compton: One attending the meeting can see for themselves 912 01:52:20.260 --> 01:52:23.689 John Compton: And, it takes the form of this chart. 913 01:52:26.850 --> 01:52:29.579 John Compton: Make it as big as I can here. 914 01:52:30.250 --> 01:52:38.260 John Compton: Okay, so Nick, being the new council member, 915 01:52:38.470 --> 01:52:42.789 John Compton: He, as you know, was on the playground committee. 916 01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:43.830 John Compton: But… 917 01:52:44.190 --> 01:53:03.780 John Compton: because he's now on the council, and the council has to make decisions on proposals from the playground committee, he's not going to… he's going to step off of the playground committee, but we need a liaison to the playground committee from the council, so you will actually get to participate, can't vote. 918 01:53:04.480 --> 01:53:07.959 John Compton: You can… if you're inter… your interests can still… 919 01:53:08.190 --> 01:53:13.770 John Compton: still be expressed on that committee. He's gonna do the Gateway Committee, 920 01:53:14.120 --> 01:53:25.190 John Compton: And Shady Grove Crossing, which is the homeowners association across from Lower Ridge Road, the new houses there, we have interactions with them. 921 01:53:27.460 --> 01:53:36.060 John Compton: On various things, often trash, or… or improving the buffer, the wooden buffer, the… 922 01:53:36.650 --> 01:53:45.250 John Compton: The bike, the multi-user pathway project is going to, build a enhanced connection 923 01:53:46.170 --> 01:53:53.920 John Compton: All right, Mary has no changes. You're actually a committee for that, or I'm just the contact? Not a committee, I'm just… you're just the contact person. 924 01:53:54.050 --> 01:54:01.709 John Compton: come to the Council of any issues, or convey anything yet. I do have changes, because I was on the playground, and I was not on roads. 925 01:54:02.470 --> 01:54:05.190 John Compton: I know. On the road. 926 01:54:05.320 --> 01:54:11.390 John Compton: You don't tell me what that means, right? It means you get to walk the road. 927 01:54:11.420 --> 01:54:28.700 John Compton: color coding… the color coding, by the way, if you look further down… I know, generally lighter duty, meaning, you know, if anybody complains about the roads, you're on. Gotcha. Or if we go do road repaving, then you would be, 928 01:54:29.090 --> 01:54:31.640 John Compton: Take a… pick… play the role. 929 01:54:32.640 --> 01:54:46.409 John Compton: So John Porter, has agreed to change a few of his responsibilities. He's still going to be the liaison of the woods. He's going to switch to light. He's going to take on lighting. 930 01:54:46.910 --> 01:54:55.579 John Compton: and the website communication responsibility. So that, as I explained to John. 931 01:54:55.780 --> 01:55:13.130 John Compton: That responsibility, which Barbara had this last year, has been minimal, because with Christine handling the website, there wasn't a whole lot of issues. But now we don't have anybody in that role. It's… it's actually just shared by another number of people. 932 01:55:13.190 --> 01:55:16.129 John Compton: So, I think the website communications… 933 01:55:16.490 --> 01:55:28.119 John Compton: It's going to involve a little bit more coordination. Arlene's doing the bulletin, Arlene is going to do project management for website development. She's already doing it. 934 01:55:28.500 --> 01:55:36.089 John Compton: We, we, we need to up, keep the website current, with current information. 935 01:55:36.510 --> 01:55:42.099 John Compton: And we need to ensure we have someone who's doing that. Right now, it's me. 936 01:55:42.680 --> 01:55:57.949 John Compton: So, people are sending me stuff they need done, and I'm sending that on to Marcus Trapp, who is our developer, who agreed to do that for us, and he's done it well, and says it doesn't take him all that long. Takes me longer to tell him what we need. 937 01:55:58.220 --> 01:56:01.390 John Compton: Then it probably then for him to do it. 938 01:56:01.790 --> 01:56:09.769 John Compton: But I'm hoping we'll find another volunteer to take on my role. It's… it's not you, because it's… it's actually… it's… it's… 939 01:56:10.340 --> 01:56:14.599 John Compton: More than that. Christine said it took her 10 hours a month. 940 01:56:14.700 --> 01:56:31.750 John Compton: to do that. I think you and I will have to have a conversation about what this intends. What that entails. I know, you said that. All right, I just… and this is for the benefit of everybody. Okay. Okay, so those are all the only changes. Everybody else is staying with what they are, with one other exception. 941 01:56:31.750 --> 01:56:38.490 John Compton: Contracts, it's not assigned to anybody. I'll take on contracts Which, as we discussed. 942 01:56:39.050 --> 01:56:41.820 John Compton: The town attorney will be playing a… 943 01:56:41.970 --> 01:56:50.699 John Compton: role in our contracts, at least for the next year or two, as we review the, the… 944 01:56:51.210 --> 01:56:55.800 John Compton: The… to make sure our contracts are keeping up with current was. 945 01:56:57.150 --> 01:57:00.719 John Compton: Okay, so everybody, any questions about this now? 946 01:57:02.410 --> 01:57:08.759 John Compton: All right, I'll try and get this onto the website. I'm responsible for that. 947 01:57:09.070 --> 01:57:15.190 John Compton: Alrighty, the next item for organization is Mayor Pro Tem. 948 01:57:15.360 --> 01:57:19.669 John Compton: The pro tem for last year was Barbara. 949 01:57:20.060 --> 01:57:23.300 John Compton: I need a, a, 950 01:57:23.820 --> 01:57:29.050 John Compton: a… a nominee for Mayor Pro Tem. 951 01:57:30.550 --> 01:57:32.380 John Compton: Is Barbara not doing it? 952 01:57:33.290 --> 01:57:38.930 John Compton: She needs to be nominated. I nominate Barbara. Okay. For Mayor Pro Tem. Anybody else? 953 01:57:39.390 --> 01:57:50.060 John Compton: Unless Peter wants to do it. I would love to do it, but I want Barbara to do it. She can convince you. She keeps you in line. I think Barbara will accept the line. I'm gonna do it, but, yeah, yeah. 954 01:57:50.060 --> 01:57:51.180 Barbara: I accept. 955 01:57:51.750 --> 01:58:09.189 John Compton: So let's, if no one else is interested, I mean, Peter is, but Peter's going to actually get to do it, I'll tell you in a minute. But all in favor of, of Barbara as Mayor Pro Tem. Okay, she's… she's back in for another year. Barbara, thank you very much. Well… Thank you. 956 01:58:09.270 --> 01:58:18.840 John Compton: All right, thank you for agreeing to do that. However, I'm going to be away May 27th through June 6th. 957 01:58:19.220 --> 01:58:21.490 John Compton: in, I'll be in the Southwest. 958 01:58:22.110 --> 01:58:35.730 John Compton: probably overlapping barbers also somewhere in the West until June 15th? Yeah. So, both of us will be out of town, and I've already asked Peter 959 01:58:36.420 --> 01:58:48.509 John Compton: So he gets to… You wouldn't recognize his talent. That's the problem. There you go, guys, here we go. Peter, you and I can talk. Yes. Right. 960 01:58:49.000 --> 01:58:50.860 John Compton: Okay, 961 01:58:52.100 --> 01:59:02.640 John Compton: All right, and speaking of Peter, the last item for organization is to appoint the council member representative on the Planning Commission. 962 01:59:02.880 --> 01:59:09.299 John Compton: For which Peter has been for… Ever. Well, he's been for… 963 01:59:09.630 --> 01:59:27.130 John Compton: since you were Councilmember recently, but prior to that, he actually was the chairman of the Planning Commission. So, yes, he's been on it a while. So, I propose that Peter continue on the Planning Commission, and the Council gets to confirm 964 01:59:27.270 --> 01:59:35.420 John Compton: Or… Not. My nomination. Any comments on Peter before we vote? 965 01:59:35.680 --> 01:59:53.050 John Compton: Generally? Shall I wait till Circle Fest is out? Yes. If it is rain, I'm out. You're out, right. All good, all good. Okay, all in favor of Peter serving as… Thank you. Thank you, guys. Planning Commission member. 966 01:59:53.390 --> 01:59:54.740 John Compton: Okay, done. 967 01:59:55.750 --> 02:00:07.599 John Compton: All right, that takes us out of the organizational business to approval of minutes. I did actually drop in the minutes from April 13th, earlier today. 968 02:00:07.980 --> 02:00:16.420 John Compton: And I can show them, to anyone who wants to, see them, but I need a motion to approve. 969 02:00:16.450 --> 02:00:29.470 John Compton: The minutes? I was going to approve the minutes? I'll second it. Okay, thanks. Do I have any comments, corrections? Or whatever about the minutes of April 13th? 970 02:00:31.050 --> 02:00:31.810 John Compton: Hiro. 971 02:00:32.100 --> 02:00:35.730 John Compton: You haven't even time to look at it, I'm sure. 972 02:00:36.420 --> 02:00:43.119 John Compton: We can always revisit the minutes. All in favor of approving the minutes as provided. Okay. 973 02:00:43.360 --> 02:00:45.730 John Compton: That's 5-0, Nick can't vote. 974 02:00:46.010 --> 02:00:50.840 John Compton: He wasn't. Right. Pleasant present at the meeting. 975 02:00:51.380 --> 02:00:54.510 John Compton: Okay. 976 02:00:56.810 --> 02:00:59.529 John Compton: All right, we reach public appearances. 977 02:00:59.910 --> 02:01:05.109 John Compton: Is anyone here to make a public appearance on any subject whatsoever? 978 02:01:07.890 --> 02:01:09.620 John Compton: She ain't no hands. 979 02:01:10.000 --> 02:01:13.360 John Compton: We will open and close the public appearances. 980 02:01:13.700 --> 02:01:15.200 John Compton: Thanks, everyone. 981 02:01:16.020 --> 02:01:18.120 John Compton: The Treasurer's report is next. 982 02:01:18.440 --> 02:01:30.190 John Compton: And, Which, Jean provided, and now we'll make any, additional comments, Jean, that you… 983 02:01:30.190 --> 02:01:39.979 Jean Moyer: I don't really have any extra comments. The bulk of the… Sprinkler has come through now. 984 02:01:40.170 --> 02:01:55.550 Jean Moyer: I think we are 128 out of the 175 budget. More will come through a little bit, not much more. So we did fairly well with that. We will have a… 985 02:01:55.710 --> 02:02:03.550 Jean Moyer: I think, the last check to, Chesapeake is in the neighborhood of 30,000. 986 02:02:03.580 --> 02:02:16.809 Jean Moyer: thereabouts, $25,000, $30,000, so, we're… we're nicely under budget on that. But I really don't have anything new from last month to mention. 987 02:02:17.100 --> 02:02:25.880 Jean Moyer: And… Nick, if you have any questions, you can reach out to me, separately. 988 02:02:26.060 --> 02:02:32.449 Jean Moyer: So, I really don't have any questions. 989 02:02:32.620 --> 02:02:36.810 Jean Moyer: I mean, any… thing other than the notes that I've put in there. 990 02:02:39.680 --> 02:02:43.659 John Compton: So, Gene… Gene includes the, the… 991 02:02:44.260 --> 02:02:50.519 John Compton: bank balances, account balances at the end of the budget, and I just rolled, rolled into. 992 02:02:50.520 --> 02:03:07.419 Jean Moyer: That, the Meadow grant, the deferred revenue that's remaining from the original $10,000 that we received, we will be spending that and releasing that money, with, some non-native invasive, work that was being done. 993 02:03:07.420 --> 02:03:17.410 Jean Moyer: I should be getting that invoice shortly. And the Terry Cox Memorial Money, I've talked with F&B, and we have, 994 02:03:17.410 --> 02:03:26.369 Jean Moyer: identified ways to apply that funding to. So, those two items should disappear by the end of June. 995 02:03:26.440 --> 02:03:30.810 Jean Moyer: And the miscellaneous revenue, 996 02:03:30.930 --> 02:03:37.039 Jean Moyer: I give you a breakdown of… of what comprises that, 997 02:03:37.700 --> 02:03:40.410 Jean Moyer: So, you can see all that there? 998 02:03:44.910 --> 02:03:48.220 Jean Moyer: Anybody have any questions? 999 02:03:48.520 --> 02:03:51.720 John Compton: Gene, I do have a question regarding, Chesapeake. 1000 02:03:51.720 --> 02:03:52.320 Jean Moyer: Yeah. 1001 02:03:52.800 --> 02:04:02.210 John Compton: Right? So, you know that we've been having some difficulties in trying to get, you know, true numbers from these guys, now that we're looking, you know, at the final. Okay. 1002 02:04:03.600 --> 02:04:06.909 John Compton: What if it runs into July? 1003 02:04:07.530 --> 02:04:09.990 John Compton: Trying to get good numbers. 1004 02:04:10.300 --> 02:04:20.740 Jean Moyer: Oh, well, if the invoice is dated in June, I mean, as long as the service date and the invoice date are in June, we can use it in this fiscal year. 1005 02:04:21.170 --> 02:04:22.060 John Compton: Okay. 1006 02:04:22.060 --> 02:04:35.769 Jean Moyer: Yeah, so just make sure you communicate to them that any invoices they submit, which I guess they're truing up the final numbers with the proposal, just has a June date on it. 1007 02:04:36.300 --> 02:04:43.520 John Compton: Okay, yeah, and it's not that much of a glitch. I know we've been trying to track down $550. 1008 02:04:43.520 --> 02:04:45.290 Jean Moyer: Right, right, right, guys. 1009 02:04:45.290 --> 02:04:46.569 John Compton: around forever, so… 1010 02:04:46.570 --> 02:05:04.329 Jean Moyer: But the, budgeted $175 will disappear at the, I mean, it doesn't mean we can't, incur as part of the hall maintenance money, but if… as long as they, the service date, which is well into this fiscal year. 1011 02:05:04.330 --> 02:05:04.730 John Compton: Okay. 1012 02:05:04.730 --> 02:05:05.300 Jean Moyer: Yep. 1013 02:05:05.800 --> 02:05:06.959 John Compton: Okay, thank you. 1014 02:05:06.960 --> 02:05:07.500 Jean Moyer: Sure. 1015 02:05:10.850 --> 02:05:14.280 John Compton: Okay, thanks, Jean. We need a motion to accept the Treasurer's report? 1016 02:05:14.480 --> 02:05:26.590 John Compton: I'll move to accept the Treasurer's report. I'll second it. John… John Porter moved, and Chris seconded. Accepting the Treasurer's report. Any other comments? All in favor? 1017 02:05:27.000 --> 02:05:30.009 John Compton: Katie? Aye. All right, unanimous. 1018 02:05:30.700 --> 02:05:36.650 John Compton: All right, this brings me to, my mayor's report. 1019 02:05:36.900 --> 02:05:56.570 John Compton: First off, the kudos, which will… are remarkably similar to a few things I said at the annual town meeting. Remarkably. Terry Arnold, master carpenter, deserves major kudos for designing and building the 15B hotels that, 1020 02:05:56.960 --> 02:06:00.640 John Compton: I've been placed around town in residence yards. 1021 02:06:01.300 --> 02:06:08.780 John Compton: To encourage pollinators to flourish in Washington Grove, and also, For his, 1022 02:06:09.440 --> 02:06:13.499 John Compton: for recreating the Anne's Folly signs and plaque. 1023 02:06:13.750 --> 02:06:29.339 John Compton: and oak leaves and wood trim for the restoration of the Thames shed. All of that's not quite complete yet, but it's getting… getting there. So, Terry's, you know, volunteer efforts are, terrific. 1024 02:06:29.990 --> 02:06:49.550 John Compton: And also, to town residents Steve Wertz and Dane Clark and Councillor Chris Grisham for their extraordinary dedication and contributions in time and effort to accomplish the timely reopening of McCatherine Hall to public use following installation of the sprinkler pipe system. 1025 02:06:50.060 --> 02:06:58.630 John Compton: So, at the town meeting, I particularly thanked Chris for the extraordinary amount of time and effort he put in. 1026 02:06:58.910 --> 02:07:11.470 John Compton: To a responsibility that hardly anticipated. A time-dependent project of this magnitude, and 1027 02:07:11.820 --> 02:07:25.900 John Compton: between his conscientious, work with Steve and Dane, the project appears to have been completed, you know, completely satisfactorily and on time. So, fantastic. 1028 02:07:25.990 --> 02:07:36.360 John Compton: And of course, Nahal saw some additional spruce-ups, painting down here, new floor in the… in the office. 1029 02:07:36.520 --> 02:07:42.920 John Compton: New fans, a new light fixtures in the old conference room. 1030 02:07:43.120 --> 02:08:01.230 John Compton: Insulation in the ceiling of the main hall, all were added, and the, the ceiling of the old council room, also was replaced. The wood was all replaced, ripped out and then replaced, and you can hardly tell 1031 02:08:01.380 --> 02:08:11.530 John Compton: Those of us who knew what it looked like before, it looks… Almost identical, so… Right. 1032 02:08:12.510 --> 02:08:19.689 John Compton: All right, there's only a few more… a few things. I'm not gonna… I don't really have much to review on the annual town meeting. 1033 02:08:20.080 --> 02:08:38.420 John Compton: Just, wanted to say that, much appreciation should go to Melissa Amold, and, it's not Albert, I'll change that to… her name escapes me at the moment. The two… two of them from Montgomery Municipal Cable, who 1034 02:08:38.640 --> 02:08:42.859 John Compton: Provided the virtual attendees with the sound and video. 1035 02:08:43.370 --> 02:08:51.060 John Compton: And then for producing an edited annual town meeting video, and the link is in the agenda now. 1036 02:08:51.570 --> 02:08:56.359 John Compton: I haven't seen it because I just got the link this afternoon, late this afternoon. 1037 02:08:56.470 --> 02:08:59.300 John Compton: So you can re-live. 1038 02:08:59.630 --> 02:09:14.350 John Compton: Wow. Anytime. I get those warm fuzzies all over again, when you can't sleep. Okay, 1039 02:09:14.430 --> 02:09:25.790 John Compton: The stormwater infrastructure maintenance project update. Construction will begin this month. We're going to be having a pre-construction meeting. 1040 02:09:26.920 --> 02:09:28.540 John Compton: Hopefully this week. 1041 02:09:28.710 --> 02:09:40.529 John Compton: And, the first step in the… and at that pre-construction meeting, we'll be asking for a construction timeline, 1042 02:09:40.830 --> 02:09:54.700 John Compton: So we know where in town the work… roughly where and when the town work… the work's going to be done. They'll… first thing they do is stake out the, various areas where the work will be, so those will be appearing, 1043 02:09:55.020 --> 02:10:08.220 John Compton: Around town, and we're going to try and ensure that the work doesn't obstruct any roads or… or accesses any longer than necessary. 1044 02:10:08.330 --> 02:10:10.110 John Compton: Around town. 1045 02:10:11.960 --> 02:10:29.100 John Compton: And lastly, the… and it's… this is highlighted… forget it, you don't see it. The hard tennis court, as you know, we added $120,000 into the next year's budget. 1046 02:10:29.120 --> 02:10:34.030 John Compton: To provide for potentially replacing the entire hard court. 1047 02:10:34.890 --> 02:10:38.980 John Compton: Ripping it out and re, reinstalling it. 1048 02:10:39.290 --> 02:10:43.980 John Compton: Or, possibly only doing the cracks. 1049 02:10:44.720 --> 02:10:49.439 John Compton: And… and resurfacing, which would be considerably cheaper, but… 1050 02:10:49.810 --> 02:10:59.370 John Compton: until we decide what the Council decides what to do for the summer, we're going to go ahead with a fill, a crack filling. 1051 02:11:02.260 --> 02:11:17.070 John Compton: option to fill the larger cracks, and Mike Schenck and Jupiter Systems gave us a quote for a trial on 10 feet of a crack, and he's going to do that May 27th through 29th. 1052 02:11:17.280 --> 02:11:21.609 John Compton: The court will be closed during that period, will reopen on May 30th. 1053 02:11:21.790 --> 02:11:32.399 John Compton: And if that looks successful, we'll have to close the court again and do the remaining large cracks. He'll let me know. He'll let us know. 1054 02:11:32.770 --> 02:11:37.130 John Compton: How many… how much of the cracks can be… 1055 02:11:37.580 --> 02:11:41.730 John Compton: Repaired using this process, as opposed to a much more 1056 02:11:42.120 --> 02:11:48.470 John Compton: A much more long-term solution, which involves considerably more work and expense. 1057 02:11:49.690 --> 02:11:51.889 John Compton: And that's all I have to report. 1058 02:11:52.050 --> 02:11:56.329 John Compton: Anybody have any other questions regarding… Anything at all? 1059 02:11:58.240 --> 02:12:03.309 John Compton: Can I mention one quick thing going back to the town hall. 1060 02:12:03.430 --> 02:12:05.459 John Compton: You know, it, it, 1061 02:12:05.780 --> 02:12:15.739 John Compton: it probably… well, I know, it wouldn't have happened without the support from the mayor, and from Jeannie, and from others. So I want to say thank you very much. Yeah, it was a… 1062 02:12:16.170 --> 02:12:20.310 John Compton: Takes a town, not a village. Takes a town. 1063 02:12:20.510 --> 02:12:22.420 John Compton: Right. 1064 02:12:22.800 --> 02:12:25.320 John Compton: Okay, 1065 02:12:27.270 --> 02:12:42.930 John Compton: All right, I wanted to… the next item is new business, because Paul has a deadline, a time deadline, Paul Patron, and the Sustainability Committee, who originally proposed the Renewable Energy Conversion Incentive Program. 1066 02:12:44.310 --> 02:13:00.040 John Compton: has, has and has been tracking the effectiveness of that in reducing the town's carbon footprint, has… is… is proposing to slightly modify the program, and so, 1067 02:13:00.210 --> 02:13:16.579 John Compton: I… I… there was a resolution, in… in your packet. I'd like somebody to introduce that resolution. It's to, once again, to renew the… the… it's basically the same with updated information and some… 1068 02:13:16.580 --> 02:13:21.050 John Compton: Some diff… slight differences in the program you will hear once we introduce the 1069 02:13:21.220 --> 02:13:33.569 John Compton: Resolution. I'll make a motion, too. All right. Second? Second. Okay, Mary, Mary moved, and Chris seconded an introduction to Resolution 202604. 1070 02:13:34.160 --> 02:13:38.359 John Compton: So, paul, you're here, I take it. 1071 02:13:39.320 --> 02:13:40.320 John Compton: Somewhere. 1072 02:13:41.300 --> 02:13:44.650 John Compton: Song. He was. He was. 1073 02:13:50.510 --> 02:13:51.830 John Compton: Do I see him? 1074 02:13:52.010 --> 02:13:59.589 John Compton: His reference… the name's right there. I'll see him on there, dude. There he is, Paul Petty. Yeah, Paul Petty. 1075 02:14:00.140 --> 02:14:11.470 John Compton: I did say it would be around 8.30, so we're a little bit ahead. He'll, he'll be here, we can… we can continue along, and when he, when he, we'll, we'll… 1076 02:14:12.270 --> 02:14:27.750 John Compton: It's good to have somebody with power. That would be a fun account. Yeah. Hey, Paul. 1077 02:14:27.750 --> 02:14:30.850 Paul P: Hey, thanks for waiting. Sorry, I was reading stories. 1078 02:14:31.140 --> 02:14:31.620 John Compton: Not gonna happen. 1079 02:14:31.620 --> 02:14:33.979 Paul P: Narnia, if you want to hear that, as it said. 1080 02:14:35.710 --> 02:14:42.850 John Compton: Okay, I'm not sure you're able to always have… Who can search here? 1081 02:14:43.530 --> 02:14:44.460 John Compton: Okay. 1082 02:14:45.520 --> 02:14:48.740 John Compton: I fixed it. You should be able to share your screen. 1083 02:14:48.930 --> 02:14:49.870 John Compton: I made an. 1084 02:14:49.870 --> 02:14:50.350 Paul P: Oh, okay. 1085 02:14:50.350 --> 02:14:51.760 John Compton: So… 1086 02:14:53.610 --> 02:14:57.200 Paul P: Okay, oh, do I need to share it? Okay, give me one second. 1087 02:14:57.430 --> 02:14:59.350 John Compton: Oh, you want me to share it? I don't care. 1088 02:14:59.350 --> 02:15:01.620 Paul P: Yeah, if you can share, actually, that would… that would be easier. 1089 02:15:01.620 --> 02:15:04.649 John Compton: Yes, absolutely, I can, indeed. 1090 02:15:05.190 --> 02:15:06.840 John Compton: Yeah, I loved it. 1091 02:15:07.630 --> 02:15:13.790 John Compton: juggle, all these documents. Okay, here's the resolution. 1092 02:15:14.680 --> 02:15:15.790 John Compton: No. 1093 02:15:16.210 --> 02:15:21.059 John Compton: like to move it a bit, but not. I can make it a little bit bigger, so… 1094 02:15:22.090 --> 02:15:23.090 Paul P: That's fine. 1095 02:15:23.410 --> 02:15:23.790 John Compton: Okay. 1096 02:15:23.790 --> 02:15:26.509 Paul P: So… so the main, 1097 02:15:26.990 --> 02:15:39.119 Paul P: So, if people have questions, or anything in particular they want clarified, you know, I'm happy to start there, or if you want, I can just kind of give a brief overview of why we're introducing this today. 1098 02:15:41.470 --> 02:15:47.139 John Compton: I think that's a good idea. You can focus on the changes you're interested in. 1099 02:15:47.470 --> 02:15:51.360 Paul P: Okay, yeah, that's fine. So the main thing here is, 1100 02:15:51.510 --> 02:15:55.509 Paul P: We… so, after a couple years, 1101 02:15:55.540 --> 02:16:13.839 Paul P: We did the original, carbon estimate, footprint estimate back in 2021-22, and the original incentive that came out of that was based on that analysis, and one of the things we found, just to kind of recap, was that one of our biggest, 1102 02:16:13.840 --> 02:16:21.640 Paul P: sources of carbon emission in town, are actually the housing stock and the vehicles. And in particular, 1103 02:16:21.910 --> 02:16:41.499 Paul P: the heating, cooling, and electricity associated with the houses. And so, the goal of this incentive was to, incentivize people to switch to heat pumps, to switch to renewable electricity, and to purchase electric vehicles. So, the overall structure of this has stayed largely the same. 1104 02:16:41.500 --> 02:16:55.440 Paul P: There are a couple changes that we're introducing, in particular. The first is, after talking to a number of residents, there have been people, in particular folks with larger houses, that have, 1105 02:16:55.570 --> 02:16:59.769 Paul P: Installed heat pumps, but their… their heat pumps… 1106 02:17:00.110 --> 02:17:07.890 Paul P: installations didn't meet the requirements of the original program. So, in particular, one house I'm thinking of, 1107 02:17:07.959 --> 02:17:23.569 Paul P: installed a heat pump that covered about 50% of their house. It was quite a large house, so the, the actual carbon emissions reduction was quite significant, but because it didn't cover 100% of the house, it didn't qualify under the current program. 1108 02:17:23.709 --> 02:17:29.830 Paul P: We also have, someone who wants to install a heat pump. 1109 02:17:29.870 --> 02:17:33.940 Paul P: To replace, a resistance heating. 1110 02:17:33.940 --> 02:17:50.020 Paul P: And so the heat pump is obviously going to be a lot more efficient, so these are the types of things that we want to incentivize. So, the main changes to the program, that we're proposing this time around are that instead of, necessarily having the requirement that people 1111 02:17:50.900 --> 02:18:00.730 Paul P: heat their house 100% with a heat pump. We want to allow the possibility of people to, replace part of their heating system 1112 02:18:00.730 --> 02:18:11.230 Paul P: with a heat pump, provided they switch to renewable electricity. But in exchange, instead of, you know, giving people the full amount, what we want to do is we actually want to, 1113 02:18:11.360 --> 02:18:25.820 Paul P: Say, we're going to reimburse you, up to 10% of the cost of your system to a maximum of, and then depending on what type of conversion it is, either, $1,500, $1,000, or less. 1114 02:18:25.820 --> 02:18:34.220 Paul P: So that's the main change. We also want to allow people, as I mentioned, that have, resistance electric heating. 1115 02:18:34.219 --> 02:18:48.280 Paul P: to apply it if they have, if they're converting to heat pumps. And then we put in a clause, I think, that says, basically that if you're purchasing an electric vehicle, it's got to be for use in this area. So, for example, you can't buy a… 1116 02:18:48.389 --> 02:18:54.639 Paul P: an electric vehicle for your kid who lives in Montana and goes to school there. You know, it's got to be for residents in town. 1117 02:18:54.639 --> 02:19:09.920 Paul P: So those are really the main changes. I think John's showing some of them right now. This, this clause here at the top, any resident will be eligible for a rebate of 10% of the cost of the vehicle up to a maximum of… this is the new structure that we want to impose. 1118 02:19:09.920 --> 02:19:32.089 Paul P: This also comes from some observations that Gene made, where if someone buys a much less expensive electric vehicle, say it's $5,000, and we give them a $1,500 rebate, that's a huge rebate relative to the cost of the car, so it makes more sense to actually tie, what we're giving people to the cost of the system or the vehicle. 1119 02:19:32.090 --> 02:19:37.169 Paul P: Those are the main changes. Happy to answer questions, or if people need more details. 1120 02:19:38.820 --> 02:19:53.060 John Compton: Yeah, sounds great. I've heard a few, not criticisms, criticisms, but I'm not disappointed. You've mentioned some of those, and I really like the way you've covered this. Sounds… it really makes a lot of sense. 1121 02:19:56.080 --> 02:19:58.290 John Compton: All right, anybody else? Questions for you? 1122 02:19:58.520 --> 02:19:59.480 John Compton: Wonderful. 1123 02:19:59.970 --> 02:20:02.799 John Compton: All right, thanks, stay there, we'll, 1124 02:20:02.930 --> 02:20:14.390 John Compton: Is there any further discussion of, renewing the, this amended… Plan… 1125 02:20:18.510 --> 02:20:28.259 John Compton: Okay, hearing none, then let's ask the Council to vote on approving Resolution 2604. 1126 02:20:28.530 --> 02:20:31.899 John Compton: And let me get rid of this so I can actually see Barbara. 1127 02:20:32.030 --> 02:20:33.160 John Compton: There we go. 1128 02:20:33.260 --> 02:20:40.570 John Compton: All in favor, then? Yeah, all right, that looks like unanimous. All right, the program's approved as… 1129 02:20:40.840 --> 02:20:45.219 John Compton: As described in, the resolution with it. 1130 02:20:45.330 --> 02:20:49.149 John Compton: Can I just make a comment? The incredible, 1131 02:20:49.360 --> 02:20:57.939 John Compton: resources that we have in this town, and the Sustainability Committee works tirelessly to do this, and Paul in particular has spent 1132 02:20:58.150 --> 02:21:05.219 John Compton: Untold hours putting together these components, gathering the information, and we're so lucky to have 1133 02:21:05.490 --> 02:21:10.989 John Compton: you know, people with his skills to… willing to donate it to us. Really, really appreciate it. 1134 02:21:11.380 --> 02:21:12.280 John Compton: Yes. 1135 02:21:14.400 --> 02:21:24.469 Paul P: Yeah, of course. It really has been a group effort. I mean, I've done some of the work, but pretty much everyone on the committee's contributed in some way. So, you know, thanks to the whole committee, honestly. 1136 02:21:25.790 --> 02:21:35.250 John Compton: I think one of… I do want to comment that one of Paul's innovative But… poorly received. 1137 02:21:35.700 --> 02:21:36.980 John Compton: ideas. 1138 02:21:37.200 --> 02:21:41.629 John Compton: Was to install one of the new, smaller 1139 02:21:42.300 --> 02:22:00.960 John Compton: nuclear generating systems under Woodward Park. They're roughly that size, at least some of the proposals. Unfortunately, the transmission wires and everything else that comes along with a 1140 02:22:01.080 --> 02:22:02.789 John Compton: A facility like that. 1141 02:22:03.120 --> 02:22:06.399 John Compton: It's much more expensive, so… 1142 02:22:07.360 --> 02:22:14.699 John Compton: Anyway, thanks, Paul. So, I don't know if you're kidding or not. But you… speaking of that. 1143 02:22:15.060 --> 02:22:21.810 John Compton: Do you remember one year… one year when I was running for mayor, and I was unopposed, some of you were definitely here. 1144 02:22:21.860 --> 02:22:35.910 John Compton: And we were still engaged in a big controversy over the meadow, and the development, and what it would be used for, and whatever. So I ran with my campaign poster. 1145 02:22:35.910 --> 02:22:48.790 John Compton: of putting the Compton Brewery… as the best use. It must have been the best use. But yet, that hasn't happened. Yeah. 1146 02:22:48.920 --> 02:22:57.459 John Compton: Okay. You didn't keep your campaign promise. It's not the only idea. The Sustainability Committee was also responsible for a proposal to 1147 02:22:57.580 --> 02:23:11.749 John Compton: create a solar panel farm on the lower meadow. The county couldn't get the county to buy into it. So they've had a lot of interesting ideas. This is, you know. 1148 02:23:11.890 --> 02:23:23.479 John Compton: you know, converting from oil to, electric, renewable energy is… is not the only, only ideas. Thanks, Paul, and the resolution was passed. 1149 02:23:24.530 --> 02:23:26.850 John Compton: Alright, on to administrative matters. 1150 02:23:28.470 --> 02:23:41.190 John Compton: First item, as you know, we, have engaged in a far-reaching, extensive search for a new town administrator, and, 1151 02:23:41.920 --> 02:23:46.209 John Compton: the, the, the… the search committee… 1152 02:23:46.510 --> 02:23:55.940 John Compton: which was also the Job Description Committee, and will be the Job Performance Review Committee. 1153 02:23:56.210 --> 02:24:06.099 John Compton: We consisted of, Barbara, Mary, Peter, myself, and Jean Moyer. Spent countless hours 1154 02:24:06.290 --> 02:24:10.159 John Compton: On this, and we were overwhelmed with applications. 1155 02:24:10.400 --> 02:24:11.250 John Compton: overwhelming. 1156 02:24:12.230 --> 02:24:20.140 John Compton: Many of which were… From individuals who had been let go from the federal government, and we're… 1157 02:24:21.920 --> 02:24:34.160 John Compton: kind of siloed in their… in their experience, probably way overqualified for this particular position. And we actually have seven 1158 02:24:34.920 --> 02:24:37.049 John Compton: Town residents apply. 1159 02:24:37.090 --> 02:24:55.009 John Compton: to be for town… the town administrator position. But Anna Bark, here, maybe, Anna, you can step… are you in view? You're in view. So, Anna lives at 201 Washington Grove Lane. 1160 02:24:55.800 --> 02:24:57.639 John Compton: Next to Marilyn Frey. 1161 02:24:57.780 --> 02:25:12.869 John Compton: You… you're a resident for how long? 4 months. 4 months. So, yeah, she knew she had to move into town to be seriously considered. 1162 02:25:12.900 --> 02:25:18.940 John Compton: Anyway, yeah, so we are excited to have Anna, 1163 02:25:19.300 --> 02:25:22.440 John Compton: Take on this job, which… 1164 02:25:22.650 --> 02:25:31.669 John Compton: Peter, you want to describe how it's… the… the expectations for this job could be fulfilled by 2 or 3 people? 1165 02:25:32.220 --> 02:25:44.590 John Compton: And beyond just one, so, Anna's gonna do her best to be two or three people. All right. 1166 02:25:44.590 --> 02:25:53.520 John Compton: Thanks. For those of us who never saw this process, can you give us a little bit of your background? 1167 02:25:53.860 --> 02:26:03.259 John Compton: Yeah, so I come from a military background, with some administrative duties, kind of going around full circle. 1168 02:26:03.260 --> 02:26:18.020 John Compton: I'm really excited to come in and help a lot of the organization and learning, and I'm really excited to get to know all of you. I've heard that there's a lot of good knowledge to be passed on, but I do come from more of, like, that kind of 1169 02:26:19.070 --> 02:26:23.800 John Compton: It's more administrative, kind of, supply, demand, things like that. 1170 02:26:28.050 --> 02:26:30.140 John Compton: Right. Thank you. 1171 02:26:30.650 --> 02:26:33.079 John Compton: Yeah, I thought of putting her resume on. 1172 02:26:33.830 --> 02:26:40.459 John Compton: making it generally available, I decided against it, and then… but, if you'd like to see it. I'd like to see the original plugins, yeah. 1173 02:26:43.010 --> 02:26:44.070 John Compton: Okay. 1174 02:26:44.280 --> 02:26:51.489 John Compton: Alright, the next, item of business is one, is, is a proclamation. 1175 02:26:51.840 --> 02:26:56.980 John Compton: Which, we have been doing for a number of years. 1176 02:26:57.130 --> 02:27:04.179 John Compton: I'm gonna put… put it up. This is… this is to declare, the first Friday of June. 1177 02:27:04.460 --> 02:27:08.730 John Compton: Could be Washington Grove Gun Violence Awareness Day. 1178 02:27:09.110 --> 02:27:13.789 John Compton: And they… as soon as… let me get it up here. 1179 02:27:14.890 --> 02:27:17.670 John Compton: It's the right screen, I'm sure I can get it up. 1180 02:27:21.310 --> 02:27:25.120 John Compton: Anyway, here it is, and 1181 02:27:25.590 --> 02:27:38.669 John Compton: I hope everyone will read it. It recites the appalling number of gun-related deaths in the country and in the state. 1182 02:27:39.720 --> 02:27:50.799 John Compton: the recognition of this day as, as, as, as Gun Violence Awareness Day was, came about, 1183 02:27:51.080 --> 02:27:58.970 John Compton: was promoted when a young lady named Hadia Pendleton was shot and killed at the age of 15. 1184 02:27:59.550 --> 02:28:05.200 John Compton: in 2013, and this, 1185 02:28:07.290 --> 02:28:12.300 John Compton: Her… her, death and the… 1186 02:28:12.470 --> 02:28:25.089 John Compton: involvement of guns, tragic death, is the rationale, is one of the reasons to, set a day of recognition. You, 1187 02:28:25.490 --> 02:28:30.750 John Compton: One of the things people are asked to do is wear orange on this day. 1188 02:28:31.130 --> 02:28:33.820 John Compton: Orange, of course, is the safety color. 1189 02:28:33.930 --> 02:28:40.920 John Compton: For hunters, for… to… You know, when there are people with guns walking around. 1190 02:28:41.250 --> 02:28:55.479 John Compton: And we, we have, we have put orange lights, here at the hall, and some once or twice in the, in the, gazebo as well. So, 1191 02:28:56.060 --> 02:28:58.610 John Compton: I'd like the Council to consider, 1192 02:28:59.510 --> 02:29:07.149 John Compton: approving this. I, of course, will issue a proclamation in my name, but I'd like it to be in the Council… in the town's name. 1193 02:29:07.580 --> 02:29:11.369 John Compton: So… Mary… Second. 1194 02:29:11.640 --> 02:29:25.849 John Compton: Mary is moving, and Peter is seconding, the proclamation that the June 5th, 2026 will be, Washington Grove Gun Awareness Day. 1195 02:29:27.620 --> 02:29:28.900 John Compton: All in favor? 1196 02:29:29.590 --> 02:29:31.530 John Compton: Okay, thank you. 1197 02:29:31.830 --> 02:29:37.809 John Compton: All right. My Halloween lights. Right. Yeah. 1198 02:29:38.370 --> 02:29:48.509 John Compton: Somewhere. All right, next item of, of, administrative business is, an appointment to the Planning Commission. 1199 02:29:48.780 --> 02:29:56.670 John Compton: Did I forget to put Marner Church's? No, I think I did. Yes. So, 1200 02:29:56.840 --> 02:30:00.470 John Compton: So, I am proposing to appoint Margaret Church. 1201 02:30:00.760 --> 02:30:04.500 John Compton: Two, as the Alternate Planning Commissioner. 1202 02:30:05.020 --> 02:30:13.889 John Compton: The term will be, for 5 years. Nobody ever lasts 5 years as Alternate Commissioner. Right. 1203 02:30:14.030 --> 02:30:20.059 John Compton: That's usually… That sounds ominous. Usually, they get promoted into the full comedian. 1204 02:30:21.030 --> 02:30:22.649 John Compton: Well before that time. 1205 02:30:22.980 --> 02:30:29.069 John Compton: So, it counts out of, 1206 02:30:29.460 --> 02:30:37.669 John Compton: is directed to either confirm or deny. I strongly recommend her… she's been to all of the meetings, and 1207 02:30:38.020 --> 02:30:40.470 John Compton: Would be a great alternate. 1208 02:30:41.950 --> 02:30:43.979 John Compton: Agreed. There you have it. 1209 02:30:44.210 --> 02:30:47.320 John Compton: Okay, sorry, I'm thinking away. 1210 02:30:47.640 --> 02:30:51.109 John Compton: Okay, any other comments? All in favor of the appointment? 1211 02:30:51.680 --> 02:30:53.680 John Compton: All right, that's unanimous. 1212 02:30:55.320 --> 02:31:04.069 John Compton: All right, here's where Peter requested to do a 30-second commercial. Yeah, it's 4 sentences. Yeah, and the reason is that 1213 02:31:04.620 --> 02:31:14.800 John Compton: I really wanted to, at the town meeting, talk about the commercial corner and what's happening, and nothing has been going on for a long time, and I… 1214 02:31:14.930 --> 02:31:21.929 John Compton: it's a very expensive project to put housing on there, to do everything, and I really believe that 1215 02:31:21.930 --> 02:31:35.300 John Compton: they basically decided not to go forward with this, which would make sense to me. And I just got this email today, just a little while ago. I'm just going to read this from the… this is the architect, it says, hi Peter. Sorry for the delay, we just received the survey work. 1216 02:31:35.310 --> 02:31:52.729 John Compton: from the civil engineer. This is an important piece of schematic design process. Over the next few weeks, we will continue developing the schematic design floor plans and exterior design. I will keep you posted as we progress. We are looking forward to presenting our vision to the town. 1217 02:31:52.730 --> 02:31:57.049 John Compton: So, it sounds like, you know, they… they've invested a lot 1218 02:31:57.310 --> 02:32:06.199 John Compton: into this. It also says… oh, I'm gonna say… I won't say this. It also says that he's returning some drawings I lent to him, so Kathy knows that you're gonna get those back. 1219 02:32:06.400 --> 02:32:24.319 John Compton: So I think it's pretty exciting that they are going to move forward with this, and it sounds like it'll be in our lifetime, and they're going to see something. All these architects working on it. Yeah, yeah, they're paying money, so that's a good… that's a good sign. Okay, thank you. Okay, well, that's 43 seconds. 1220 02:32:25.700 --> 02:32:26.730 John Compton: Alrighty. 1221 02:32:27.340 --> 02:32:39.829 John Compton: All right, next item of business is, unfinished business. Last, on April 13th, we introduced the, ordinance that we had the public hearing on. 1222 02:32:39.930 --> 02:32:44.289 John Compton: Earlier tonight, adopting the town budget and the tax rates. 1223 02:32:44.760 --> 02:32:54.260 John Compton: So, this is the point at which the Council moves ahead to adopt that ordinance. It already has been introduced. 1224 02:32:54.480 --> 02:33:02.010 John Compton: Jane… Did… did I get the revised… is she still here? Did I get the revised version? 1225 02:33:02.400 --> 02:33:05.079 Jean Moyer: I've sent it to, I think, twice. 1226 02:33:06.980 --> 02:33:15.260 John Compton: Did I get it 3 times? Okay, well, we're going to be approving the… final version. 1227 02:33:15.380 --> 02:33:25.459 John Compton: Which is to make sure it corresponds to what the budget was approved. No other fiddling, it just needs… the numbers need to be the same. The… the, 1228 02:33:25.760 --> 02:33:29.090 John Compton: The ordinance only is the summary page. 1229 02:33:29.330 --> 02:33:34.280 John Compton: The detailed line items are not part of the, are not part of this ordinance. 1230 02:33:35.960 --> 02:33:41.880 John Compton: Okay, any, any further comments, on the ordinance? And we'll move to a vote. 1231 02:33:44.360 --> 02:33:48.330 John Compton: All in favor of this ordinance? Thank you. Unanimous. 1232 02:33:48.470 --> 02:33:49.230 John Compton: Done. 1233 02:33:49.870 --> 02:33:56.629 John Compton: All right, we have one item of new business that we know about, and, it was in your, 1234 02:33:56.750 --> 02:34:02.449 John Compton: materials. Resolution 2026-05, 1235 02:34:02.920 --> 02:34:17.559 John Compton: drive… and I brief… you can read the actual title on the ordinance, but it's the driveway access to Macaulay Avenue for block 18, about 234, 5, and 6. 1236 02:34:18.500 --> 02:34:30.490 John Compton: And this is proposed, by the Planning Commission. I'm gonna… Peter, do you want to introduce this? Sure. I can definitely show the… 1237 02:34:31.100 --> 02:34:47.399 John Compton: details, if you're getting into them, which you should. So, we need this introduced, Rudolph. Peter's proposing introduction? Yeah, so am I, am I… I'm making the, I'm proposing, you want me to just give an intro, too, first? 1238 02:34:47.440 --> 02:34:51.539 John Compton: Or just… does everybody get to see what the Planning Commission… 1239 02:34:51.720 --> 02:34:57.299 John Compton: I didn't see it. I talked to you about it, though. Do you know about this? Yeah. 1240 02:34:57.400 --> 02:35:00.969 John Compton: Yeah. Yeah, so it's basically… 1241 02:35:01.680 --> 02:35:18.159 John Compton: This has been something that kind of bugged me for a long time, is that 6th Avenue, which is on the right side of the Charles Truth house, goes all the way through to… No, wait, first, we are talking about… Should we put in motion? Charleston property. I'll do a motion first, right? 1242 02:35:18.200 --> 02:35:36.340 John Compton: We need to introduce it. Yeah, a motion… okay, a motion to accept resolution 202605. Introduce it. Introduce it. Introduce it. Introduce it, sorry. Okay, I'll second. It's in our… it's in the meeting materials, and 1243 02:35:36.880 --> 02:35:52.439 John Compton: Peter's going to explain what the resolution is intended to do. And just this resolution, not the big picture. So, originally, there was a resolution in 1992-03, which 1244 02:35:52.960 --> 02:35:58.209 John Compton: allowed access to where the Charleston's property is, in the back. 1245 02:35:58.380 --> 02:36:04.300 John Compton: And… and the whole point was to go around… there was a… there's two lots. There's a lot… 1246 02:36:04.600 --> 02:36:15.580 John Compton: There's… the first 50 feet is town property, then there's 2 lots, which is a separate lot from Charles. Then there's 3 lots behind that, which is Charles Drive's property. 1247 02:36:15.690 --> 02:36:34.099 John Compton: And the, Resolution 199203 allowed the Charleston to use our, six avenues to access their property, and not have to go across, theoretically, go across lots 2 and 3, which were a separate lot. 1248 02:36:35.430 --> 02:36:39.010 John Compton: And this resolution also, 1249 02:36:39.560 --> 02:36:55.779 John Compton: said that they would not be using Fifth Avenue. Instead of using Fifth Avenue, which is on the left side of Charleston's property, they would just be using the right side to go through. Now, 6th Avenue goes all the way through… goes all the way through the Boundary Street. 1250 02:36:56.410 --> 02:37:02.429 John Compton: But instead of allowing that walkway and access for people going to Boundary Street and back. 1251 02:37:02.500 --> 02:37:16.530 John Compton: there's a… there's a Charleston Trail, I think it's called, that goes all the ways… you know, goes around that… that area. So what we're basically asking is, since there's a triggering event, that's what the… that the Tenant Commission uses, since there's a triggering event. 1252 02:37:16.610 --> 02:37:20.120 John Compton: With the house being sold, we would like to… 1253 02:37:20.250 --> 02:37:29.239 John Compton: revoke this 1992 resolution with this new resolution, and restore 6th Avenue as a walkway only. 1254 02:37:31.220 --> 02:37:34.439 John Compton: Alright, I'm not gonna say anything about 50. That's right. Okay. 1255 02:37:34.640 --> 02:37:35.989 John Compton: Is that good enough? 1256 02:37:36.760 --> 02:37:42.890 John Compton: That's… that was the gist of it. Why are you not going to say anything about Fusaden? Is this more conflict? 1257 02:37:43.490 --> 02:37:49.119 John Compton: You know, I mean, I… I would… I'd like to just get it all done right now, honestly. 1258 02:37:49.540 --> 02:38:03.380 John Compton: So, yeah, what I would… what I would like to… we can talk about it, though. Well, I'm just… I'm eager about why you're… But we literally… Fifth Avenue will… we want to make Fifth Avenue… it is a walkway, and so there's a piece of property 1259 02:38:03.950 --> 02:38:07.809 John Compton: It's on here, right? Lot, what is it, Lot 7? 1260 02:38:07.970 --> 02:38:09.979 John Compton: Right there, yeah. A lot 6. 1261 02:38:10.090 --> 02:38:27.839 John Compton: No, lot 7. Lot 7… There's a lot 7 behind lot 6. Right, which is town… thanks, thank you. Lot 7 is town property, right? Lot 7, there it is. Lot 7 and 1 are town property. Right. So, you could actually walk up 6th Avenue, take a left, go across lot 7, 1262 02:38:27.840 --> 02:38:47.489 John Compton: hit Fifth Avenue, and come back. That's all town property. Right. And that's ideally what we'd like to, develop, because right now, we're not using 5th or 6th. Yeah. So the question is… the real question is, if we take away 6th Avenue, we need to get… allow access to 1263 02:38:47.520 --> 02:38:55.740 John Compton: the Charleston's, but both, basically, the property's going to be subdivided. It's going to be Charleston's property, and then the lots 2 and 3, there's going to be 1264 02:38:55.780 --> 02:39:14.349 John Compton: another house built. So the question is, what driveways are going to be allowed to have access? Is that… is that the actual plan? Is that the person that's… Yeah, yeah, he's already purchased it, or he's… I know there's under contract. Yeah, he's gonna have another house then. I mean, don't… there are two… 1265 02:39:16.250 --> 02:39:17.490 John Compton: Two separate… 1266 02:39:17.850 --> 02:39:31.859 John Compton: I see there's no driveway, if you take… It's the… and these blue markers indicate this, this, this, rectangle is the property in front of the house, and that's a separate… 1267 02:39:32.460 --> 02:39:33.770 John Compton: Available lot. 1268 02:39:34.130 --> 02:39:37.689 John Compton: From the rear property, which is the three sublots. 1269 02:39:38.110 --> 02:39:45.680 John Compton: The existing situation is that a circular driveway crosses… 1270 02:39:45.850 --> 02:39:52.280 John Compton: onto 6th Avenue, goes in front, up to the house, this is the garage, comes around back. 1271 02:39:52.400 --> 02:40:07.119 John Compton: and then goes on to Fifth Avenue, and there are two exits entrances. Right. And there's one other thing to consider, Tiff, is that Resolution 1992 said that the only reason why that resolution was passed was that 1272 02:40:07.210 --> 02:40:23.609 John Compton: they could leave… this lot, theoretically, wasn't owned by this house, right? So, this drive… their driveway was supposed to go like this, bypass this lot, and go like this, but they never… this is the original driveway. 1273 02:40:23.700 --> 02:40:38.240 John Compton: The resolution was for them to allow them to do this. But they never did. That was never done. That's the part I didn't understand about from that resolution. Yeah, it was never done, and the resolution says that they will discontinue using Fifth Avenue, which never happened. 1274 02:40:38.260 --> 02:40:52.729 John Compton: So, all this… yeah, so all this time… I mean, this, it's… you know, I have no problem with that. The real question is, do we allow them to continue using Fifth Avenue, or should they… 1275 02:40:52.950 --> 02:41:03.780 John Compton: Basically, now that one person owns all that property, tell them they have to use their property to have access to the two houses, and then have a joint driveway on their property. 1276 02:41:04.230 --> 02:41:09.220 John Compton: On the left side, or wherever they want to put it, but on their property, not using town property. 1277 02:41:09.640 --> 02:41:23.320 John Compton: And we don't have to, I guess, decide that tonight, but if we just say, you know, if we want to say that, it's a triggering event, use your own property. So you're gonna… We're done with it. So you're gonna make them… 1278 02:41:23.770 --> 02:41:48.680 John Compton: come in from Macaulay, and then immediately go on to Lot 2? I'm not making them do anything. Well, I mean, that's… No, I'm not… They have to have access someplace, but they can't go through lot… lot 1. Yeah, they can. No, that's our property. No, but everybody, everybody… We could give them easement to go through there. Everybody… all the houses along Macaulay on that side, have 50… have the same 50 feet. 1279 02:41:49.550 --> 02:42:10.469 John Compton: of town property in front of them. Oh, okay. That 50 feet goes all the way down to Washington Grove Lane. And so that's, you know, that's not… that's not an issue. Okay, so you're saying you're going to make them go through Lot 1 to access both houses? Well, my concern is that the house is sold, this person is making decisions about what he's going to do, and the longer we… 1280 02:42:10.470 --> 02:42:11.440 John Compton: weight. 1281 02:42:11.440 --> 02:42:17.070 John Compton: on whatever, It's gonna be difficult for all parties. 1282 02:42:17.400 --> 02:42:22.989 John Compton: So, it's… do we want to be nice and allow them to continue what they have, or do we want to… 1283 02:42:23.460 --> 02:42:29.460 John Compton: you know, take our property back. But originally, it was supposed to be done, right? But was never done. 1284 02:42:30.120 --> 02:42:40.679 John Compton: And the original residence. Right, right. So we're just… Well, originally they were… originally they were allowed to use 6th Avenue. Right, so we're just reinforcing, in the way, the original… On 5th Avenue. Yeah. 1285 02:42:41.290 --> 02:42:45.649 John Compton: I guess. Well, so… yeah. So what is it? So… 1286 02:42:45.650 --> 02:43:02.839 John Compton: Sustinctly describe the proposal of resolving this issue in the Planning Commission's mind. What's succinctly being proposed? Well, we had looked at joint… joint sharing, basically allow what's already there as a possibility. 1287 02:43:03.210 --> 02:43:08.619 John Compton: And then, and then, ideally, they could… 1288 02:43:08.910 --> 02:43:14.880 John Compton: That would be… that would be access to Charleston's house, and then for the lots 2 and 3, 1289 02:43:15.350 --> 02:43:23.869 John Compton: separate driveway or share Fifth Avenue. But the Planning Commission was really only, you know, first steps, so first steps. First step was 1290 02:43:23.870 --> 02:43:37.550 John Compton: what we're agreeing on here. Is reclaiming 6. Yeah, that's, that's, like, the top priority, and having… Is that the only thing this resolution is dealing with? Yeah. 6th Avenue? Yeah, so the Planning Commission, what we, what we would like is 6th Avenue. 1291 02:43:37.750 --> 02:43:42.470 John Compton: to go through the Boundary Street, and a walkway on 5th Avenue. 1292 02:43:42.790 --> 02:43:54.339 John Compton: That will connect to the town property in Lot 7, and then connect you also back to 6. But the walkway and the 5th Avenue will also be part of the driveway. No, that's… that's… that's up to the council. 1293 02:43:54.640 --> 02:44:13.270 John Compton: So you haven't… you haven't really resolved what to do about the primary driveway going down Fifth Avenue yet? No, because it's not really… it's really… it's really not a, if you get there from 6th Avenue. Really, a council has to decide. The… the property is currently unoccupied. Right. 1294 02:44:13.550 --> 02:44:19.880 John Compton: All right? So, the Planning Commission would like to, reverse 1295 02:44:20.040 --> 02:44:32.359 John Compton: the use of 6th Avenue to start for access to either property. Gotcha. So that's what this resolution does. Right, right. The use of Fifth Avenue 1296 02:44:33.530 --> 02:44:43.930 John Compton: isn't addressed. But if this resolution passes, because it revokes the 1992, it would mean that there's no… 1297 02:44:44.130 --> 02:44:48.620 John Compton: There's no… the town has not granted use of Fifth Avenue. 1298 02:44:48.900 --> 02:44:50.360 John Compton: Has a driveway. 1299 02:44:50.610 --> 02:44:58.809 John Compton: Something will have to be done about giving the rear lot access to… Macaulay Street. 1300 02:44:59.740 --> 02:45:02.040 John Compton: Alright? The obvious solution 1301 02:45:02.320 --> 02:45:14.080 John Compton: is a shared driveway. We've done that on Ridge Road, you know, for a number of those lots. They use a shared driveway on private property, so the town has no responsibility for it. 1302 02:45:14.410 --> 02:45:22.310 John Compton: a single driveway. So, the remaining question is, and the Planning Commission talked about it, and actually 1303 02:45:25.920 --> 02:45:30.589 John Compton: thought to move ahead was to grant an easement to use Fifth Avenue. 1304 02:45:31.370 --> 02:45:35.420 John Compton: This does not say that. Okay. Mostly because I objected. 1305 02:45:35.740 --> 02:45:40.390 John Compton: I didn't see any reason to, use Fifth Avenue. 1306 02:45:40.790 --> 02:45:50.130 John Compton: Unless there is some practical limitation of using part of lots 2 and 3 to… 1307 02:45:50.350 --> 02:46:05.589 John Compton: put the shared driveway. So if you just think of moving that driveway off of Fifth Avenue, come up straight out, it's on private property, we get back all of Fifth Avenue, no easements are required, and since there's a single property owner, it sounds to me 1308 02:46:05.820 --> 02:46:14.289 John Compton: Straightforward, that that should become the access for… For both those properties. 1309 02:46:15.310 --> 02:46:16.830 John Compton: So basically. 1310 02:46:17.940 --> 02:46:36.179 John Compton: We… we don't really have to do… we… all we have to do is rescind that, and we have nothing else. Then, theoretically, they have to use… Well, they have to come to you and ask, how are we going to get our, access to the property? Right, right. You're going to have to decide how to do that. Right. Okay. Yeah. Okay. 1311 02:46:36.560 --> 02:46:41.249 John Compton: Good. I'm so excited. Okay. Can we move now to accept now? 1312 02:46:42.000 --> 02:46:52.740 John Compton: we can move to pass the resolution. That resolution does not require any, I move to pass residing. The only thing against that, Nick, is that something of this… 1313 02:46:55.040 --> 02:46:56.970 John Compton: potential controversy. 1314 02:46:57.330 --> 02:47:09.950 John Compton: I'm not saying… the property owner might not like it. Charlie might have something we haven't thought of. Maybe there are two very, very valuable trees in the way of… 1315 02:47:10.120 --> 02:47:24.020 John Compton: this. I'm making this up. But usually, all that to say that we… that for something like this, I always recommend that we introduce the resolution, we ask for public comment, and we plan to act on it at the next meeting. 1316 02:47:27.270 --> 02:47:40.610 John Compton: I would agree there needs to be a public comment on that. Yeah, it's just an… I was… I was seeing my motion. You never know what will, what will, 1317 02:47:41.250 --> 02:47:57.600 John Compton: cause some controversy to appear. Okay. This way, we… we do our best to sidestep. I think the fact that they're planning… the person that's buying this, the Charleston house, is planning on building on those two lots… Yeah. …is… 1318 02:47:57.990 --> 02:48:05.220 John Compton: It just… it makes, I think it makes my decision this very easy. Yeah, I know. Yeah. 1319 02:48:06.200 --> 02:48:12.949 John Compton: Right. If that wasn't… if they were going to keep all that land as it is, because that's a beautiful… 1320 02:48:13.560 --> 02:48:23.159 John Compton: part of the town. It's just… it's just stunning, and they've kept it so nice over the years. Yeah. It's… I don't know, I don't know how I feel about it, but… 1321 02:48:24.310 --> 02:48:28.890 John Compton: valuable to them. I can't imagine there's going to be negative community feedback. 1322 02:48:30.330 --> 02:48:41.970 John Compton: No, all we're doing is, right now, we're just taking… Just reclaiming 6th Avenue, and no matter what happens, we want that. That would affect any decisions over there, too. So, good, alright. 1323 02:48:43.470 --> 02:48:55.800 John Compton: All right, so, did I… So what's the next… so the next steps is somebody… Prefer action on this resolution… Right. …ill the next council meeting, which is only in a few weeks. 1324 02:48:56.100 --> 02:49:01.130 John Compton: So, is somebody gonna officially talk to the Challstroms, or to the realtor? 1325 02:49:01.610 --> 02:49:09.280 John Compton: He's under contract now. Yeah, I know. About this, about this, though. Somebody should be the Planning Commission. 1326 02:49:09.690 --> 02:49:17.450 John Compton: Because you guys have to resolve… The configuration of… Construction on the… 1327 02:49:17.950 --> 02:49:20.800 John Compton: A driveway needs to be provided. 1328 02:49:21.390 --> 02:49:30.570 John Compton: So you guys are gonna have to do that. But that doesn't really have anything to do with this… with this resolution. No, I mean, talking to the property, the buyer. 1329 02:49:30.610 --> 02:49:46.170 John Compton: You're going to be talking to the buyer anyway. We are talking to the buyer now, yeah. Well, then just say that, you know, you can just lay it out for him. Alright. That, you know… Okay, well, so we will. Use of the town's walkways. We're trying to restore the walkways. 1330 02:49:46.170 --> 02:49:52.530 John Compton: Right. And use of that as the driveway, you know, is being rescinded. 1331 02:49:52.660 --> 02:49:55.030 John Compton: And, you know, you should plan on… 1332 02:49:56.030 --> 02:50:11.829 John Compton: you know, creating a shared driveway. This is what we recommend. Okay, okay. And they can… they can come with whatever they think will work. So, is there going to be an opportunity for public comment on this, too? Yes, that's what I was saying. That's what we're doing now, is delaying because of that. Right. But it's not just… 1333 02:50:12.340 --> 02:50:28.230 John Compton: Council talking to… No, it's a public purchaser. No, no, no, I'll put it… it'll be in the bulletin, and I can even do an alert, but certainly in the bulletin will be… you know how I've been doing the public notice, comment requested on whatever? Yeah. 1334 02:50:28.380 --> 02:50:41.520 John Compton: If John gets the website, his act together on the website, we'll get it. You have a day or two. Oh my gosh! Alright. The gauntlet has been thrown down. 1335 02:50:41.730 --> 02:50:49.510 John Compton: Okay, so the sense of the Council is to defer action until the, the next Okay. 1336 02:50:49.760 --> 02:51:01.950 John Compton: Thank you. Thank you. That was great. Alrighty, so we're just about at the end of the meeting. There's no Town Council reports, because there was just the annual Town Council reports. Just, 1337 02:51:02.350 --> 02:51:09.410 John Compton: A little over a week ago. So, the next meeting, is, on Monday, June 8th. 1338 02:51:10.290 --> 02:51:11.890 John Compton: at 7.30. 1339 02:51:12.430 --> 02:51:22.769 John Compton: I don't think we have any public hearings, So… It will start at 7.30? 1340 02:51:23.200 --> 02:51:32.430 John Compton: Any last words? Yeah, circle fast. Everybody, bring your families, bring your friends, bring the umbrella. Oh my god, we'll figure it out. 1341 02:51:33.580 --> 02:51:42.289 John Compton: It's gonna rain every day from now. The weather… they don't take any… they don't take any chances anymore, they just put down rain every day. 1342 02:51:43.350 --> 02:51:44.420 John Compton: Okay. Alright. 1343 02:51:44.580 --> 02:51:48.529 John Compton: And meetings are true. Great, wow. 1344 02:51:49.620 --> 02:51:57.380 John Compton: I didn't fall asleep, I didn't eat caffeine, that was great. Even 9 o'clock. I know! 1345 02:51:57.720 --> 02:52:11.699 John Compton: 8.52. How is that possible? 852. You conducted a very efficient unit. Fantastic! It's like an hour or less. Don't get used to these quickly. Yeah, well, that's because… there's one piece… 1346 02:52:12.500 --> 02:52:20.560 John Compton: Barbara, so… Yeah, the name of Polson Quest Divine. 1347 02:52:21.510 --> 02:52:26.229 John Compton: Property that is encountering on her porch property, a town property. 1348 02:52:27.080 --> 02:52:34.230 John Compton: For which we… we've been selling. Who's asking for this? Bolstman. 1349 02:52:34.960 --> 02:52:45.810 John Compton: Oh, either! Yeah. Oh, that, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so the, so they, you know, we've done this… Yeah. …three or four times. 1350 02:52:46.000 --> 02:52:53.999 John Compton: We create… create a ordinance declaring this bit of property, which is 1351 02:52:54.200 --> 02:52:59.579 John Compton: which their structure encroaches on the town land. We sell it to them. 1352 02:53:00.380 --> 02:53:06.780 John Compton: I mean, we create an ordinance declaring it surplus, we… B. 1353 02:53:06.900 --> 02:53:12.499 John Compton: HPC… Has created a, 1354 02:53:13.050 --> 02:53:23.809 John Compton: A description of why the house is historic, and what you… why the, the new property cannot be used to, 1355 02:53:24.000 --> 02:53:38.659 John Compton: to do a lot of things, you can't use the… this property, we're going to sell them. Build a little house. And then… and then… and… and they can… they now get a restricted… basically an easement. It's really an easement. 1356 02:53:38.810 --> 02:53:41.420 John Compton: On… on that property forever. 1357 02:53:41.850 --> 02:53:44.430 John Compton: So, we… we had a series… 1358 02:53:46.210 --> 02:53:56.909 John Compton: When we were talking to Suellen, I mentioned the surveying of the town property, and we did the survey around the circle, all those blocks were done first. 1359 02:53:57.110 --> 02:54:02.209 John Compton: That created, private property boundaries moved. 1360 02:54:03.060 --> 02:54:06.860 John Compton: Some… a bit, and that put a bunch of structures. 1361 02:54:07.070 --> 02:54:08.440 John Compton: Partly on town property. 1362 02:54:09.530 --> 02:54:13.980 John Compton: Did you know, Robert… I wish I had a… Robert, Johnson. 1363 02:54:14.130 --> 02:54:20.010 John Compton: In his research, found a, a statement from the Bureau of Land Management. 1364 02:54:20.060 --> 02:54:38.059 John Compton: Which says, if you have, you know, established areas, never go and try to change, you know, do exactly what we do. They said, do not do that. He said it causes nothing, and this is the government saying that. It causes… just like… they said. 1365 02:54:38.090 --> 02:54:42.010 John Compton: Well, I wish we had heard about that, Tammy. 1366 02:54:42.150 --> 02:54:47.160 John Compton: There's a lot like you. Yeah, but it was like, it was so… oh my god, that's us. 1367 02:54:48.280 --> 02:54:57.639 John Compton: So if I did mine, so if I did that, and I don't know who else hasn't done it, would it be easier to do them all at once, or is it each one of the same? 1368 02:54:58.010 --> 02:55:06.320 John Compton: It's impossible to do them all at once, because some people aren't interested. They don't care if they're… No, I'm just saying, if I want to do it, though, with Eva, would that be, 1369 02:55:06.640 --> 02:55:10.460 John Compton: It's not… it wouldn't be easier to do it at the same time, or… 1370 02:55:11.110 --> 02:55:18.500 John Compton: See, because you do it… you have to do it… No, we have ordered one for everybody. That's what… we passed a… we passed, an ordinance. 1371 02:55:18.850 --> 02:55:26.409 John Compton: Naming the specific properties, where these encroachments were, and affording them this process. 1372 02:55:26.600 --> 02:55:40.679 John Compton: with whatever… with certain restrictions to resolve the fact that that property is on… that their structure is on… on town property, it will then become on their property. That clarifies 1373 02:55:40.810 --> 02:55:45.660 John Compton: for… if they want to sell the private. The first one we did was the O'Connors, who… 1374 02:55:45.810 --> 02:56:01.050 John Compton: Not easily. So, the factory and their porch was partly on the avenue. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And they wanted to clarify that for the sale, so we had to create this 1375 02:56:01.120 --> 02:56:07.980 John Compton: process. They finally moved. Well, that property. It's a historic structure, it's the old aroused. 1376 02:56:08.080 --> 02:56:11.919 John Compton: And we did, but it also… it was a huge debate. 1377 02:56:12.340 --> 02:56:31.949 John Compton: It's horrible. Yeah. Yes. So that… so as… as helpful as Charlie Charleston was in all other aspects, his idea to survey the town backfired in this particular case. 1378 02:56:32.100 --> 02:56:34.559 John Compton: And so this is just another one of those, probably. 1379 02:56:35.710 --> 02:56:47.650 John Compton: You're not going to get us till… to stay till 10, so we might as well go. I'm just… I'm just saying, you haven't seen the proposed ordinance. It'll show you the… where the… where the… 1380 02:56:47.910 --> 02:56:51.550 John Compton: Is Eva listed as one of the houses? 1381 02:56:52.130 --> 02:57:05.269 John Compton: Yeah, of course. I never find anyone else. We looked at that housing, didn't buy it specifically because of that. They said, well, half the porch belongs to the city. Which house are you talking about? Well, it's… I don't… 1382 02:57:06.080 --> 02:57:14.290 John Compton: I don't know. It's up around the curve and up in… It's kind of… 1383 02:57:15.090 --> 02:57:17.100 John Compton: Behind yours and over to the right. 1384 02:57:18.970 --> 02:57:19.929 John Compton: I don't know. 1385 02:57:20.070 --> 02:57:35.059 John Compton: All I know is we looked at it, and they said half the porch belongs to the town. We said, okay, forget this one. That would be accomplished house, I think. I think so. Oh, yeah, yeah, that would have been… that would have been… Yeah, that's a cool house. It was bought by an endocrinologist and somebody else, and then they moved. 1386 02:57:35.160 --> 02:57:46.359 John Compton: Yeah, yeah, that's right. Yeah, but they resolved it before they bought it. Before they bought it, but nobody told us they were trying to resolve it. Yeah, that's a… 1387 02:57:46.540 --> 02:57:58.220 John Compton: Oh, you did okay for yourself. What? You did okay for yourself. Yeah. With Craig's house. You know, it's always going to be the Craig English house, or like… Even though we're handling the flu… 1388 02:57:58.790 --> 02:58:03.349 John Compton: That's… that's… now it's gonna be called. Blue House. Yeah, that's fine. 1389 02:58:03.890 --> 02:58:05.510 John Compton: Yeah, that's comical.