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John Compton: So, hold it in.

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John Compton: Yeah, front-seat mattress extract on top of them.

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John Compton: Also, some plywood have happened in my car. They go, like, a mile. Oh my god, the torque of the wind…

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John Compton: Yeah, it was banging, and then it finally flipped off.

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John Compton: It was… never again.

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John Compton: No, the car's gonna be creeping up 5% of the time I've huddle in the truck. I'm just the right one.

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John Compton: I'll call you up and have a new one.

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John Compton: Crazy. Yeah, you need a truck and a car. Well, that's what that is.

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John Compton: Yeah, well, yeah. I'm telling you, it's a… it's a…

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John Compton: It's a pilot. It's a Honda Pilot.

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John Compton: with an ex… 5-foot bed. That's how it is.

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John Compton: I can't confirm.

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John Compton: I would need an 8-foot bed, so I could apply to the drywall. Well, if you lay it down, it could be another…

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John Compton: Foot and a half.

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John Compton: If you put the gate down, you can lay it flat, right? Yeah. Is it 4 feet wide? It's got control, is it? Oh, yeah, yeah. It's designed, to take…

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John Compton: 4x8 sheets, although it hangs out by about a foot.

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John Compton: You could also, like, put the gate down, right? I mean, gate up, and just the way that way, or with the airbag? Well, in Maryland, the law says you can't run with a tailgate down. Is that right? Yeah, because I called. When I got this truck, I was going to hauling some plywood, like, 15 sheets. Yeah.

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John Compton: And I called the Montgomery County Police, the barracks, or whatever, and I said, hey, you know, can I run the tailgate down?

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John Compton: Alright, I'm not supposed to be out. But, if you go short distance, we won't stop you.

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John Compton: 200 miles and stuff, yeah, sure. But you did angle straps that you put on.

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John Compton: You know, lengthwise, that would… that would…

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John Compton: Because I've never ever heard that.

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John Compton: Well, because mine's a 5-foot, 3-inch bed, and I thought, you know, I can't run with the tailgate down.

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John Compton: it wasn't designed for that, so I figured, now let it be legal and I'll call. Yeah. And that's when they said.

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John Compton: So then, it's a luck of the draw. Depends on who pulls up behind you. You know, if they have a bad day, go there and turn the sire on and give you two people. He just told you you could do a short pause. Did you get his name? In the barracks. The guy in the barracks said, I could do short hauls. Yeah.

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John Compton: If Montgomery County Police can't come over here for all this…

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John Compton: We're having with all this stuff. The only thing I'm stopping.

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John Compton: Yeah, Athensburg Police might stop you.

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John Compton: Yeah, lonely. If it's… if it's the end of the month, and they gotta get… DC month.

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John Compton: Easy money of those feet get roots.

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John Compton: That's… that's what, we should do that, we can lower our tax… tax base by taking the $2,000… Railroad Street is the one that we get the most money off of.

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John Compton: People fly around the Earth.

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John Compton: Talking about room, shoot. I think I heard.

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John Compton: Two people beep at least, when I'm pulling out.

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John Compton: Because they zoom around that corner. Well, not deliberately… I know I'm giving the jerk, and I deliberately go slow making my left turn, because they're going, like, 40, 50 miles an hour, receiving what's 25.

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John Compton: I'm willing to sacrifice myself.

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John Compton: If you get hit. That's what insurance is for. Yeah, right. As I'm walking around with crutches and or whatever in a wheelchair, yeah, that was really satisfying.

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John Compton: Let me just do a sound check, can everybody hear okay? Yeah, I know. I didn't actually know what it is.

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Liz Everhart: Yeah, I can hear you.

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John Compton: You think it was 45 to 50. I agree. Hold on, guys, I'm looking for our other two council members. I saw Mary on there. Mary's there, Mary's there. Oh, there's Don Porter coming on now. There's Mary. Okay.

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Liz Everhart: Hmm.

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John Compton: Okay, then let's call the,

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John Compton: the, August Meeting of the Town Council, to order.

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John Compton: First order of business is to approve the agenda.

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John Compton: So, I'll make a motion to approve the agenda. Okay, moved and seconded to, approve the agenda.

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John Compton: any comments on the agenda?

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John Compton: Recording in progress.

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John Compton: Tumor devastating to us, medium here is horrible.

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John Compton: I need that in order to share.

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John Compton: screen. All right, so hearing no, no objections or additions to the agenda, all in favor of the agenda? Aye. Up there. John?

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John Compton: Are you… I don't see him anymore. Harry's there.

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John Compton: See, Mary.

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John Compton: Is he off the screen? He's off the screen.

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John Compton: John, you don't have a video?

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John Porter: I'm sorry, yeah.

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John Porter: I'm here.

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John Compton: Oh, okay, thanks.

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John Porter: I'm still in my car right now, trying to get through my.

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John Compton: Okay, so we don't… we'll… we'll let you concentrate on… Okay.

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John Porter: Good.

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John Compton: Right,

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jameseverhart: Yeah, I can…

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John Compton: Alright, so, the first item on the agenda after approving the agenda is the public hearing.

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jameseverhart: Nope.

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jameseverhart: True.

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John Compton: And,

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John Compton: That's the public hearing on Ordinance 2026-10, authorizing an easement to Montgomery County to extend the Washington Grove Connector to the end of Brown Street.

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John Compton: Okay, do we have anyone here for the public hearing who wishes to speak?

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John Compton: Yes.

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Liz Everhart: Yes.

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jameseverhart: Yes.

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John Compton: Kyle is present here. Anybody else appears?

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jameseverhart: Yes, I'm Jay Everhart.

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Liz Everhart: Liz Everhart?

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jameseverhart: art.

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John Compton: Somebody has an audio on they shouldn't. Who's that? It's not me, I hope.

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John Compton: No, I've killed off my… Audio.

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John Compton: Okay, let's… let's, alright, let's let Donna, start. Donna, please. Okay, thank you, thank you. What's your notes?

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John Compton: Schreiner. Schreiner.

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John Compton: S-H-R-I, you need that. Thank you, thanks. 503 Brown Street, if you need that.

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John Compton: So I don't know, some of you may remember… I don't know you, certainly, because you weren't here yet, back in June of 2022, I gave a, very positive review, request for the bike path. It's probably still on the website somewhere under something related to this.

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John Compton: But, and for the record, I still remain very much in favor of, of the bike path and look forward to its, you know, to its development, its connection to, the crowds, specifically to the Crab Springs Shopping Center and to the Metro. However.

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John Compton: I am concerned about the impact of the bike path, the shared use path, I should call it, on my lower ground student neighbors, both in the short term and in the long term. And I have submitted these comments, to the town council.

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John Compton: email address, both of them, both the .file and the .go, and I do see that jan has been posted, on the, on the drop… in the dropbox. There!

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John Compton: To, previously, I've made a series of requests, so the most recent time that these requests were reiterated was at the 65% design stage, when the Shared Use Path Committee had a meeting with Jean.

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John Compton: how does she say that? Pakusnik. Pukuznik. And that was in October of 2025. And at that time, I was advocating to make sure… they were talking about increasing the path width, which would increase the level of disturbance.

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John Compton: So I was advocating for no increase in the path width beyond the original proposal to minimize the level of disturbance, to remove the absolute minimum number of trees.

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John Compton: To provide a landscape plan that blocks the direct view of the salt barn and through, if you imagine, a 60-foot-wide cut through there, to Crabs Branch Road, to provide a landscape plan that, as much as possible, blocks the direct view

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John Compton: through to Crafts Branch Road. Crafts Branch? Yeah. To minimize the leg path intrusion on Lower Brown Street, because the path will be lit.

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John Compton: And to, stage all of the construction of the Crafts Branch Way access point.

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John Compton: More recently, we had met, on, June 29th. This was a discussion that was had, again, with the Shared Use Path Committee, with our attorney, with the attorney for the county, and she…

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John Compton: And this was to discuss the easement approval.

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John Compton: And again, at that time, one of the main things that came out of that meeting was a request for the county to mark out the level of disturbance and to tag the trees that would be removed before the easement was approved by Washington Grove.

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John Compton: And Jean, even Jean admits that she did agree to this. I've spoken to her, this week. She does admit that she

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John Compton: That she… that we did… that we did discuss that.

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John Compton: What seems to be in contention is that the other piece of it was that after the level of disturbance was marked and the trees were tagged, which has not happened, I must…

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John Compton: That might have.

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John Compton: and before the easement is signed, that she would conduct an on-site meeting with the Lower Brown Street residents to visually review the impact and to discuss, at a minimum, the construction saving, the landscaping plans, and the lighting plans. So this is just to give

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John Compton: Those residents a chance to see

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John Compton: what the impact of this is going to be, because in all honesty, the last town meeting that we have had with this, and the last time that anybody really beyond the Shared Use Path Committee and the Town Council to a degree, have seen any… seen or referred any plans, was August 13th of 2023.

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John Compton: And that was at the 35% design stage. So that's quite a long time ago.

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John Compton: In addition to that, I was requesting that we…

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John Compton: require them to provide written commitment that all construction would be staged from the Crafts Branch Way access point, and that no construction vehicles will be parked overnight in the Brown Street culprit. This is for resident safety, with the… with the trucks that use

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John Compton: that Lower Brown Street and use that cul-de-sac to turn around.

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John Compton: That that cul-de-sac really needs to remain available at all for months.

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John Compton: the reason that I'm, like, written… written…

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John Compton: confirmation of that is because every time I seem to bring these up, I do seem to… I don't get them… I don't get it documented in writing, and I live to regret it.

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John Compton: Anyway.

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John Compton: I'm assuming that my assumption here is that once the easement is assigned, our ability as a town to advocate on behalf of the most highly impacted town residents would be limited and or lost.

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John Compton: And therefore, I'm requesting that the Town Council strongly advocate for the above requests prior to signing off on the necessary leasement.

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John Compton: Thank you. Thank you.

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John Compton: Okay, thank you, Donna.

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John Compton: All right, I heard Liz Everhart, although I don't…

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Liz Everhart: here.

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John Compton: All right, let us shake me.

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Liz Everhart: Okay, mine is very short. I'll submit. I just want to commend the Shared Use Path Ad Hoc Committee for working really diligently with the county. I believe a lot of these concerns have… were addressed at the last meeting.

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Liz Everhart: And, I just,

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Liz Everhart: I'm hoping that the committee will continue to work well with the county, and I'm disappointed that the easement is not back for approval tonight, but

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Liz Everhart: Hoping that once you guys do get the easement back, hopefully soon, from the county, you will move quickly to approve it. The connector will be a huge benefit.

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Liz Everhart: You know, it's been…

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Liz Everhart: 5 years almost since the, the town meeting, where, overwhelmingly, the town voted in favor of this. So I'm really looking forward to the day when we have a shared use path that I can have a direct walk to Giant and on to the Metro. And, I'll submit these comments in writing. Thank you.

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Liz Everhart: That's it.

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John Compton: Okay, thank you, Liz. Do we have anyone else?

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Liz Everhart: Jay is here.

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John Compton: Jay is here. Jay, you have a comment?

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jameseverhart: Yeah, I think Liz said it very well, the large picture, the big picture. So, the design

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jameseverhart: Progress has been slow, because that's how the county works, and they spent well over half a million dollars in engineering plans and permitting, and it's provided, finally, a near…

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jameseverhart: On your final plan that differs very little from the original concept. And essentially, from our perspective in town.

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jameseverhart: not at all from a 35% concept, it's really how they were engineering the road and getting over some water and that sort of stuff. But the… what we would see, is essentially the same as it was several years ago.

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jameseverhart: So, as has been said, one of the last steps before construction can begin is for the town to provide an easement to the county of just over 200 square feet.

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jameseverhart: Which is an area smaller than many living rooms, beside the dead end of Brown Street.

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jameseverhart: Regarding the concerns that the Donna Schreiner raised, they… they've all been addressed to the extent possible.

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jameseverhart: Some things just can't be done, as Gene Kupuznik told us at the last meeting, and I will provide comments in writing on this as to what, what I recall being discussed, and…

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jameseverhart: And why things… some things can work and some things can't. But, and, I… I certainly agree that there should be a meeting.

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jameseverhart: With anyone interested, to look at where the, where the shared use path will go from the end of Brown Street.

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jameseverhart: I…

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jameseverhart: guess I'd say, I mean, it's nice to think that, you know, okay, we can put these things in writing.

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jameseverhart: But at the end of the day, if the Department of Transportation wants to do it differently after the easement's been granted.

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jameseverhart: what's to prevent that? So we've asked, in the revised easement document for the opportunity to discuss with the Department of Transportation and the county any problems that may occur, and I don't think we can do much more than that.

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jameseverhart: And so I really urge the Council to approve the easement as soon as practical, so this important project can proceed.

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jameseverhart: Thank you.

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John Compton: Alright, thank you, Kay.

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John Compton: Further comments?

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Bill robertson: I have a comment, and that is that,

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John Compton: Bill, this is Bell Robertson.

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Bill robertson: Yes, it is, and you know, we have been misled by the county in all of this for years. We were supposed to be running this thing through Roberts Oxygen, and then they moved the salt barn into the wrong location, so I'm a little leery about it, and who's going to maintain

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Bill robertson: the bike path, who's gonna be responsible for it? Is it gonna be the town?

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Bill robertson: Or who's going to pick up any trash that accumulates from the, the use of this path.

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Bill robertson: And, there's already people that are flying down Brown Street, like, 40 miles an hour on e-bikes.

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Bill robertson: Who's gonna be the traffic cop to stop that?

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Bill robertson: Hello?

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John Compton: Well, you're making the statement, this is not an interaction, question, answer session, so your comments will be, possibly be addressed during, when we bring the easement up for discussion a little bit later.

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Bill robertson: Well, are we going to, extend the bike path into Gaithersburg, or is it gonna

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Bill robertson: Dead end at, the post office.

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John Compton: this is not time to engage. Well, Bill, you'll have to wait until we get to that. There is an item on my report where I will comment on that. Okay.

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John Compton: So, stay tuned.

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John Compton: Okay, anybody else?

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John Compton: And actually, no one will call the public hearing on the easement ordinance, to a close.

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John Compton: And,

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John Compton: move on to, the next item, which is the Treasurer's Report. Jean is here, and Jean, have you…

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John Compton: Say a few words about the treasure.

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Jean Moyer: Yeah, I only had… I mean, we're one month into the new fiscal year, there's not a lot to comment on.

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Jean Moyer: If you went down to page 4…

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John Compton: Did 4, wow.

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Jean Moyer: 4 and top of 5, if you can put both

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Jean Moyer: Page 4 and 5 up, kind of spreading across them. Keep going.

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John Compton: I don't have numbers, so tell me what line item you want.

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Jean Moyer: I see. Yeah, keep going.

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John Compton: Okay.

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Jean Moyer: There you go.

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John Compton: tight.

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Jean Moyer: Yeah. So, with the insurance, when we did the budget, we did not get specific guidance from legit.

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Jean Moyer: As to what the new rates would be, we kind of had a rough guide, but the actual rates did come in higher for both liability and property, so you'll see that it's a one-time payment for the year, it's not going to increase.

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Jean Moyer: Over the year, just to point that out. And, the nice thing is that the workers' comp

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Jean Moyer: Premium. We've had successful audits the last couple of years. In fact, they thankfully waived, this year's audit.

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Jean Moyer: So, we keep getting prior year refunds on our, premiums based on those audit results, so I do not expect that, workers' comp, actual to increase.

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Jean Moyer: And it's significantly lower than what we anticipated. So overall, our insurance category is under budget. I don't expect it to change during the year.

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Jean Moyer: That's good news. If you were to scroll up, I do want to… the only big spending area that we have had

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Jean Moyer: is Summer in the Parks,

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Jean Moyer: which, again, is a once-a-year thing. If you were to scroll up to the revenue area.

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Jean Moyer: You will see, $12,600, well above budget.

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Jean Moyer: Part of that is a larger donation from the women's club than last year.

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Jean Moyer: And some last-minute folks will pay for the whole month.

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Jean Moyer: But they might only be attending one or two weeks, and those came in late in the season.

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Jean Moyer: So I don't… that… that should be the total revenue for Summer in the Parks, well above budget, and if you went down to the expenses, which is in the recreation area.

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Jean Moyer: after parks, the, salary, is just a bit under budget there, and,

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Jean Moyer: the supplies actually are, a bit under budget at the moment. I… I don't know if I'm going to get any more reimbursement requests

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Jean Moyer: And there's one counselor who has not submitted for her

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Jean Moyer: a background check reimbursement, so that may change. But overall, the delta between income and expenses is about roughly estimating $1,000.

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Jean Moyer: The budget, the, the… that the town approved, the delta between those, which is what I also call the town's subsidy.

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Jean Moyer: for Summer in the Parks was, just a little over $3,000 that was built into the budget. So we do have…

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Jean Moyer: Excess in there, should there be more expense money?

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Jean Moyer: needed, related to Summer in the Parks. There is money then. The way I look at it, the subsidy could be up to about $3,000.

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Jean Moyer: And currently, it's just about maybe $1,000. So, not to say that we don't want to save money, but, the approved budget had a larger subsidy than the actuals currently look like they will be.

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Jean Moyer: So, should there be more expenses related to Summer in the Parks to come, this month?

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Jean Moyer: There's room, is the way I look at it.

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Jean Moyer: And those are the only comments I have on July.

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John Compton: And what was budgeted for summers in the park? Does that carry over to next year, or is it just wiped out June 30th?

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Jean Moyer: Nothing carries over.

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Jean Moyer: Yep.

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Jean Moyer: So, should there be a need to expend some more money towards this year's of Summer in the Parks? The way I am looking at the budget, there should be availability there.

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Jean Moyer: Yeah.

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John Compton: I have a question, Gene.

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Jean Moyer: Yeah.

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John Compton: Oh, that's the fault

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John Compton: This is for Gene, not Jong, the project manager. Still more the management. Where are we? Where are we as far as spending?

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John Compton: on that?

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Jean Moyer: If you look at the very bottom of my report, we have quite a lot of money remaining.

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Jean Moyer: In ARPA money?

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Jean Moyer: Which is stormwater.

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Jean Moyer: And that money has to be spent by the end of this calendar year.

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Jean Moyer: I have concerns… we're… late?

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Jean Moyer: On what we thought we would be spending.

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Jean Moyer: Should not all… John, can you go to the very bottom, still? Yep.

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John Compton: There's nothing there but accounts.

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Jean Moyer: Yeah, right there. We have… And $28,000 remaining in ARPA money.

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John Compton: No.

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Jean Moyer: That money has to go out the door by the end of this calendar year.

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John Compton: Oh, that's cool. That's cool.

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John Compton: Sorry, which line is that? We could send that. It's below everything. Oh, I got it, I see. Okay. Yeah, that's good. Good.

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Jean Moyer: So, if…

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Jean Moyer: That… all of that money is not out the door. We have to give it back to the government.

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John Compton: Right, but we're in good shape. Yeah, exactly. Good, good. Thank you.

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Jean Moyer: I am stressed over this, but I may be the only one.

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Jean Moyer: But I would like to see this money out the door in November.

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Jean Moyer: Not… not.

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John Compton: John's not gonna leave a penny, don't worry. Peter is volunteering to be a middleman.

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Jean Moyer: Okay.

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John Compton: It does.

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Jean Moyer: I look out my door every day, and that project is not changing.

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John Compton: I don't know.

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Jean Moyer: Yeah.

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Jean Moyer: That's stormwater.

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John Compton: But do we have to… do we have to actually spend the money, or, like, are we… can we commit the money? We have to actually spend the money.

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John Compton: You have to… so, like, you can't have an invoice in hand, you have to actually have the money out the door. No, I do have an invoice, then. Oh, you do have an invoice, that would probably… okay.

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Jean Moyer: My understanding is that an invoice with a 2026 date on it is sufficient. However.

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John Compton: Okay.

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Jean Moyer: They say spent, and tomorrow I am attending a webinar office hours for ARPA.

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Jean Moyer: And I'm going to ask specifically, what does the word spent mean? Does it mean we have an invoice, or does it mean the check actually left…

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Jean Moyer: the account.

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John Compton: Okay, thanks. I'm good.

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John Compton: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Thank you.

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Jean Moyer: Yeah.

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Jean Moyer: I don't want to give any money back.

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John Compton: No, we won't demo. That's good to know. Any other questions on the budget, on the Treasurer's report?

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John Compton: Okay, and in that case, any motion to approve the July Treasurer's Report?

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John Compton: Move to approve Seconded. Either seconded. Any other discussion?

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John Compton: Peter, yes, that was, Nick moved, and Peter seconded.

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John Compton: All in favor?

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John Compton: So everybody here? Mary, And…

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John Porter: This is John, I vote aye.

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John Compton: Okay, thank you.

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John Compton: All right, thank you, Jean. And… Alrighty, this…

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John Compton: Brings us to, my report.

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John Compton: John, I'm sorry to interrupt, did we just… did we skip public appearances for a particular reason? Oh, we did skip, but no, we just…

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John Compton: went right over it by omission. All right, we're backing up and gonna do public appearances. Thank you. We would have caught it. We would have thought it at some point. Okay, we have public appearances on any subject. Donna's here to speak to some…

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John Compton: Well, you've heard it, but I'm gonna do the formal… do the formal presentation here, so…

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John Compton: I would like to submit a request, to consider the installation of a stop sign at the intersection of Brown and Chestnut. Now, if you're familiar with Brown and Chestnut right now, it's a two-way stop. The individuals coming off the railroad do not stop.

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John Compton: the individuals heading, essentially, towards the post office, whatever direction you want to say that. They've got a stop sign, the individuals heading towards railroad.

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John Compton: on Chestnut have a stop sign, but anybody coming from the post office on Brown Street towards Chestnut, there's no stop sign there. Now, that obviously has made sense, because there's no cars, it's essentially a dead end, right?

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John Compton: But, there's no stop sign that also means bicycles.

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John Compton: Coming from the post office do not stop there, or are not required to stop there.

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John Compton: This is important because, last year, in May, I almost…

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John Compton: got cremated by a… by somebody turning off of Railroad Street because I failed to stop. I usually… I… I'm usually…

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John Compton: and tuned to stop, but for some reason, that particular night, and I wasn't thinking straight, I went through, and just my luck, somebody came flying off of Railroad Street and near the glass with me.

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John Compton: I didn't submit anything last year, because I thought,

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John Compton: you know, it's my fault I should have stopped. I know better than that. But this year, since I've been back, this summer, I saw another person on a bike very nearly hit at that same intersection.

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John Compton: So, that was… that's kind of my impetus now, to say I think we… I think we need to consider installing a stop sign there. Obviously, it would be mostly for bikers coming through there from the post office, but…

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John Compton: I'd like to make the request that if you think about doing that.

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John Compton: Okay?

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John Compton: Thank you.

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John Compton: Any other public appearances?

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John Compton: That's Paul, yes?

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Paula Puglisi: I would just like to know what the holdup is with the stormwater management work.

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Paula Puglisi: Because it just… I… I pass there all the time, and nothing's happening on… It's just not… nothing's happening.

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John Compton: Yeah, they… I can… I can get the explanation I'm getting from the contractor, although we could push this into… into motion.

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John Compton: The… there's a redesign of, of the, installation, at Chestnut and Center.

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John Compton: Where, in order to save.

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John Compton: A number of treats on both sides of center.

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John Compton: When the… when the… the…

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John Compton: The plan was laid out. It turned out to be… endangering

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John Compton: And we're waiting for that to be completed in that location.

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John Compton: You need the engineering drawings and the stakeout.

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John Compton: Everywhere else is ready to go, and they should… they could be working, and they, you know, I suspect once, once, whatever this final holdup with the engineer is, circumvented, then they're going to be working pretty, straight through.

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John Compton: There was also a holdup because they had to order pipes.

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John Compton: concrete, reinforced concrete pipes, and a few other things, but I suspect those are… have already arrived, so I don't believe that's any… a problem. In other words, materials are not a problem.

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John Compton: So, that's the explanation, Paula. We're kind of disappointed they haven't done more. However, just to give you an idea of the,

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John Compton: The process… the, the… Design, build, and, and on-site,

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John Compton: changes that can be made. They have been working between, as most people know, between Chestnut Road and Hickory.

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John Compton: And the asphalt swale there was removed.

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John Compton: And a, dirt swale, has been installed.

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John Compton: And it turned out that that was a little bit trickier than laid out on the plan to put it,

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John Compton: between Chestnut Avenue and Hickory. So, we had a few major rainstorms, which, kind of informed the situation. It didn't require much alteration, but it did require some. So, right now, that is pretty much in place.

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John Compton: And, so it's not like nothing has happened, but…

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John Compton: I'm in agreement that the other areas are… need to be started soon. I think it'll go pretty quick. I don't think anybody anticipates

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John Compton: you know, any problems doing the work. The major installation is the gravel wetlands at the end of center, and that has been laid out.

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John Compton: Not quite to everybody's satisfaction, but it will probably be the last thing completed.

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Paula Puglisi: Thank you.

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John Compton: All I can tell you. Yeah, I was just going to say, because I was talking with Steve, he said that one of the problems also is that they had another project going.

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John Compton: with a lot of crew, and they're pretty much done with it, and they're gonna move all those people over there. They have a lot of great equipment, and like, you know, they'll knock this out real quick. So, yeah, you're gonna spend your money, don't worry.

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John Compton: I don't think Paul's worried about the money. She does the fee itself. It's okay, done, yeah. We have the money.

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John Compton: Okay, thanks for that comment.

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John Compton: It's an update I shouldn't have given then, but I would have been giving this my report. Anyway, okay, any other public appearances?

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John Compton: Seeing none, we'll call the public appearances, to a close.

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John Compton: Out of order, but now, we go on to,

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John Compton: my report. First of all, the kudos, and the kudos are focused on, Summer in the Parks, which recently concluded.

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John Compton: First one is to the staff and the volunteers who delivered a great and wonderful camp experience for over 40 campers. That's many more than

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John Compton: We've had in the recent past.

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John Compton: Accolades, of course, go to the camp director, Courtney Osborne, and her assistant director, Jack Bones.

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John Compton: For organizing, coordinating so many imaginative activities aided, and this is important, by many resident experts. And for those of you who didn't already see a post, several posts that were put on the listserv.

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John Compton: No problem, I have a link in the agenda to a more detailed tribute to all those involved, and there were many, and they're named, and includes the links to a video and a slideshow that kind of summarize the program, so…

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John Compton: And the second, the second kudo really has to go to Eva Patron, who has… was this… was the site coordinator… the SITP coordinator for this year.

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John Compton: And for the past 3 years. So 4 years.

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John Compton: doing an amazing job keeping the program flourishing. And Eva has now, announced she's stepping down, but it turns out that, the SIT coordinator, position will be kept in the Patron family

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John Compton: Councillor… Councillor Nick Patrone has, at least, with this year in advance.

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John Compton: to reconsider this… this offer to, coordinate the program next year, so that's fantastic, but… but all kudos and acroads to, Eva for, for her efforts and, in… in keeping the Summer in the Parks flourishing.

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John Compton: Can they make a real quick, semi-announcement about that? Yeah. We're real lucky in that, both Jack and Courtney want to come back next year, and so too do the four councillors, so we'll have

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John Compton: not new staff, but second-year staff, and we're going to include some extra training, but we're real pleased that all six are coming back. That's great. That should… that should make it go even more…

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John Compton: Okay, you know, the Council and others probably want an update on the Playground Renovation and Modernization RFP.

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John Compton: It has been distributed, it was finalized, the dates for… timeline dates and everything were… were… were entered into that, and

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John Compton: I, was able to post it on the state of Maryland.

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John Compton: Oscar Ramos asked me.

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John Compton: I think it was this morning or yesterday, if we… if we knew anybody who had looked at that, and it turns out that there's a list of 5s.

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John Compton: Vendors who did look at it, whether they have pursued it, to what extent.

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John Compton: Remains to be seen, but it got some notice. I passed that information to Oscar.

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John Compton: The deadline for… well, there's a series of events with that RFP, you should look at it. I don't think it's in this current folder, but it is in last week's, with the deadline, for,

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John Compton: For, requesting a site visit, obviously a good idea. And submitting questions

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John Compton: And the intention is, then to,

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John Compton: And to identify 3 vendors.

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John Compton: It's to, to do further, further, evaluation and interview them. It's quite similar to what we do with the stormwater management,

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John Compton: Alrighty, this one project update I will skip over. We already covered that.

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John Compton: Liz Everhart, or somebody, asked about the, it wasn't Liz, it was, it was Bill, about the Gaithensburg side of the, of, of…

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John Compton: this bike pathway network. A meeting, Gaithers requested a meeting to update the town on where they were in the planning phases for that.

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John Compton: And they have a… have money now for detailed, site, planning.

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John Compton: And of course, part of that, to Raithersburg's credit, it includes, bringing the path from the commercial corner to Brown Street. So, we were reviewing what would be required

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John Compton: in the coming months to firm up, the town's participation, what, what Gaithersburg will need for their, for their, project. They do not have construction funding yet, but this is all preparatory to obtaining.

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John Compton: Okay, john, I have a quick question about that. I was talking to Tatiana about… we haven't met with her in a long time, and so she's, you know, be happy to meet with us.

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John Compton: a little group, but I'm wondering, when is… when would be a good time to meet, just to get discussing about the easement? Is it too early, or is it okay that, like, in the next couple weeks, let me prepare?

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John Compton: Let's talk about that offline. Okay. I mean, we need something very concrete for her, I think, at this point. You know, like, here's what we want, we'll create an easement draft, and we'll go from there. Okay. Yeah, but he did come in with…

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John Compton: plans, the 35% plan. We should talk about, see how they're going with the plans, so that it's, you know, everything then. I mean, we can have the form of these. If not the actual, you know, we're not going to have the actual survey information. Yeah, okay, okay.

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John Compton: All right, and the next thing I was going to, report on was the shared youth pathway, but it's, it's, it's on our, agenda in a big way.

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John Compton: And… Please stick around, it, just a little preview would have those…

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John Compton: Not going to be approving that ordinance tonight, and the reasons for that we'll get to.

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John Compton: Last thing is the hard tennis court maintenance, which, which, the council, approved, finishing, crack repair by filling.

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John Compton: And, Jupiter Systems has completed that, being Mike Shanks. He had a devil of a time cleaning the court.

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John Compton: Because it hasn't cleaned in a while, but it looks great. And he's repaired the cracks and remains to paint over them to,

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John Compton: to color them in as innocuous a way as can be managed. So, that's the status of our tennis courts. Oh, in addition.

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John Compton: Pickleball wines,

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iPhone (72): Excuse me?

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iPhone (72): I have a question about the swim thing. We didn't… we kind of lost pay. Could I ask a question?

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John Compton: Where else?

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iPhone (72): This is Karen Kelly.

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John Compton: You can't.

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iPhone (72): Hello?

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John Compton: Off… offline, you can write… you can ask… ask… just send it by email, and I can answer it.

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iPhone (72): comment, it's a question. I want to know what you're going to do about the standing water, and where are people supposed to walk when they're coming from the lake to the church parking lot?

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iPhone (72): There is no space to walk, and you can't walk in that gully, and there's standing water there. What are you going to do about that?

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iPhone (72): And I can submit the comments, that's fine.

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John Compton: The plans fall for a path.

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John Compton: Which will be installed in some…

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John Compton: Fairly… fairly soon. I can't tell you whether it'll be this week or two weeks from now.

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iPhone (72): But I'd like to know where the path is. There's no space left. You're right up to my property line, you're almost at Lauren's property line.

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John Compton: Appropriate.

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John Compton: There will be a path.

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iPhone (72): It's not appropriate, did you say? I shouldn't ask now?

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John Compton: Correct. Sorry, yes, this is… This is not a discussion period. Yes.

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iPhone (72): No, but you talked about the swim thing, and you…

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iPhone (72): Paula got to ask a question, and then you just breezed by it.

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John Compton: If you… this is a personal question.

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iPhone (72): No, it's not a personal question. Paula Puglisi got to ask about why is there no project?

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John Compton: Progress on the swim project.

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John Compton: You could have asked it during a public appearance, that's correct.

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iPhone (72): Then you went on to discuss the swim thing, and we never got to address it.

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John Compton: There was no… it doesn't… that's not how the… that's not how we operate, all right? You're… I'm not trying to discourage your question.

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iPhone (72): Okay.

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John Compton: Can't ask it at this time.

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iPhone (72): I see. Okay.

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John Compton: Alright, I mean…

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iPhone (72): No, not really, but I'll write the letter.

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John Compton: I know, rather aggressive, but… We lose… we lose, a lot of time, and we have a lot of business, and we just can't…

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John Compton: we have determined… the Council has determined that we need to be a little more rigid in how we address our business, so…

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John Compton: All right, that's one more item,

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John Compton: In my report, and that concerns the accessory dwelling unit ordinance that we passed a couple of years ago.

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John Compton: A couple of 3 years ago.

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John Compton: Since then, the state has passed an ADU accessory dwelling Unit Ordinance, and it mandates some requirements from municipalities. So, and that will lead to some

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John Compton: required changes to our ordinance, and so the Planning Commission is, has been looking into it,

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John Compton: And, and, you will, it will… it will be coming forward as a proposed zoning text amendment to revise the ADU.

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John Compton: our ADU ordinances.

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John Compton: That's all I have in my report. Any other questions I should address?

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John Compton: the council.

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John Compton: You may… we may want to mention a couple of us were on that phone call from… were you on the phone call from the state?

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John Compton: No, I was not available. Oh, it was, like, a little bit… alarming.

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John Compton: about what the state's trying to do as far as trying to control local zoning, as far as getting more… squeezing in more housing in different places. I mean, I don't believe it's going to take effect. I think the more affluent communities are gonna not like what's going on, but it's an interesting direction.

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John Compton: That on the going. It's just something I don't Georgette's on top of it, John's on top of it.

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John Compton: So Peter is referring to something that has nothing to do with ADUs, and everything to do with our zoning authority.

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John Compton: For those of you who may recall that there was a bill introduced in the state legislature in this past session.

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John Compton: proposed by the governor that, would basically, require… Residential zoning to,

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John Compton: be as small as 5,000 square feet, thereby

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John Compton: Increasing the number of buildable lots all over the state.

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John Compton: That bill did not make it out of committee.

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John Compton: But that doesn't mean it's gone away, and it will be back, and so what Peter's talking about is a briefing from this… one of the state department heads.

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John Compton: as to, as to what they're thinking. One of the mistakes they made last year is they didn't communicate well, and so hopefully they will continue to do better at that, which is not to say what they propose to do

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John Compton: isn't alarming.

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John Compton: So, that's something that we'll be addressing in the coming for the coming… Legislative session.

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John Compton: Clearly, and the Marilyn Municipal League is involved in this as well, so… All right.

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John Compton: Alright, moving along on the agenda, then, let's, let's go to, the first… these are administrative matters, and they're information reports. A… a… the…

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John Compton: was requested to get an update on repair of Playground equipment. I put Peter in there because he takes these,

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John Compton: He's our maintenance coordinator. Right. So, as you know, we, like you just said, we have this $250,000 grant, so we're working,

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John Compton: Oscar and Group and Andy are working, and Jonathan are working at, getting that along, which is very good. In the meantime, we have a playground.

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John Compton: that needs a little bit of work. The primary concerns are there's some nails that are popping up on those 6x6 that surround the equipment, and some of those are rotting. And we have some benches, which are…

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John Compton: They're walking down, they're breaking. I've talked with Steve and with, RJ.

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John Compton: And they're going to be working on, picking sure that everything's safe as far as nails and things coming up. We have 6x6s at the maintenance shed that we have, we took from other places, and they're going to replace a few that are really in bed shed. It's not going to be a huge, major effort, since it is all going to be redone, but…

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John Compton: It has to be safe. So that… that's one thing. The benches will all be repaired. That's a minor expense, it's just pressure-treated 2x4s. The… the issue, since you opened up the door, the issue of concern is…

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John Compton: the monkey bars and a broken slide. And we, as a council, like, 2 years ago, voted to reboot

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John Compton: The multivarus. The Jungle gym? Of jungles, yeah. I'm old school. Indifferent. Yeah, the jungle Joe. Yeah, we voted to do that, and it's never been done.

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John Compton: And I… I think… I'm not… we don't have, like, I don't know. But I'm just saying, it has been done, and there… it's kind of like a slap in the face of all the people on the committee.

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John Compton: who have been pushing for this for a year, and I'm not… it's just kind of, like, out there in limbo, and I thought this would be a good opportunity to mention that, and the slide, because they feel like it's not safe, and it should be removed, and…

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John Compton: I'm totally neutral on it, because I see kids playing in the jungle gyms all the time, and I don't have a problem with it personally, but we as a council voted to remove it, and as somebody pointed out, if somebody did happen to get injured on it.

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John Compton: There would be probably some kind of liability, since we said we would remove it, because the reason why you're removing it? Because it's not safe.

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John Compton: And so, as a council, we should really Either remove it, or…

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John Compton: Then we're gonna keep it. But not have it hanging out there in limbo.

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John Compton: And I am not making a motion on, you know, which way to go, but, John, as a council, I mean, there is a good point to that.

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John Compton: What about your thoughts?

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John Compton: You want me to respond? Well, you gotta let you respond. Well, somebody, yeah, it's like… I have one quick thing to say, and I… and, you know, I know a little bit of history of this, but the biggest concern I have is

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John Compton: It's either safe or not safe.

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John Compton: But the council voted to get rid of it, and as Peter said, if a child

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John Compton: you know, gets hurt out there, and a parent decides to sue, the council has, in writing, said, get rid of it. And, granted, you may say, well, a child's not going to sue, but a newspaper, when a child gets hurt, the parent is no longer the parent that we knew them before. The parent then becomes a different kind of parent.

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John Compton: Looking for the interest of the child in the long term. And I think it's a real liability that we've got that piece of equipment there that the Council voted to get rid of.

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John Compton: Now, we can change our vote and say, all right, we think it is, it's not… it is set, we could, you know, I don't know what the rationale is there. No, no, no piece of equipment is safe.

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John Compton: you could get hurt on any case requirement, yeah, it's just… So why do we suggest a deadline by the time

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John Compton: we would like to see that removed, because you're right, it's been sitting out there for 2 or 3 years. And maybe it's possible that when these experts come in from the, whoever gets… wins this bid, they will have experts, and they're bringing equipment. Maybe they could actually, make a determination of if that would… if that would fit or not.

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John Compton: If it would… If it would fit in within… if it's safe, and if it would fit in with what their plan is for the equipment that it should have. The gentleman? Yeah. But we already decided to get rid of it. But we obviously didn't get rid of it, so… So, if you… if you… if you go back, like you say, in history.

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John Compton: the council voted, right? And then again, it was all based on safety, and it was a misunderstood safety issue for me, and that's why I voted the way I did, but… but…

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John Compton: Subsequent to that, we ended up with comprehensive plan. Playground plan. Right.

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John Compton: And then now, it sounds like we just want to arbitrarily ignore that plan that was approved by Council, and just start ripping equipment out, because we loaded up, you know, the equipment to be removed. There's also a lot of things in this comprehensive plan

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John Compton: And the draft plans that… that… that created this comprehensive plan. You have to say Playground Comprehensive plan. Playground comprehensive plan. And by the way, this is Chris speaking for the machine, but,

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John Compton: That, that, that basically said, we brought in some experts, and they said that all of our playground equipment was unsafe.

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John Compton: And, and started criticizing different pieces of equipment that we had. And I can remember sitting at a council meeting where another counselor basically said, you know, you can't unring the bell when I said that there were, there were,

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John Compton: errors in this draft report. And again, now, now, we have a comprehensive plan that we, as Council.

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John Compton: endorse, so we voted on it. And, and… You mean the comprehensive, but not the Playground? The Playground Comprehensive plan. I'm sorry, okay. But we're talking Playground, that's why… I understand, but it's… That's… They're both involved, yeah. But anyway, anyway, with that, in there.

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John Compton: You know, and they put a lot of time and effort into this. The Playground Committee did, right? And they created different zones. And then this jungle Jim was in a zone.

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John Compton: So, if we're going to be doing work, we need to… we need to adhere to what was developed as a playground comprehensive plan to move forward with the playground renovation efforts.

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Mary W: I think, right.

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Mary W: It was made a long time ago.

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John Compton: Remember, liability, right?

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John Compton: Why is it so… I wasn't here to do that.

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John Compton: You know, I should come in as an attorney. Hold on. Somebody has two audios.

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John Compton: And it's feeding back.

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John Compton: So, if you'll please… Whoever's that? It's married, because we had this issue.

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John Compton: Okay.

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Mary W: I'm muted, it can't be me, I'm muted.

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John Compton: If you're muted, how can we hear you?

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Mary W: Because I unmuted!

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John Porter: Yeah, it's called unmuting.

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John Compton: Thank you.

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Mary W: Thanks, thanks, John!

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John Porter: I'll stand by you any day.

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John Compton: Rehashing it.

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John Compton: Well, why don't we just follow up? May I make a comment about this? You know, I've said this repeatedly, I was not present at that council meeting.

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John Compton: Where that was voted.

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John Compton: Subsequently, I simply asked the question, what was unsafe about the jungle gym? At which point, a number of people

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John Compton: Went out to look at it. Carefully.

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John Compton: The verdict of every one of those individuals was there was nothing more unsafe

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John Compton: than maybe falling off of the device, which is the nature of the device. In other words.

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John Compton: The rationale that it was unsafe

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John Compton: had no substance. And we need to undo the vote. Right. We can undo the vote.

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Mary W: Oh, Alright, alright.

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John Compton: What the heck?

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John Compton: It's you.

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John Compton: No, it's not. I didn't do… change any of them.

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John Compton: That's interesting.

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John Compton: Right, and more recently, and I'm sorry, I have to state everything, more recently, the slide, old slide, metal slide.

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John Compton: Also, Was, evaluated to be unsafe.

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John Compton: Yeah, there was… something had… a piece had come off.

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John Compton: Steve went out there, put the piece back on, and again, a bunch of people looked at it, and the only thing remotely different

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John Compton: or unsafe about that, is that if you were a strong person, you could maybe barely lift the end of the slide a bit, an inch off the ground. So there would be… again, the safety

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John Compton: issue isn't real. It's no different than it's been, or would be, for any of the other pieces of equipment. There's nothing… my point is that, and Chris is right.

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John Compton: Both those pieces of equipment are almost certain to be moved, if not removed entirely.

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John Compton: The plan calls for those changes, but we don't… we're not executing the plan yet, and so…

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John Compton: Arbitrarily going in and just removing equipment when… with no

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John Compton: safety issue is just unwarranted, in my opinion. And if it takes another… a revisit by the Council for that, and you can overrule my opinion, but I think if the council marched out there and attempted to find out what was unsafe about

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John Compton: the monkey bars, I mean, the jungle gym.

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John Compton: I wouldn't expect you to see anything.

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John Compton: Well, I would like to say, for the record, that people did say that it was unsafe, and they wanted it… People said a lot. And the town council responded to that. And it was a legitimate vote, we had information.

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John Compton: And there's been no reason to overturn that vote. And I know you didn't like it, but that's what the Council voted.

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John Compton: Well, so then again, and that's what I was saying, right?

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John Compton: My belief was the due diligence that a council member

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John Compton: supposedly had done, and published a report, and claimed unsafe. And to… by looking at the ASTM standards that govern playground safety.

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John Compton: that machine, the Jungle Gym, is as safe as any other piece of equipment out there. The only unsafe issue with that that I could tell, based on ASCM standards that I've looked at, right, is

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John Compton: no different than any other piece of equipment, it's false. And with that, there's a surface and subsurface

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John Compton: depth requirements and materials to absorb the shock, right? If there's… and that's… that's the other thing. Maybe we should go back and revisit. If everybody in the Council wants to go back and take a look at that again, and take a look at what is not safe.

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Washington Grove Playground Committee: Can I say something really fast? I'm sorry, can I say something?

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John Compton: May it be a report on the… what's happening with the repairs, and now we're revisiting the whole issue of whether the general gym should be there or not, and I personally don't think this is a protective use of our time. Why don't we…

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John Compton: If you're finished with your report, I would suggest that we move on. Well, I do have one more comment about safety, though, and that wasn't brought up, that is very evident, and if you take a look at the structure for the fort with the blue slides.

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John Compton: That's fallen apart. And you talk about the benches with rotted wood and everything else, if you take a look at that, there's splinters everywhere, there's rotted wood everywhere, there's carpenter beading, boreholes all over the place, and kids are still using that piece of equipment.

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John Compton: So, you know, I guess that would be… what… what is…

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John Compton: the Playground Committee thinking to do to mitigate while we're still strategizing with RFP issues.

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John Compton: You know… Well, I applaud Andy. Bielen goes out once a month. Andy would like to make a comment, I know, but, if the capital wants to hear it, this is the time. It's a Playground Committee. I think it's Andy or, it was,

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John Compton: I thought about who? That's Oscar. Who has their… and both of them had their… Andy, you go ahead.

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Washington Grove Playground Committee: Go ahead.

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Andy Bielen: Real quick, I agree with Barbara, we don't need to spend a huge amount of time on this. You know, just to rehash on what John just said, these are items that are slated for removal.

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Andy Bielen: you know, the question is… and, you know, I think some of us would rather just do it and have it ready for when the… when the, next installations come in. If the council and or mayor prefers we wait until the trucks are unloading the new equipment, then, you know, so be it, but we'll…

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Andy Bielen: That's fine with me. I think Chris has made some excellent points about the subsurface and the surface underneath the jungle, Jim. If we want to spend a bunch of money digging that back out and putting mulch in, that's fine, but on the flip side.

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Andy Bielen: You know, it's gonna be money that is gonna be… You know, possibly…

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Andy Bielen: wasted, because we're going to be putting the new structures in that area anyway. So, it's either unsafe in its current condition, given the surface condition, or

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Andy Bielen: Like, we do nothing and a kid falls down and it gets hurt, and if the council says, well, we shouldn't remove it right now, then we have to… then we will have to deal with the surface issue, because there's… there's nothing under there right now, it's dirt.

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Andy Bielen: So, you know, that's just something for you guys to think about.

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Andy Bielen: But, you know…

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Andy Bielen: we can have our opinions, but ultimately, you're the ones that make the decision on what we are and aren't allowed to remove or remove, and when we're allowed to do that, so I'm perfectly willing to press the, servant of the people button and wait for direction from… from the town government.

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John Compton: D.

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Washington Grove Playground Committee: If I can just remind everyone, the Playground Comprehensive plan also calls for the removal of the jungle gym, and, the small slide, that kind of thing. The RFP also calls for all that, so you could vote it on 3 different occasions for that plan.

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John Compton: Okay, let's, move along.

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John Compton: on this…

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John Compton: Playground safety, report. Alright, the next item is a report that was requested on the status of the Council Workgroup on Communications. Okay, we… we have met on two occasions, have a third meeting planned.

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John Compton: The first meeting, we, discuss the,

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John Compton: use of the web page, and we decided that we would leave any modification of the webpage to John Porter and his group, although we would specifically request

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John Compton: that a much better search engine be developed for the web page. Everybody agrees that the search engine for the webpage is less than optimal.

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John Compton: And, we have put in a request that that be part of the process of improving webpage. The second, component that we dealt with has to do with the bulletin.

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John Compton: which has become, as a means of communication in town, very burdensome. It's, many, many pages long.

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John Compton: the feedback we're getting is that most people don't even bother to read it. When I… when I met with Arlene.

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John Compton: Approximately 70 people in town open the bulletin. Approximately 40 people go beyond the first page. That's about 15 and about 7% of the people who we would like to be

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John Compton: Interacting with in terms of the bulletin.

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John Compton: As a consequence, we have talked about reducing the size of the bulletin to a much more manageable product. We've gotten it down to 5 pages. I think we can get it down to 1 or 2, and what we could do is include on that one or two pages

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John Compton: links that would allow people to go into the background and see the full bulletin as it is, whether it's 17 to 20 to 25 pages. So, we're in the process of working on condensing the bulletin to make it a much more usable product for communication purposes.

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John Compton: the next meeting… the agenda is actually going to be set by Peter, which has to do with,

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John Compton: He calls the two things that we have talked about in more detail band-aids to a situation. He may be correct about that, and what he would like to do is go back and look at the situation as a whole and see if there is a larger

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John Compton: Global way of attacking the problem with communication, both coming in and going out.

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John Compton: the Council, the administration, and the community. And, Peter's going to be in charge of that meeting. It's going to be on the 14th. So, we're working on two, quote, band-aid,

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John Compton: Ways to help improve things right now, but

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John Compton: We're hoping to get a better picture of how to deal with this in a global sense.

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John Compton: I don't know if you want to comment on that. No, you actually covered everything. I was… I was just going to say that the exciting thing is that it's kind of like you said.

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John Compton: is that it's two-way. It's how does the town communicate to residents, and how do residents communicate to the town? We've heard comments from people. People are excited about the fact that the town's looking at this globally, and just like Barbara, you're working on your…

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John Compton: your complaint, your spreadsheet for things that town residents want. We track it. It's… it's… it's… there's… there's, like, somebody, I think…

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John Compton: can't use the word. But there's, like, there's not a lot of trust when people communicate with the town that action is going to be taken, because there's so many places it goes, and it's not tracked. And, like, even for me as a maintenance person.

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John Compton: when… when somebody wants something done, it takes, it takes a long time to, you know, to get them in the queue. So, that's the goal of our, you know, group here, is just to…

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John Compton: to formalize and use, you know, use technology.

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John Compton: To help build that relationship to a relationship.

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John Compton: That was… That was not in the… resolution.

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John Compton: Or about communication. That's what… that was my idea of it. And the next item on the administrative matters deals with this. I'm just saying you… I don't see what that has to do with the communications group.

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John Compton: that long talk about is communi… communications is…

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John Compton: People… other people talk to each other.

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John Compton: Yes, but that's not what the communications group was formed to do. Well, that's not my understanding of what it was formed to do. No, read the resolution.

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John Compton: So, I mean, there's a lot of things going on, but that wasn't one that was in the…

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John Compton: Basket of the communication sheet.

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John Compton: Well, we look… we have looked at 6 or 7 different other forms of communication to improve communication going in and out.

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John Compton: You know, I think if you lump all those 6 or 7 together along with the webpage and the bulletin, it sort of falls under what Peter's talking about. I don't think we're gonna… well.

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John Compton: We're gonna… we're gonna, we're gonna present back what we talk about. What we're gonna offer are very practical solutions, yeah. I mean, you know what? To get the resolution, anybody in town can get together and have this, have this discussion.

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John Compton: All right, and then we can… and then we can request. Yes. I'm not sure what your thought. I'm just seeing… I'm a little frustrated… I'm personally frustrated about these comments out of context. The next item on the agenda deals with the request for repair or maintenance of town property tracking system.

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John Compton: Right. Yes?

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John Compton: And, and…

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John Compton: That's just one… And I've reported several times that that is under construction. Well, hello… hello? We've really… yeah, that's one tool. That's not a solution to the problem we have in town, as far as how we all communicate.

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John Compton: No, but you were just detailed. It would be nice if we didn't… if we handled requests

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John Compton: to… for town officials in a more efficient way. Yeah. I know that, I've looked at Barbara, because Barbara… Barbara, we've talked, you know, I'm not sure where it is with that, but I understand, as a maintenance person, I get a lot of the requests, and I think it's great

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John Compton: the concept that I've heard. And if there's something going on that I don't know about, then I'm sorry.

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John Compton: And that's the next… Yeah, exactly. Let's finish with the report about the committee. Oh, I'm done. We're done, yeah. Okay, so in the interest of addressing that point, we'll move on to the next item on the agenda.

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John Compton: Which is a new tracking procedure. So, that procedure, I've… discussed twice.

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John Compton: As to how it could improve and make residents more aware of what's going on, feel like they're having their attention paid, and also make things easier

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John Compton: for those who are responsible for getting stuff done when it's requested. So, the status is… so, ideally.

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John Compton: The goal is to Create a system for requesting

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John Compton: Repair or maintenance, or some action about town facilities.

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John Compton: To get that into a system where the action on that request can be tracked, where…

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John Compton: Where a request can be assigned to the appropriate people.

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John Compton: who are… would be responsible, so if it's a maintenance of the, you know, a sign fell over, well, it should go to Peter, because he's the maintenance coordinator with RJ, and they can fix the sign. And there… but there are more complicated ones. We have an issue with, for example,

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John Compton: The stop sign.

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John Compton: Alright, request for a stop sign.

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John Compton: Donna's come to the town council. All right, so now it's in… now that's a request. We put this in the system. What's going on? The council has to deal with this. So, the next step is to keep on the council. What are you going to do with that request?

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John Compton: it covers… it's… the idea is to recover all… cover all these requests, and… and Anna has set up a tracking spreadsheet as an initial effort to do this. She's also drafted a form

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John Compton: That can be submitted, online.

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John Compton: saying, you know, we have a… we have a problem with, you know, tree branches or whatever. It will automatically go into the, well, at first, it may be hand put in, but should automatically go into the system.

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John Compton: somebody, being Anna, being the hub for this, will assign someone to do this. They will get an email. Guess what? Something needs attention. And then, at some point, whoever does that has to report back, I've done something. Otherwise, they will get… the system will

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John Compton: We'll identify who

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John Compton: that there's been a period of time, nothing's happened, we need to find out what's going on. So that's the idea of the system, is to… to… to put in one place, with one person, or

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John Compton: an easy way for multiple people to find out what's going on without having to come and ask individuals what's going on, because you never know the right person to ask. So the status is that it's…

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John Compton: pretty far along, and I've asked Anna to start putting all these requests in there.

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John Compton: To try and work out kinks, and we'll… we'll hopefully get this

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John Compton: Online form, up and tested to see how it works, so that, residents or anyone

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John Compton: can make their requests, get it on this tracking list, and then we'll be follow… and then follow up with the appropriate responsible parties. We'll be notified.

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John Compton: And they will then… do something.

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John Compton: And report back what's being done.

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John Compton: Doesn't mean it's been accomplished, but here's what's being… so everybody knows something's being done. That's, that's the scent of the report I want to make on this. Ideally, we get this all… this whole thing, could be on the web.

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John Compton: All right, with no intervention from anybody, with automatic emailing, with just…

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John Compton: someone making sure that it hasn't run into an unforeseen misdirection. So, I think this is what you were talking about.

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John Compton: It's like you're totally missing the entire point, so I'm sorry. Wait, wait. There are three parts to this. You're talking about the middle part. The first part is information comes in that citizens are concerned about, regardless of whether or not it's a maintenance. It may be about how we act as council members. It may be about other stuff. Information comes in. Information comes out. That's what communication's working on.

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John Compton: What you're talking about is the inside, when it's being taken care of by Anna and other people, and how we deal with it. That's fine, we're not going to touch that with a 10-foot pole. We're talking about how the community gets information in.

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John Compton: with various topics, not just maintenance, and how the information gets out to the community. It's just another request for something to be done. I mean, it, you know, who do you, you know.

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John Compton: I'll tell you what. The next report needs to be recommendations through the Council, because… Of course, we have 4 months. What? Yeah. We had 4 months. Yeah, yeah, of course. We can't get you… well, you said, you said next meeting. No, the next time we…

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John Compton: Yeah. Address this problem. Okay. Yeah, give us a chance to, like, address myself. Yeah, we're not on the same page. I think Barbara will be happy. We have a communication problem here.

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John Compton: Oh, really. Well, okay, okay, I… We're good. Let's…

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John Compton: I think it's an important thing, now that you've separated the two sorts of communications, right.

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John Compton: Yeah, then, you know, we certainly could use a wave of ensuring that Those sorts of things.

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John Compton: get responses.

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John Compton: I, I agree.

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John Compton: All right, next item is Memorial benches Requested.

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John Compton: So, in the packet, the Memorials Committee received requests

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John Compton: Or two on memorial benches. One for the Hundley family.

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01:16:50.080 --> 01:16:54.350
John Compton: Who occupied, I don't know, 11 Grove?

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John Compton: That's, Gail Whittle Littlefields, the house that he… he… Lived in?

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John Compton: and, requested a memorial bench, and they would support their… support that with funds to be placed, and I believe it's outside the hall here, place one of the benches, or…

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John Compton: And, as well, a request, for, a memorial bench for Alan Janice.

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John Compton: I believe it's in the circle, and, they, I believe are… have recommended to go ahead with these. Then that's supported by funds, so…

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John Compton: This is merely some information that those memorial benches have been approved by the committee.

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John Compton: So this is the time for if any Council wants more information about this,

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John Compton: But the Memorials Committee, which consists of…

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John Compton: for those of you who don't know, it's Georgette, Audrey, Barbara, Anna.

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01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:07.609
John Compton: Is that the committee? Something like that. Somebody else. Yeah, I don't… Yeah, that may be somebody else. Yeah.

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John Compton: Can I just make a real quick comment, though? I looked at the information that was in the Dropbox, and this is for everybody else that's online. There's a lot… there's a…

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John Compton: A lot of very good information about, these, memorial benches that we were talking… that you were talking about, and thank you for putting it

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John Compton: together. A lot of good information from the people who want the benches? Yeah, well, that's in the Dropbox, so I don't know… Yes, so… so, yes, that came from the people requesting them, but Georgette was handling that, so she's the one who

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John Compton: made that happen and brought it to me, so I did not…

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John Compton: Yeah, I didn't know, but… I didn't deserve a vote for that. For everybody that was involved, how about that? I thought it was very,

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John Compton: Enlightening and good information. Thank you. Thank you for commenting. Are you going to make a motion? Yes, I'm making a motion to approve the installment of two memorial benches, one in front of McCathran Hall in honor of the Hundley family, and one at the Circle near First Avenue in honor of that.

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John Compton: Second the motion.

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John Compton: I am sorry. I had that broken.

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01:19:18.860 --> 01:19:20.520
John Compton: Discussion launder.

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John Compton: Oh, I see.

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01:19:22.630 --> 01:19:23.450
John Compton: Sorry.

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John Compton: What are the ventures, gonna be made out of?

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John Compton: Yeah. Well, Georgette, they have, like, a company that they work with, and…

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John Compton: I don't have… Yeah, so cement and boards. Look out in, Morgan… the entrance of the town. Yeah, the regular, yeah. A new one there, shiny, looks great. Yeah. Great. I forget who it's to, maybe it was a replaced one that was there, but…

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John Compton: It's very nice, if that's something along those lines, I believe. I just asked that question so John can fix his phone. Oh, okay. All the time while I was getting an alarm. Okay.

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John Compton: All right, so we have a motion to approve these two memorial benches. I seconded it. Any other questions? Alright, John, all in favor?

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John Compton: Okay?

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John Porter: Yeah, this is John. Hi.

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John Compton: Good.

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John Compton: All right, next item on the administrative, matters agenda. So, the Council and Mayor received a request from Jill Bloom, the owner of 406 Fifth Avenue.

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John Compton: to, resolve some… I'm calling them encroachments, they may be non-compliance, I've never quite

638
01:20:41.810 --> 01:20:51.940
John Compton: Figured out which one applies when. But encroachments that, are associated with her property she's,

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01:20:52.350 --> 01:21:01.299
John Compton: She's, making this because of, obviously, the… the… the issue with the 403… 503 Macaulay.

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John Compton: And wants, you know, she's planning maybe selling her house, and wants to have the status, resolved, obviously, before she does that.

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John Compton: So, the Planning Commission has been, examining the issue, and they, have made a recommendation. The material is in the, the,

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01:21:24.930 --> 01:21:28.849
John Compton: is in the meeting materials. Now, I didn't…

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John Compton: prepare any motion, and I don't know that…

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John Compton: Do you have… I can make… I'll make the motion. They're up to remove the, encroaching brickwork.

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John Compton: along, Fifth Avenue.

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John Compton: Did I do that? Okay, well, that's… Yeah.

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Jill Bloom: This is Jill. When is it appropriate for me to speak?

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John Compton: It's not. We, we… hold on, Jill, lest you think we're going to precipitously approve this.

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John Compton: Yeah, I, I, I, I, that, the planning, as Peter's motion indicates, the Planning Commission believes that,

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John Compton: there's a brick wall along Acorn that sits on town property in front of, this, this, residence. And, so, future… future property owners, will,

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John Compton: you know, likely be required, or the request would be from the Planning Commission, to remove the brick.

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01:22:33.900 --> 01:22:36.499
John Compton: wall, and so,

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John Compton: Bill Bloom, once the Planning Commission has looked at it, and they are now recommending that this wall be removed.

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John Compton: before, or coincidentally with sale of the house. So, once again, this is a situation where I don't believe

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John Compton: the Planning Commission is saying, you know, alright, you've had your wall up till now, now it needs to go.

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John Compton: What they're saying is that this property owner These… this is okay.

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John Compton: But the next property owner, it needs to be resolved for the next property. Is that correct? Right, so, yes, and just those two points. We call it a triggering event, and we have had numerous

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John Compton: Anytime somebody's selling a house, the town looks at

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John Compton: what's the town land that's been encroached upon? Which is a lot of it here. And… and we recommend that the town gets their land back.

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01:23:41.360 --> 01:23:44.009
John Compton: It's as simple as that. And,

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John Compton: I'll just… I'll just leave it at that. That's… that's… that's consistency. We try to treat everybody the same way.

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John Compton: Okay, so… I can say one other thing is that there is… there is some, land in the back.

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John Compton: On the avenue of the house, and if you read… sorry, I'll go into that. Okay, so that's basically… and the Planning Commission unanimously voted, as we have in many other situations, that this should be restored. It's… I mean, I can give you some reasons why, besides that, just to be consistent, it's also from a maintenance point of view. Talking with Steve, he says that it's a challenge.

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John Compton: Removing snow.

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John Compton: from that area, because it's very narrow there. And that… that… and it's also falling… you know, it's all falling down, it needs to be redone. So, I'll just leave it at that.

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John Compton: Okay, so we have the property owner here, but, you know, it's up to the council whether you want to hear her

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John Compton: response to this, I recommend that in… to… to keep.

668
01:24:50.450 --> 01:24:58.799
John Compton: To keep to our, procedural, intentions, that we defer action on this

669
01:24:59.870 --> 01:25:15.350
John Compton: proposal from the, and from the Planning Commission, and until September, and, and we'll have a, an opportunity then to, hear

670
01:25:17.440 --> 01:25:35.809
John Compton: Jill's point of view on this, and, and act then, and hear any other point of view from any other town residents. And you're right, the triggering event doesn't happen until the house is sold, so… So, you're saying to hear from her in a public appearance? Public appearance? Yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah.

671
01:25:36.420 --> 01:25:38.350
John Compton: Okay. That makes sense.

672
01:25:39.300 --> 01:25:47.800
John Compton: It's just, yeah, I mean, I think we're doing it a favor, because when you sell… I don't know the name of the situations that go on right now, but when you're selling a house.

673
01:25:47.810 --> 01:26:00.140
John Compton: it's a factor of whether that's there or not. And so, to me, if I was a homeowner, I would like to get that resolved ASAP, but that's not, you know, that's… I'm just throwing that out there. All right.

674
01:26:00.420 --> 01:26:06.440
Jill Bloom: Can I request clarification? We're deferring this until next month, and I can speak then? Is that the…

675
01:26:06.440 --> 01:26:09.959
John Compton: Absolutely, that's part of the reason, yes. At the public…

676
01:26:11.700 --> 01:26:13.900
Jill Bloom: You mean I'd have to come in, that's fine.

677
01:26:14.200 --> 01:26:17.590
John Compton: Okay. Okay, thank you. Yeah, okay.

678
01:26:19.300 --> 01:26:20.640
John Compton: Okay.

679
01:26:20.810 --> 01:26:29.920
John Compton: So, all in favor of deferring action on the motion until next week.

680
01:26:30.130 --> 01:26:33.540
John Compton: I see 4 here. Mary, John?

681
01:26:35.050 --> 01:26:37.380
John Porter: Good. John… John, this is John. Hi.

682
01:26:38.160 --> 01:26:48.440
John Compton: Okay, so 6 in favorites. All right, the last item on the administrative matters… Is a,

683
01:26:49.290 --> 01:27:00.440
John Compton: It is an alteration to, our, the requirements to meet our, zoning, zoning

684
01:27:01.550 --> 01:27:03.410
John Compton: to meet zoning…

685
01:27:03.880 --> 01:27:17.790
John Compton: I have to use the term requirements again, under certain conditions, where, historic preservation, considerations might allow

686
01:27:17.900 --> 01:27:25.869
John Compton: For, those, for a waiver of, the zoning,

687
01:27:26.120 --> 01:27:41.449
John Compton: requirements, such as setbacks, or floor area ratios, or whatever else. All of it intended to facilitate making a house which is compromised by a small lot, or

688
01:27:41.780 --> 01:27:49.350
John Compton: Location of the building, or whatever, to, be modernized.

689
01:27:49.410 --> 01:28:04.990
John Compton: As long as it retains, its historic, character. And the process of the waiver, in, in the materials.

690
01:28:05.360 --> 01:28:07.029
John Compton: Are the initial…

691
01:28:07.310 --> 01:28:13.800
John Compton: An initial draft, by no means a final draft of what that zoning ordinance might look like.

692
01:28:14.260 --> 01:28:19.640
John Compton: And the rationale for doing it. The Planning Commission and the HPC have been

693
01:28:19.640 --> 01:28:42.560
John Compton: batting this back and forth now for months, and they will put together an actual zoning text amendment for the Council to consider. In the meantime, anyone who wants to communicate with them, feel free to, although you can just wait until that arrives at the Council.

694
01:28:42.740 --> 01:28:47.240
John Compton: Because there is an extended process to,

695
01:28:47.440 --> 01:28:52.920
John Compton: to, approve zoning text amendments. Oh, don't we have the zoning text amendment?

696
01:28:54.620 --> 01:28:58.770
John Compton: According to the letter from Georgette, No.

697
01:28:59.660 --> 01:29:03.709
John Compton: I didn't get a communication that this was the one you wanted.

698
01:29:04.020 --> 01:29:05.200
John Compton: Introduced.

699
01:29:05.660 --> 01:29:06.480
John Compton: And pretty true.

700
01:29:06.480 --> 01:29:07.459
Georgette Cole: That's what the plan.

701
01:29:07.460 --> 01:29:11.190
John Compton: Yes, Georgette?

702
01:29:11.690 --> 01:29:20.510
Georgette Cole: My recollection was that the Planning Commission voted to send it to the Town Council for introduction.

703
01:29:20.820 --> 01:29:33.920
Georgette Cole: I believe that means that the Town… that the Planning Commission felt that it was formatted as a ZTA, eligible as a ZTA, and ready for the Town Council to think about quite seriously.

704
01:29:35.070 --> 01:29:38.810
Georgette Cole: Peter, you, you should be able to address that as well.

705
01:29:39.200 --> 01:29:41.870
John Compton: Yeah, that was my understanding, is that…

706
01:29:41.970 --> 01:29:54.560
John Compton: we're gonna move forward with this. I was just going to ask… we don't have a motion, so we should have a motion first, right? Well, yeah, this was information. Now, if you want to… Oh, I would just like to maybe discuss it real quickly. We…

707
01:29:55.490 --> 01:30:02.059
John Compton: I… we're… It's not… discuss the… the ordinance? Yeah.

708
01:30:02.450 --> 01:30:16.240
John Compton: You have to introduce it. Yeah, right. So I would make a motion to… a motion to introduce the ordinance. Okay. A motion to… Approve. We don't really… can we approve it? Because it has to… No, it's a second. There's a second…

709
01:30:16.240 --> 01:30:24.470
John Compton: Introduction is not a motion to approve. Introduction allows you to debate. Right. A motion to approve calls for a vote. Right.

710
01:30:24.880 --> 01:30:29.659
John Compton: Right? Well… Okay, okay, I don't think… So you're gonna have a separate motion, then, after?

711
01:30:30.080 --> 01:30:33.209
John Compton: You're gonna move to introduce it.

712
01:30:33.690 --> 01:30:45.290
John Compton: Well, I guess it can become public. Any public hearing, though, before it's approved? Yes, right. Yeah, so we're not going to vote on it tonight, but that doesn't mean you can't make a motion to approve it.

713
01:30:45.990 --> 01:30:52.739
John Compton: Is that the whole point? I'll make a motion to approve it. Six and one, half a dozen. Oh, alright.

714
01:30:52.740 --> 01:30:53.240
Georgette Cole: Hold on a second.

715
01:30:53.240 --> 01:30:53.630
John Compton: that.

716
01:30:53.630 --> 01:31:00.040
Georgette Cole: I'm… wait a moment, please. This is a zoning text amendment. You cannot simply approve it.

717
01:31:00.040 --> 01:31:00.590
John Compton: But…

718
01:31:00.590 --> 01:31:09.989
Georgette Cole: It's an Article 7 zoning text amendment. It needs to be introduced, it needs to be considered, it needs to have a public hearing.

719
01:31:10.370 --> 01:31:11.210
John Compton: Yes.

720
01:31:11.210 --> 01:31:14.169
Georgette Cole: Before you can move anywhere toward approving it.

721
01:31:14.340 --> 01:31:16.009
John Compton: Sorry. Yes.

722
01:31:16.470 --> 01:31:17.040
Georgette Cole: Pardon me.

723
01:31:17.040 --> 01:31:30.799
John Compton: That's correct. So what do we do to have… to open it up so we can have a brief discussion? My understanding is you introduce it, you can discuss it… Whatever you want. We have a… we have… we have a public hearing, and then we…

724
01:31:32.050 --> 01:31:39.880
John Compton: May amend it. You may make a motion to approve it, and you may still amend it, and finally you call for vote.

725
01:31:41.750 --> 01:31:56.160
John Compton: So, introduce it. I make a motion to introduce this, this, all right, it is, and I can show it here, but it's not going to be… Yeah, I was just going to ask if you all had the chance to, to read it, if you had questions that we could…

726
01:31:56.290 --> 01:32:00.660
John Compton: I have a question. What is,

727
01:32:00.890 --> 01:32:04.289
John Compton: When are you gonna give it to the attorney to review?

728
01:32:04.990 --> 01:32:06.090
John Compton: Good question.

729
01:32:06.720 --> 01:32:14.649
John Compton: I know that, It seems like it's not clear exactly that what copy version we have.

730
01:32:15.270 --> 01:32:26.120
John Compton: I'll show you what I have. That's why I have this not as actually being introduced, because it actually hasn't gone through a…

731
01:32:26.280 --> 01:32:28.700
John Compton: what I would consider a bold.

732
01:32:30.580 --> 01:32:33.540
John Compton: Preparation, if you will, for,

733
01:32:35.060 --> 01:32:45.270
John Compton: for an introduction, but, you know, I can show you what's here. Here it is. I think that's what we're looking at. Yeah. We don't have it. We have it.

734
01:32:45.380 --> 01:32:48.900
John Compton: Well, I'll show everybody, because…

735
01:32:49.600 --> 01:32:51.939
John Compton: This is what we're talking about here.

736
01:32:52.490 --> 01:33:11.490
John Compton: Yeah, our goal is to get to the next step and schedule a public hearing. That's the goal, is to move forward, unless the Council has an issue with anything in there. It's pretty… it's very straightforward, and it would be good to answer your questions as a group now, versus waiting a month.

737
01:33:12.780 --> 01:33:16.690
John Compton: Although we've been here… the town's been around for a long time.

738
01:33:18.130 --> 01:33:22.039
John Compton: So, Georgette, the reason I thought this was just a…

739
01:33:22.290 --> 01:33:27.660
John Compton: draft is because this accepted by Planning Commission has no date on it.

740
01:33:29.170 --> 01:33:32.700
John Compton: So I assumed it was not the one you wanted.

741
01:33:32.870 --> 01:33:34.080
John Compton: introduced.

742
01:33:34.310 --> 01:33:35.850
John Compton: Yeah, it could be.

743
01:33:36.910 --> 01:33:40.100
John Compton: Barber's correct.

744
01:33:40.680 --> 01:33:55.089
John Compton: This ought to be reviewed by the town attorney, to be reviewed after introduction, probably better to do it before introduction, because, you know, to make sure it's… everything is in order.

745
01:33:57.000 --> 01:34:01.490
Georgette Cole: Yes, actually, the Planning Commission would be very happy about that. That would be great.

746
01:34:03.330 --> 01:34:09.990
John Compton: All right, so we have had it introduced, and I propose that we defer further discussion

747
01:34:11.020 --> 01:34:22.220
John Compton: Until the town attorney, or… And anyone else reviews what the ordinance actually says, to make sure it,

748
01:34:22.360 --> 01:34:30.979
John Compton: it, it, it… Addresses everything that needs to be addressed to introduce… to achieve its goals.

749
01:34:32.620 --> 01:34:39.859
John Compton: All right. So in September, we'll take the next step in September. Yeah, hopefully, yeah. Schedule that, schedule a meeting, and all that. Okay.

750
01:34:44.500 --> 01:34:45.730
John Compton: Alright.

751
01:34:45.730 --> 01:35:10.719
John Compton: But I was still curious, we have councils here. I'm still curious, and I haven't really heard any feedback from anybody about this, and it is… it's, you know, it's given the Planning Commission a new type of power, and so I was wondering if there were any concerns, or anything that we should be aware of. So, I would just say that I was, like, following along, because I'm liaison for HPC, so I was really following this process as it was going on.

752
01:35:10.720 --> 01:35:11.470
John Compton: on.

753
01:35:11.470 --> 01:35:28.440
John Compton: And the idea is, if you have an old historic house, and you want to do something to make it more livable, like, you know, put a nice little porch there, but, you know, you're going to run into these setback problems, but maybe it's not really that bad of a problem.

754
01:35:28.440 --> 01:35:37.580
John Compton: And so, you can have an exception to some of the rules, because we want to see a nice porch on your house, and if it's not…

755
01:35:37.680 --> 01:35:51.100
John Compton: encumbering somebody else, you know, so it adds flexibility to homeowners who want to make improvements, so… And the real… the real thing here, the real fear here is,

756
01:35:51.500 --> 01:35:55.730
John Compton: I don't know, do you talk about somebody talked about it. Oh, it was Bill at all, sorry. But that…

757
01:35:55.920 --> 01:36:14.449
John Compton: because of the constrictions on the lot, like the house right next to me, which is 800 square feet, basically, it's gonna be a $500,000 house, is that most people would go, knock it down, and build a box. And our goal is to keep, you know, our historic houses and all that, and right now, you'd have to go to the DZA,

758
01:36:14.530 --> 01:36:24.900
John Compton: to have anything done, and what we're trying to do is make it a little bit more flexible for the sake of the town, that's all. And I think, you know, and I think it's very simple. Yes.

759
01:36:25.990 --> 01:36:26.770
John Compton: Good.

760
01:36:30.620 --> 01:36:36.069
John Compton: All right, we have consensus, then, to defer further discussion until next.

761
01:36:36.330 --> 01:36:45.360
John Compton: month, when we will have, hopefully the Planning Commission will have some input from the Town Attorney and anyone else who…

762
01:36:45.860 --> 01:36:47.599
John Compton: Wants to speak up on us.

763
01:36:48.110 --> 01:36:52.490
John Compton: Do we have… do we have, like, a big… we don't have a backlogger with her, do we? The attorney?

764
01:36:52.800 --> 01:37:04.770
John Compton: A what? A backlog. Yes. We do have a backlog? Yes. How big is it, like… Well, we're about to address two of them. Oh, oh, yeah. And there's another one that,

765
01:37:05.230 --> 01:37:24.879
John Compton: We've requested the insurance, explanation. Right, right. She's still working on lighting. Yeah. All while she's working on the lighting. Yeah. That's huge. Yes. Simply put that extra $5,000 or whatever. Okay. Alright.

766
01:37:27.930 --> 01:37:35.009
John Compton: Okay, so the next item of business is Ordinance 2026, that's authorizing the easement

767
01:37:35.120 --> 01:37:41.429
John Compton: To Montgomery County Duke Stone and the Washington Grove Connector to the end of Brown Street, we had the public hearing.

768
01:37:41.620 --> 01:37:46.969
John Compton: the, the… Ordinance,

769
01:37:47.670 --> 01:37:57.399
John Compton: Was… was drafted by our town attorney, well, and the easement, was drafted by the county.

770
01:37:57.560 --> 01:38:11.850
John Compton: And has been, we've requested, additional terms. Well, modification and additional terms, minor modification, and we have yet to hear back from the county on that.

771
01:38:12.240 --> 01:38:20.619
John Compton: the suggestion from the Department of Transportation property,

772
01:38:22.290 --> 01:38:39.899
John Compton: expert or individual, is that the county attorney's not going to like, one of our, at least one of our terms, but that probably a, an MOU, Memorandum of Understanding, may suffice

773
01:38:39.900 --> 01:38:55.100
John Compton: for our concerns, and will be more acceptable to the county, rather than cluttering up their easements with, with, with, codicils, they have trouble,

774
01:38:55.310 --> 01:39:04.639
John Compton: trouble accepting. So, the… Consequence is that whereas we,

775
01:39:05.250 --> 01:39:08.590
John Compton: At the public hearing, and could potentially

776
01:39:08.690 --> 01:39:25.809
John Compton: approve this ordinance. We don't actually have the easement terms settled, so on recommendation of our town attorney, and so Ellen's here, but she doesn't need to say anything, because she's convinced me that we should therefore not act on

777
01:39:25.930 --> 01:39:37.460
John Compton: this ordinance, until the easement, it's clear how… what the easement terms, Where the easement terms stand.

778
01:39:37.730 --> 01:39:45.329
John Compton: After this negotiation. So… as Barbara knows, and, by…

779
01:39:45.430 --> 01:39:54.820
John Compton: Pathway Committee is concerned that this easement may hold up progress to construction.

780
01:39:54.940 --> 01:40:02.759
John Compton: While we could defer this till September, I am going to propose that the Council set a special Town Council meeting

781
01:40:03.260 --> 01:40:06.130
John Compton: In a couple of weeks.

782
01:40:07.810 --> 01:40:11.590
John Compton: I'm suggesting Tuesday, August 25th.

783
01:40:12.480 --> 01:40:17.409
John Compton: Which would allow notice to go out tomorrow.

784
01:40:17.860 --> 01:40:27.949
John Compton: If I sent notice out before midnight tonight, I suppose we can do it two weeks from today, Monday, but I'm suggesting Tuesday as the earliest day we can do this.

785
01:40:28.600 --> 01:40:29.280
John Compton: oven.

786
01:40:30.050 --> 01:40:34.650
John Compton: If anyone has, I mean, that's my suggestion.

787
01:40:34.840 --> 01:40:48.070
John Compton: By which time, we hopefully will have been back and forth with the county and be more certain as to what we are approving in terms of an easement. Do you anticipate a vote that night?

788
01:40:48.290 --> 01:40:54.360
John Compton: Sorry? Do you anticipate a vote that night to… Yes, this would be to discuss the…

789
01:40:55.390 --> 01:41:14.540
John Compton: terms of the easement and… But also to make a final vote. Yeah, make a final vote. So, we think that we'll have it by then? I don't know. If we don't have it, then we can cancel the meeting. Okay. Well, I will be somewhere in the backcountry in the Adirondacks, so that will not work for me.

790
01:41:16.310 --> 01:41:21.770
John Compton: Possibly I could be online on the 26th or 27th?

791
01:41:22.310 --> 01:41:31.599
John Compton: Wednesday the 27th? Am I… Wednesday. Do I have everything in the right dates? I have no idea if I do. 27th would be better, because…

792
01:41:33.250 --> 01:41:43.270
John Compton: 27th would be better. 27th. The September Council meeting is on the 14th, which is why I'm trying to put one in here. It's a… Yeah, yeah, I can check. It's more than a month from tonight.

793
01:41:43.510 --> 01:41:49.340
John Compton: Great. The 27th? I'm good for that. 27th?

794
01:41:49.460 --> 01:41:58.759
John Compton: So, so I'm going to be out of town also, but I should have Wi-Fi. Okay. I mean, we can restrict the council meeting solely to this issue.

795
01:41:59.130 --> 01:42:04.839
John Compton: Or maybe in addition to the next issue, we'll see. Okay.

796
01:42:06.090 --> 01:42:11.659
John Compton: So, Alright, so I hear…

797
01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:21.259
John Compton: Four people here are okay with the Wednesday, the… sorry, Thursday, the 27th of August? How about Mary and John?

798
01:42:23.640 --> 01:42:24.859
John Porter: I'm good with it, that's good.

799
01:42:26.270 --> 01:42:32.759
John Compton: John says, okay, Mary, okay. All right, so we'll set a special council meeting, and I'll get the notice out tomorrow.

800
01:42:32.900 --> 01:42:39.300
John Compton: Well, to, with the, with the, with the agenda containing,

801
01:42:39.630 --> 01:42:44.119
John Compton: this easement. And, if, for some reason.

802
01:42:44.260 --> 01:42:47.130
John Compton: We aren't, we don't… haven't.

803
01:42:48.190 --> 01:42:49.840
John Compton: Progressed far enough.

804
01:42:50.010 --> 01:42:52.930
John Compton: to actually vote on this, then I may just…

805
01:42:53.330 --> 01:42:57.729
John Compton: Cancel that, and I'll defer it till September. What time are you gonna make it for them?

806
01:42:58.380 --> 01:43:01.660
John Compton: Right. What time you gonna make it for? 7.30?

807
01:43:04.190 --> 01:43:05.360
John Compton: Okay.

808
01:43:06.100 --> 01:43:20.299
John Compton: All right, next item on business… next item of business is actually a new, ordinance, authorizing a driveway access easement to the owners of 503 Macaulay.

809
01:43:20.490 --> 01:43:26.170
John Compton: And you will have seen that ordinance in the materials.

810
01:43:27.110 --> 01:43:30.000
John Compton: And I can put it up here.

811
01:43:30.320 --> 01:43:31.910
John Compton: There's some raw engagement.

812
01:43:32.280 --> 01:43:34.949
John Compton: That's… an ease of fun.

813
01:43:36.030 --> 01:43:45.740
John Compton: But I need to give you an update on the status of, Final, this has got everything.

814
01:43:48.280 --> 01:43:49.330
John Compton: Okay.

815
01:43:56.530 --> 01:43:57.240
John Compton: Alright.

816
01:43:59.760 --> 01:44:12.580
John Compton: Okay, so, without rehashing, you know, where this whole matter, the, I proposed…

817
01:44:13.100 --> 01:44:20.469
John Compton: And with some consultation with some council members, that to resolve the,

818
01:44:20.710 --> 01:44:25.860
John Compton: the interest of the Council in recovering

819
01:44:26.110 --> 01:44:31.800
John Compton: The 5th and 6th Avenue adjacent to 503 as walkway only.

820
01:44:32.330 --> 01:44:45.449
John Compton: that, we offer, the property owners, the Tolstroms, to build a… an access across our Lot 1 in Block 18 between McCauley Street

821
01:44:45.850 --> 01:44:52.840
John Compton: and their lot, too. And, we have negotiated what that would look like.

822
01:44:53.130 --> 01:45:05.879
John Compton: And it's that… That… constitutes an agreement, between the town and the Tallstroms, as to

823
01:45:06.220 --> 01:45:08.200
John Compton: As to who will do what.

824
01:45:08.570 --> 01:45:17.250
John Compton: To resolve their driveway access to their property,

825
01:45:17.820 --> 01:45:21.580
John Compton: Prior to sale of their property.

826
01:45:22.350 --> 01:45:32.240
John Compton: The settlement agreement is there. That settlement agreement, the terms of the settlement agreement are still, being,

827
01:45:33.400 --> 01:45:35.879
John Compton: Revised, negotiated.

828
01:45:36.270 --> 01:45:43.750
John Compton: And, I… I… we have Suella in here, and I see…

829
01:45:44.150 --> 01:45:51.120
John Compton: who perhaps is willing to comment on… have we heard anything about your… I wouldn't expect to, but…

830
01:45:51.280 --> 01:45:57.830
John Compton: We returned, a, a revised, draft, so, Owen?

831
01:45:59.850 --> 01:46:05.690
SMF: No, nothing further, this evening, so there's no final, but the…

832
01:46:05.970 --> 01:46:08.779
SMF: Reason to get it introduced this evening.

833
01:46:09.180 --> 01:46:14.860
SMF: is because the… I think the broad outlines of the agreement are there.

834
01:46:15.280 --> 01:46:17.870
SMF: And this is an ordinance.

835
01:46:18.090 --> 01:46:22.129
SMF: So that 20 days has to… notice has to be given.

836
01:46:22.480 --> 01:46:32.999
SMF: There are time pressures on this transaction, because the owners wish to sell the property and have all this resolved beforehand.

837
01:46:33.420 --> 01:46:37.569
SMF: And so, to get the appropriate amount of time.

838
01:46:37.780 --> 01:46:44.560
SMF: frame involved here. You should go ahead and introduce the ordinance. They have no objection.

839
01:46:44.760 --> 01:46:47.230
SMF: To the wording of the ordinance.

840
01:46:47.400 --> 01:46:55.090
SMF: The items that are still in some discussion are the easement for the driveway and the settlement agreement.

841
01:46:55.530 --> 01:47:10.999
SMF: So, but the wording of the ordinance, has been agreed upon, for your review. Obviously, the Council has to adopt the ordinance, but there's no dispute between, the draft… on the drafting.

842
01:47:11.220 --> 01:47:16.089
SMF: So the proposal is, this get introduced this evening, you have the drafts.

843
01:47:16.330 --> 01:47:27.929
SMF: of the settlement agreement and the easement. Those are still being discussed to a certain degree, but this will allow that to be completed and to have the ordinance

844
01:47:28.120 --> 01:47:32.229
SMF: Adopted after the 20 days, but still in a timely way.

845
01:47:36.590 --> 01:47:37.909
John Compton: Thank you, Siobhan.

846
01:47:38.770 --> 01:47:45.050
John Compton: Okay, so tonight we're introducing the ordinance It had references.

847
01:47:45.430 --> 01:47:50.480
John Compton: An easement document and a settlement agreement, both of which may be subject to

848
01:47:51.350 --> 01:48:05.230
John Compton: We are being subject to adjustment, but we want to schedule, as Helen said, the public hearing and move the ordinance process along while those details are finalized.

849
01:48:08.200 --> 01:48:12.830
John Compton: All right, so I need, need a motion… So, so we're talking about, right now.

850
01:48:13.670 --> 01:48:26.069
John Compton: just the easement. We're not talking about… we're gonna now… after that, we're going to be talking about who's paying for what, and construction, and all that. The settlement agreement does… does, contain who's paying for what.

851
01:48:26.820 --> 01:48:27.660
John Compton: Yes.

852
01:48:27.870 --> 01:48:36.170
John Compton: So what exactly are we… And by approving this ordinance, we'll be approving the settlement agreement.

853
01:48:37.180 --> 01:48:40.379
John Compton: Okay, so the currently the terms are…

854
01:48:40.730 --> 01:48:58.249
John Compton: That the driveway, the current driveway will be abandoned. The driveway from law… that, from whatever point the Charlestons choose, that is not on 5th or 6th Avenue.

855
01:48:58.340 --> 01:49:01.460
John Compton: will be extended through Lot 2 and 3.

856
01:49:02.480 --> 01:49:19.829
John Compton: it will be the one near… next to Fifth Avenue, so along Fifth Avenue, parallel, and that will intersect a, the extension of that driveway across the town's Lot 1 to, the pavement on McCauley Street.

857
01:49:19.910 --> 01:49:24.759
John Compton: The town will pay for the driveway installation.

858
01:49:25.570 --> 01:49:30.459
John Compton: on Lot 1, and we'll grant, the Charlestoms and…

859
01:49:30.730 --> 01:49:40.080
John Compton: obviously future property owners. An easement to use the Lot 1 property Described, so such and such.

860
01:49:40.440 --> 01:49:41.489
John Compton: For a driveway.

861
01:49:41.960 --> 01:49:49.550
John Compton: And the Charlestoners will agree to, create the drive with a new driveway between their lot 4,

862
01:49:50.200 --> 01:50:00.720
John Compton: To bring it to the part the town is going to install. There's a few other things. We're going to… we want to move to…

863
01:50:01.080 --> 01:50:05.330
John Compton: Restore the walkways from, being

864
01:50:06.380 --> 01:50:19.499
John Compton: clearly driveway, driveway… But that's not really relevant to… Well, it is, it's part of the settlement agreement. Why would it be? No, because it's not theirs, so why would that be a settlement?

865
01:50:21.060 --> 01:50:23.599
John Compton: I'm just asking.

866
01:50:26.090 --> 01:50:42.999
John Compton: I don't know why… or to me, those are two separate… two separate items. Well, okay, read the settlement agreement, you can argue it later. It's not… not a big deal, because the very next thing on the agenda is I'm going to recommend that we spend funds to execute.

867
01:50:43.000 --> 01:50:50.650
John Compton: our part of the system, okay? Which we… I don't think there'll be any argument about if you agree with this…

868
01:50:50.760 --> 01:50:56.930
John Compton: the way this is going, then there shouldn't be any disagreement about expending the funds.

869
01:50:57.430 --> 01:51:01.829
John Compton: Okay, I mean, you know, we don't have to do anything about the…

870
01:51:02.070 --> 01:51:20.610
John Compton: the two, avenues, but I don't think we want them looking like driveways. No, we're gonna do them, I just don't understand, but… but I don't… I just don't see why… Why don't convert them from being driveways to not being driveways. Yeah, but I don't understand why that has anything to do with this… I was requested by…

871
01:51:21.580 --> 01:51:24.539
John Compton: Okay, it was requested by…

872
01:51:25.030 --> 01:51:29.929
John Compton: And I did not see any reason not to, because, as you say, we were going to do it anyway.

873
01:51:30.520 --> 01:51:34.250
John Compton: Okay. It's just that we… I think their point…

874
01:51:34.870 --> 01:51:40.690
John Compton: Not putting words in other people's mouths, is they were not going to be involved in

875
01:51:41.650 --> 01:51:54.700
John Compton: undoing the driveway nature of the walkway. What was the issue? Right, okay. Rather than saying that negatively, you say it positively. The town will deal with the driveway. So I have one other question.

876
01:51:54.800 --> 01:52:13.339
John Compton: And, and I'll trust you in what you say. You know, speaking from the perspective of Planning Commission, this is something, to my knowledge, is kind of unique in us paying for this, for this, and have you thought about other ramifications in the future?

877
01:52:13.780 --> 01:52:18.510
John Compton: consistency for other residents, although I don't know if they're either.

878
01:52:18.790 --> 01:52:27.939
John Compton: Yeah, well, of course you've thought about it. I've thought about it, I've discussed it with Georgette, I think I've discussed it with a few other people. This is a relent…

879
01:52:28.600 --> 01:52:40.400
John Compton: nearly unique situation, where without… where a property's from lots 2 through 6, do not…

880
01:52:40.920 --> 01:52:50.040
John Compton: have immediate… are not immediately adjacent to a vehicular right-of-way. They are adjacent to walkways.

881
01:52:50.190 --> 01:52:58.120
John Compton: That's it. So, we have a unique situation with respect to that. Actually, there are two other properties that are in the same situation.

882
01:52:59.160 --> 01:53:05.400
John Compton: down Macaulay. And therefore, in order to

883
01:53:05.960 --> 01:53:11.790
John Compton: provide the alternative access to Macaulay after it costs the town's Lot 1.

884
01:53:12.520 --> 01:53:20.959
John Compton: So, that's the town's property, and hence this… this, this approach to,

885
01:53:21.450 --> 01:53:30.850
John Compton: basically providing what everybody… what everybody needs and or wants. They need a driveway access.

886
01:53:31.420 --> 01:53:42.060
John Compton: To Macaulay, and we would like it not to be on the walkways. So we do that, and yes, the cost to the town to arrive at that is to install

887
01:53:43.670 --> 01:53:45.700
John Compton: A driveway across slot 1.

888
01:53:46.680 --> 01:53:47.530
John Compton: Okay?

889
01:53:48.030 --> 01:54:00.279
John Compton: No, that's fine. There is nowhere else. If there are… No, there's a circle house… there's houses that are landlocked in the grove. Yes. Well, yes, but they don't…

890
01:54:01.350 --> 01:54:08.360
John Compton: They don't have town property interfering with their access.

891
01:54:11.440 --> 01:54:13.160
John Compton: Do they? Yes.

892
01:54:13.370 --> 01:54:18.550
John Compton: Well, it's a walk… it's a walkway. We have… we have some situations, but anyway, it's not…

893
01:54:18.700 --> 01:54:37.579
John Compton: we wrestle with this, we don't know what the answer is, I'm not going to do it tonight, and we really have to, you know, get this off the plate, so… You asked the question, I… Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm just… yeah, yeah. Well, you… I take my question back. Yeah. Can you, can you move this to the August Special Meeting?

894
01:54:37.990 --> 01:54:42.540
John Compton: No, as Joel reminded me, you have to…

895
01:54:42.700 --> 01:54:58.520
John Compton: For a land exchange, you have to give 20 days notice before the… for the public to respond. We did that for the easement down there at Brown Street, because we did that in July.

896
01:54:59.720 --> 01:55:00.590
John Compton: Yep.

897
01:55:01.950 --> 01:55:06.460
John Compton: Yeah, so, and now we have to do it for this one, and…

898
01:55:06.580 --> 01:55:10.600
John Compton: You know, we would have to… Hang on, yeah.

899
01:55:11.490 --> 01:55:14.309
John Compton: We couldn't do it on the 27th.

900
01:55:14.620 --> 01:55:16.480
John Compton: Okay.

901
01:55:19.480 --> 01:55:20.430
John Compton: Alright.

902
01:55:20.700 --> 01:55:21.840
John Compton: So…

903
01:55:22.470 --> 01:55:34.350
John Compton: If there is no other discussion, the ordinance has been introduced. We'll set the public hearing, then, for the September 14th

904
01:55:34.540 --> 01:55:37.160
John Compton: Meeting of the Town Council.

905
01:55:40.110 --> 01:55:43.970
John Compton: And, assuming all of the…

906
01:55:44.180 --> 01:55:54.450
John Compton: I's are dotted and the T's are crossed in the settlement agreement and the easement document, we can, the Council can vote on it after the public hearing.

907
01:55:54.920 --> 01:55:57.090
John Compton: Barring any unforeseen…

908
01:55:57.830 --> 01:56:15.290
John Compton: But you were saying that we're not… Hiccups. We're not 100% there, yeah, as far as… Not with the easement and the… On both parties. What? Both parties have not agreed yet. No. No. A lot of it's just wording. Right, okay, yeah. A couple of… Okay.

909
01:56:16.420 --> 01:56:17.490
John Compton: Okay.

910
01:56:19.260 --> 01:56:31.309
John Compton: Alrighty, then, the next item is… I would… I would like to have a motion to allow, the town to… to construct the driveway.

911
01:56:31.580 --> 01:56:34.960
John Compton: I'll cross, In Lot 1.

912
01:56:35.160 --> 01:56:55.050
John Compton: in Block 18. The reason to do that now is in order to create meets and bounds, we either have to lay out the dang driveway, do a survey, and put all that into the easement, which we have to do anyway, or we can make the driveway and then measure where it is and put it into the

913
01:56:55.710 --> 01:56:58.619
John Compton: And put it into the,

914
01:56:58.960 --> 01:57:09.589
John Compton: the easement. Remember, the ordinance is authorizing the easement, so after the ordinance is all passed, and the 30 days of reaction time

915
01:57:09.930 --> 01:57:11.860
John Compton: To become effective.

916
01:57:11.970 --> 01:57:36.089
John Compton: only then can you sign the easement. So, before then, we have to have completed this… this business, and so I'm requesting, funds to, do the driveway, and at the same time, because I asked RJ for a proposal that would also, remove gravel, the existing driveway-style gravel, and

917
01:57:36.600 --> 01:57:44.479
John Compton: regrade the two walkways and install our typical walkway gravel. It's a different size.

918
01:57:45.720 --> 01:57:54.159
John Compton: to make it more… look more like a walkway. So, those funds I'm requesting, I… the proposal from RJ is there, it's about…

919
01:57:54.330 --> 01:57:56.840
John Compton: $4,000,

920
01:57:57.140 --> 01:58:06.229
John Compton: A little over $4,000? I make a motion to expend funds to construct a driveway to 503 McCalling. Okay.

921
01:58:07.090 --> 01:58:11.599
John Compton: Right, and I think there was one more… I'm forgetting something here.

922
01:58:11.980 --> 01:58:14.069
John Compton: Something else was in there.

923
01:58:14.640 --> 01:58:17.290
John Compton: I apologize for not having this.

924
01:58:18.010 --> 01:58:25.220
John Compton: Immediately, here's the motion. I just want to make sure I covered my… Here it is.

925
01:58:27.770 --> 01:58:31.280
John Compton: Oh, right. There were two motions, got it.

926
01:58:31.400 --> 01:58:33.010
John Compton: I just brought up the wrong one.

927
01:58:37.340 --> 01:58:41.889
John Compton: Yes, it's up to $5,000 to construct the gravel driveway, you know.

928
01:58:42.060 --> 01:58:58.120
John Compton: where it's going, and a partially restore it for 6th Avenue. So when you say partially, I'm just… is 6th Avenue gonna go through, or is that only going to do? No, we're just going to work on the part of the walkways which are currently being used for driveway.

929
01:58:58.330 --> 01:58:59.280
John Compton: That's all.

930
01:58:59.650 --> 01:59:00.410
John Compton: Okay.

931
01:59:00.490 --> 01:59:19.620
John Compton: Future projects are future projects. We don't have a project. I see what you say. Okay, good. And then, did you say that we're going to have surveying being done? Okay, so the second… Oh, that's the second motion is that, in order to fully describe this easement, we may need to do an actual

932
01:59:19.620 --> 01:59:21.560
John Compton: location survey.

933
01:59:21.590 --> 01:59:26.739
John Compton: So, I'm asking for up to $2,000. I have no idea how much it'll be.

934
01:59:26.890 --> 01:59:28.160
John Compton: I think it'll be…

935
01:59:28.480 --> 01:59:36.389
John Compton: $1,000, but I can't… Really? I don't know that for sure. Because we have all the boundary blockers, but that… you still need to have… Well, somebody has to go out and measure where the driveway is.

936
01:59:37.860 --> 01:59:47.890
John Compton: It's the easement we need to describe. Yeah, if you have the boundary, good, that should make it easy, but… Yeah, we have all the boundary markers there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you still have to survey where everything is.

937
01:59:48.330 --> 02:00:02.969
John Compton: In other words, the easement is here. Right. That has to be described. So, before you can do that, you have to know where the driver will be located. That's why I'm… the intention is to install the driveway and then describe where it is.

938
02:00:05.990 --> 02:00:11.180
John Compton: Is this premature to be doing this? That? Because you have to first have an agreement

939
02:00:11.420 --> 02:00:24.950
John Compton: that they have to… Not gonna do it until we have an agreement. So we can just… it'll be ready to go. Yes. He's just good… he's just setting up funds for… Yes. Okay, good. Yeah, exactly. It's not actually going to go ahead and do it.

940
02:00:26.060 --> 02:00:33.300
John Compton: All right, I think that covers it, and I appreciate the motion for the, the, the funds for the roads.

941
02:00:33.450 --> 02:00:37.950
John Compton: Any other comments on that? Let me get this out of here.

942
02:00:40.400 --> 02:00:42.689
John Compton: All right, all in favor?

943
02:00:43.330 --> 02:00:45.749
John Compton: 4 here. Mary? Gone?

944
02:00:45.750 --> 02:00:46.810
John Porter: John and I.

945
02:00:47.200 --> 02:01:06.289
John Compton: Okay, and can I have a motion for the survey expenses? I'll make that motion. Okay, it's up to $2,000 to survey the location of the driveway easement. Second, Barbara? All right, Barbara seconded. Any discussion?

946
02:01:06.630 --> 02:01:07.909
John Compton: All in favor?

947
02:01:08.970 --> 02:01:10.400
John Porter: This is John I.

948
02:01:10.840 --> 02:01:12.959
John Compton: Alright, that's a unanimous.

949
02:01:13.190 --> 02:01:14.130
John Compton: Thank you.

950
02:01:14.490 --> 02:01:23.090
John Compton: Alright, now we're on to, believe it or not, near the end, to the council reports.

951
02:01:23.720 --> 02:01:29.479
John Compton: So, I extracted a few interesting things I thought might be worth mentioning.

952
02:01:29.800 --> 02:01:36.059
John Compton: here. One is from John Porter, with… about the lighting committee.

953
02:01:36.350 --> 02:01:49.499
John Compton: They are, are moving toward, suggesting replacement of the high-pressure sodium bulb fixtures that are on Ridge Road and…

954
02:01:50.110 --> 02:01:53.559
John Compton: we believe may also be on Brown Street.

955
02:01:54.440 --> 02:02:13.380
John Compton: with new fixtures that would accommodate LEDs, likely Cobra head fixtures. But the committee is going to look at that, at replacing those fixtures. Now that we have some sort of idea of how to deal with PEPCO,

956
02:02:13.700 --> 02:02:15.110
John Compton: for this process.

957
02:02:15.440 --> 02:02:17.880
John Compton: It's just information.

958
02:02:18.180 --> 02:02:30.209
John Compton: Chris reported in McCathran… his McCathran Hall report, that a new electric water heater was installed to replace the gas water heater, which… for which

959
02:02:30.520 --> 02:02:32.910
John Compton: I won't… I'm gonna make this very brief.

960
02:02:33.030 --> 02:02:35.559
John Compton: The temperature regulator failed.

961
02:02:35.680 --> 02:02:43.020
John Compton: And replacing the temperature regulator on the gas water heater was the better part of a new water heater.

962
02:02:43.550 --> 02:02:45.160
John Compton: And,

963
02:02:45.210 --> 02:03:02.649
John Compton: It was felt that the water… the gas water heater was overkill in its size, and was not using renewable energy, so going with a smaller electric water heater does use an electric energy would be…

964
02:03:02.680 --> 02:03:13.749
John Compton: would be a reasonable place to… to do… go, and so that, work, that replacement has been done. I have a new, smaller electric water heater.

965
02:03:14.210 --> 02:03:19.850
John Compton: Here in the hall. As well, new cipher locks are being installed.

966
02:03:21.220 --> 02:03:26.300
John Compton: I'm sure everybody knows what a cipher lock is, and just in case

967
02:03:26.300 --> 02:03:42.910
John Compton: you're like me, and didn't actually understand that. It's a keypad lock, which we can, change combinations, issue one-time use combinations, or… and… and withdraw use, and… and… and…

968
02:03:42.970 --> 02:03:51.680
John Compton: Better control access, who has access to the outside of the hall, the main hall, council room.

969
02:03:52.100 --> 02:03:53.170
John Compton: the office.

970
02:03:53.430 --> 02:03:57.790
John Compton: So, they… those have been… a bunch of those have been…

971
02:03:57.910 --> 02:04:01.320
John Compton: Been purchased and will be installed, if they haven't already.

972
02:04:03.260 --> 02:04:12.350
John Compton: Also from CRUS, in the Emergency Preparedness and Safety area, which is a committee of one, him,

973
02:04:12.540 --> 02:04:16.730
John Compton: Is, and this is the suggestion from,

974
02:04:16.880 --> 02:04:22.200
John Compton: Donna Schreiner that a new stop sign, be installed.

975
02:04:22.410 --> 02:04:33.469
John Compton: At Brun and Chestnut, I didn't know she was going to make an appearance, but I think we'll see a proposal to do that. I think the Council needs to

976
02:04:34.170 --> 02:04:38.530
John Compton: consider and approve that. Stop signs are…

977
02:04:40.430 --> 02:04:53.449
John Compton: Can we use the… use the, the spreadsheet for beta test? Absolutely. We're already using it for other things. Yeah, yeah, a few… but yes, everything should… I meant to… I meant to make a plea.

978
02:04:53.760 --> 02:05:02.410
John Compton: whenever you get a request to do anything, anybody, any of you, Peter's probably getting his millions, just, you know, notify

979
02:05:02.990 --> 02:05:07.529
John Compton: And, at this point, Please put it into the request tracking system.

980
02:05:08.270 --> 02:05:12.159
John Compton: You know, and, so she can follow up.

981
02:05:12.730 --> 02:05:20.740
John Compton: You know, and… So there's not an actual thing, like, where people can type in what the request is, and just immediately go there? Somebody has to… Not yet.

982
02:05:20.770 --> 02:05:39.340
John Compton: No, but that's the plan. They can't actually type in, but they do a request form, which then puts it in there. Sounds like it's one of those, when you go to a website, it says under construction. It's still being developed, you know, so that's why I say… Well, yeah, we have…

983
02:05:39.610 --> 02:05:45.659
John Compton: Alright, and, from the Planning Commission,

984
02:05:46.630 --> 02:05:53.460
John Compton: I just wanted to report that they have, are discussing the idea of requiring a permit

985
02:05:53.640 --> 02:05:59.610
John Compton: To allow resident planting on town land adjacent to private property.

986
02:06:00.200 --> 02:06:15.289
John Compton: We are not discussing it. We voted unanimous… unanimously not to do that. And so, if you want to… I'll be appearing in front of the Planning Commission to make a… hopefully more…

987
02:06:15.360 --> 02:06:22.700
John Compton: persuasive argument that, this is something that is appropriate, because I didn't hear a word as to why

988
02:06:23.050 --> 02:06:24.530
John Compton: You were against that.

989
02:06:25.370 --> 02:06:31.400
John Compton: Okay. I can spend 20 minutes right now telling you, but… Right. NOT do that.

990
02:06:31.480 --> 02:06:41.889
John Compton: Yeah, but why don't we just put it on the agenda for the next council meeting? No, let's put it on the plan… Well, it's gonna… it's gonna come down to the Council anyway, so why don't we just do it?

991
02:06:41.890 --> 02:06:51.860
John Compton: you can, you know, you're not gonna persuade, like, the planning… Because the Planning Commission has to execute this, and so if you're not willing to, if you don't…

992
02:06:51.860 --> 02:06:56.130
John Compton: agree that there's value to it, then why don't the council try and…

993
02:06:56.400 --> 02:06:58.879
John Compton: I mean, yes, we can impose it on you, but…

994
02:06:59.320 --> 02:07:04.499
John Compton: You… the council, that's what I'm saying. The council. Right, so the Planning Commission doesn't think

995
02:07:04.620 --> 02:07:09.219
John Compton: It's a, you know, it's been thoroughly discussed.

996
02:07:09.720 --> 02:07:21.430
John Compton: So, I mean, you can't… of course you can come to the next meeting. I'm just reporting on the down… on the council report. Yeah. I don't mean to argue the… Well, you could just leave with Georgette and myself and say just, you know, we did… I could.

997
02:07:21.660 --> 02:07:25.140
John Compton: Yeah. Lastly, from Mary about the lake.

998
02:07:25.370 --> 02:07:36.000
John Compton: Just so everybody who hasn't been to the lake knows that a sign-in at the lifeguard stand was initiated. It was on a trial basis.

999
02:07:36.450 --> 02:07:40.989
John Compton: To facilitate monitoring who and how many people were coming to the lake.

1000
02:07:41.930 --> 02:07:44.730
John Compton: And that's been in effect for a month.

1001
02:07:45.160 --> 02:07:54.649
John Compton: And, I'm sure the late committee will be assessing as to how useful that was, because, of course, you take some effort to do this, another requirement.

1002
02:07:54.810 --> 02:08:00.360
John Compton: Secondly, remember we, we, put funds in for a porta potty?

1003
02:08:00.580 --> 02:08:04.479
John Compton: And apparently the feedback for the porta potty has been very positive.

1004
02:08:05.480 --> 02:08:07.219
John Compton: That'd be good. Good news.

1005
02:08:07.740 --> 02:08:10.629
John Compton: And, just like… just like for the…

1006
02:08:10.660 --> 02:08:31.010
John Compton: the… the duty calls station, the feedback from the dogs. Very positive. Did you announce that there's a new station coming? Yes, and there's one more station. One more station coming. All right, that's it. Anybody else have anything to say about the council reports they'd like to…

1007
02:08:31.010 --> 02:08:36.969
John Compton: No, I just want to point out that the next meeting is not actually Monday, October 12th, it's September…

1008
02:08:36.970 --> 02:08:41.660
John Compton: something. Oh, 14th or something? Why did I put up… No, it's 14th.

1009
02:08:42.640 --> 02:08:57.279
John Compton: I think that I just meant to be another, okay. This is the only time I was gonna… Yeah, yeah, definitely the 14th. Really? Yeah. Yes, the next one will be September 14th.

1010
02:08:57.560 --> 02:09:02.700
John Compton: I'm sorry, the next regular meeting will be on Monday at 7.30,

1011
02:09:02.970 --> 02:09:11.920
John Compton: September 14th, pre… which will include the public hearing on the, ordinance,

1012
02:09:12.210 --> 02:09:15.029
John Compton: Opposition number 2026-12.

1013
02:09:15.390 --> 02:09:21.460
John Compton: And on the 27th of August, at 7.30, that's a Thursday.

1014
02:09:21.690 --> 02:09:29.160
John Compton: There will be a special town council meeting to, address the, proposed easement.

1015
02:09:29.530 --> 02:09:30.200
John Compton: Bye.

1016
02:09:31.360 --> 02:09:32.210
John Compton: Alright?

1017
02:09:32.310 --> 02:09:35.009
John Compton: All right. Good meeting. I'll be gone.

1018
02:09:35.010 --> 02:09:35.330
John Porter: Alright.

1019
02:09:35.330 --> 02:09:36.076
John Compton: lose it.

1020
02:09:36.640 --> 02:09:37.930
John Porter: Good night, everybody.

1021
02:09:38.250 --> 02:09:44.390
John Compton: In ain't… What time is the special time? 7.30.

1022
02:09:47.730 --> 02:09:49.500
John Compton: Do we want to stop the recording?

1023
02:09:50.100 --> 02:09:52.890
John Compton: I just did. Oh, did you? I have to do it always.

1024
02:09:54.030 --> 02:09:55.110
John Compton: It's tough.

1025
02:10:05.190 --> 02:10:08.310
John Compton: Gave him back right away, or are you gonna stay in chat?