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John Compton: UFO.

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John Compton: Close encounters.

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John Compton: That was great.

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John Compton: You know, isn't.

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John Compton: These are these are these are the new don't have an actual agenda.

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John Compton: There's some over there, I think. Yeah, that's it.

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John Compton: Yep, you can settle up.

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John Compton: as well as needed. I only printed 3. Okay, I'll sit down here at the moment. It looks like it's me. Did you get something new? Help yourself. So before John needs them all.

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John Compton: I'm finished.

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John Compton: You're intoxicated now.

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John Compton: That's so funny. She actually cracked the smile. I'm afraid of cyclists for radio.

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John Compton: Oh. But those.

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John Compton: But then they washed. I roast them all. They're from Whole Foods. Oh.

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John Compton: in the grocery store. They said, what can I buy for the new outbreak? Thank you, Kay.

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John Compton: for all his surveillance of the oh, what's the outbreak of the cyclist?

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John Compton: which we haven't had in how many years? Because they used to survey for it. And now they don't. So what kind of food do you find that in vegetables?

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John Compton: No, Nick said, hairy, hairy fruit. Yeah, raspberries. I noticed they the price of raspberries was they were discounted. Somebody gave me. What about strawberries? Somebody gave me a tin of strawberries, my extra neighbor.

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John Compton: Which I don't want.

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John Compton: You can listen. You can't scrub them like you can scrub other things. Yeah.

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John Compton: I got a watermelon. I figured that would be safe Yeah, that's right.

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John Compton: My sister, my sister showed me. Go take watermelon and you know, as soon as I get it, cut it up, and

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John Compton: Those are really nice. How am I gonna do with all the nuts? A scooper? You know what? It's easier than cutting it. I go slice it in half and slice it that way, and I take my nut and I go .

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John Compton: like 5 min, and then I and I immediately go and come up with exactly come up with seedless. Those would fly off the shelves. The watermelon doesn't seem to be as sweet as I keep mine in the refrigerator like they're really cold.

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John Compton: I freeze it sometimes. It's a great snack. I just came up with that. I pop out and just…

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John Compton: and hydrate yourself. Yeah, let's let me see if that's true.

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John Compton: You can let everybody in now. Yeah.

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John Compton: This bag of cherries is weakening for us.

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John Compton: Did you see that Charlie got on? It's about to get on the meeting.

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John Compton: Yeah, what's your language, Meredith? Poor, heavily fixed

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John Compton: What do you think of that? I think both of us. John, you've been so quiet.

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John Compton: Sorry. It's so quiet. Yeah. I like the way John can look at us and know that there's consensus without anybody taking it back. I'm so impressed with…

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John Compton: His ability to know us that well.

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John Compton: We go to the boat, we go to the boat, and everybody's everybody's choosing sounds.

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John Compton: Okay.

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John Compton: Thanks.

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John Compton: like that day we had. We were talking about something.

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John Compton: and it was like 50 people on the call. And we we said we're not going to talk about it. Everybody says, starts dropping down. Well, I can't remember what the topic was. I can't remember. It was either. It was the East. Oh, yeah.

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John Compton: The troops. The troops had been rallied. Oh, that yeah, that's right. It was the Charlton pros. Yeah, yeah.

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John Compton: Was that it? It's always something.

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John Compton: Okay.

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John Compton: I don't think there's anything tonight.

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John Compton: How many people are on it? I'm just wondering.

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John Compton: Any questions.

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John Compton: Alright, what's the name of the stadium? I can't read Everybody's here. All right.

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John Compton: 1st thought in the business is, can you guys hear? Okay, on online.

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John Compton: thumbs up some thumbs up if it's a lot of

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John Compton: You can always make it louder on your device, but hopefully we're good.

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John Compton: Paul has sent one fine. Okay.

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John Compton: Good. Alright, so we will, resume the open session of the council meeting.

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John Compton: Now, the The agenda, which, and.

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John Compton: Rory Bilocerkowycz, was approved at the outset at 6 o'clock.

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John Compton: And the next item on our agenda is a public hearing.

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John Compton: Ordinance 2026, dash 0 6, authorizing the sale of land occupied by a porch at 2203 Second Avenue, constructed in part on land owned by the town of Washington Grove.

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John Compton: So this is an ordinance to sell land under the porch.

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John Compton: at 2 0 3 Second Avenue. It is one of the properties for which article 17 of our code of ordinances applies, which prescribes a process.

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John Compton: For the owner of the property to purchase the land.

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John Compton: under a portion of the main, the main building that encroaches on on town property.

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John Compton: So the owners has requested that the town sell her the land.

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John Compton: And as a result, we've put together the

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John Compton: the ordinance which is in the meeting meeting materials.

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John Compton: The ordinance consists of

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John Compton: the usual warehouses, and and what fors, with a few exhibits that include a a survey.

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John Compton: Of the property, it includes…

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John Compton: something else I'm forgetting, but mainly it includes a some

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John Compton: some requirements on the use of the land related to its historic character of the property.

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John Compton: So all of that is there. And this is the public hearing on this ordinance.

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John Compton: So public hearings open. Anyone here wish to speak to this ordinance.

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John Compton: All right, not seeing anyone.

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John Compton: Then,

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John Compton: We'll open and close the ordinance, the public hearing, and we can move on to the regular business of the Town Council.

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John Compton: first item on that is approval of minutes.

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John Compton: The Council received actually, in reasonable time, almost the minutes to 3 meetings that remained unapproved.

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John Compton: the March 23rd meeting which got overlooked. It was the Council meeting and work budget work session.

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John Compton: in March, the May 18th meeting that followed the

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John Compton: the annual town meeting to organize the Town Council, but also to conduct business, and last month's meeting June 8.th

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John Compton: So I'd like a motion to approve the minutes. Oh, this is Mary. I'll move to approve the minutes. Thank you.

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John Compton: It's Chris. I second.

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John Compton: Thank you, Chris.

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John Compton: Does anyone have any comments or directions to those?

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John Compton: Nope. Hearing none. All in favor. Approval of those 3 min. I see 6. It's unanimous approval. Thank you.

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John Compton: Alright. This brings us now to public appearance. Which the public is offered 3 min to address any subject they care to address. and I am seeing Paula with 5 fingers waving at us.

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John Compton: So Paula would like. Thank you.

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Paula Puglisi: Thank you. I'm here just to ask a couple of questions about the herbicide application on Grove Avenue near Macaulay, which is in front of my house and a couple of others.

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Paula Puglisi: I'll just say at the outset, forgive me if I missed something. I may have just missed something. And I know the town is usually really good about.

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Paula Puglisi: notifying people and asking for public input, but I didn't see anything until I saw, just this little sign on the path

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Paula Puglisi: This morning, I mean, it couldn't have been there

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Paula Puglisi: More than a couple days because I was out there,

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Paula Puglisi: and it said that it would be applied July 13th, which was today, and I saw the dye, which meant that it had already been applied. So, I have some concerns. I know this is… this has been done by these same people in other areas in town.

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Paula Puglisi: But this is a new… this is close to houses and yards and gardens. There's the new, as far as I know.

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Paula Puglisi: a new, application, new area. So, I'm.

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Paula Puglisi: Curious as to why there wasn't public input or the neighbors who were most affected weren't asked.

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Paula Puglisi: I'm also really worried because I have big pots.

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Paula Puglisi: that of tomatoes and eggplant in my garden that's just a few feet from there. It's not far.

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Paula Puglisi: And so I know that when the people apply it, that they have all the protective equipment on and I don't know exactly what the herbicide is.

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Paula Puglisi: But I worry about particulate matter being airborne and getting on my vegetables. So I'm actually, I'm really worried about.

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Paula Puglisi: Eating them now. So.

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Paula Puglisi: I would. And so I'm I know that in an effort to take care of invasive species, that the town's very concerned, and I do see that sometimes

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Paula Puglisi: Herbicides might be the best method, so I'm not like total anti. However, I really worry about being a little too cavalier.

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Paula Puglisi: And making sure that it's really the last resort. I have bamboo in my yard.

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Paula Puglisi: I don't use herbicides. I keep it controlled. So I'm just worried about those kinds of things. I need to know.

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Paula Puglisi: The name of the herbicide that is used because I want to go to some people who really know that stuff, not me.

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Paula Puglisi: To some people who really know it so that they could get information not from the manufacturer, unbiased scientific information about it, because I want to be sure.

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Paula Puglisi: that since it's close to my house, that it's not gonna affect my… the food that I eat, the yard that my dog plays in. So… and like I say, the town, I feel, is usually really good about that stuff, so I don't… I don't really understand what happened.

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Paula Puglisi: So I know you don't have to respond to me right now, but I really, really hope that someone responds to my concerns and gives me the name of the herbicide.

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Paula Puglisi: Okay.

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John Compton: But you know Georgette is, Georgette, she's on the call right now, but just call Georgette and she can give you all the information that you need. And you understand that it was a huge expense and it took like 10 years or 20 years to finally get all that bamboo removed.

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Paula Puglisi: Oh, I'm happy. I'm happy.

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John Compton: I know, so, alright, so anyway, just call Joe Jeff, though.

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Paula Puglisi: Well, but that's not my only concern. I just want you to register all of my concerns with this, please.

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John Compton: Okay.

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Paula Puglisi: Mmhm.

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John Compton: I would say more, but John will yell at me, so I'm gonna be quiet. I appreciate your your comments, Paula. If

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John Compton: if if we overlooked a an alert that this was gonna happen.

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John Compton: I'll… I'm not aware that we did, and I'm…

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John Compton: We need to find out why it was applied without a warning.

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John Compton: I think this is the 1st Report of this,

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John Compton: I've heard since we started the policy of advance, advance information on treatment. So I agree with Peter. Talk with Georgette.

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John Compton: Because, that's, the…

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John Compton: the area for forestry and beautifications. There was an alert today concerning.

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Paula Puglisi: The woods.

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John Compton: The woods correct, which was absolutely not grove avenue. So.

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Paula Puglisi: I would have covered my plants.

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John Compton: Yeah, no, no, that's Okay. Thank you.

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Paula Puglisi: Thank you.

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John Compton: Alright, Paul, you're next.

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Paul P: Okay, great. Can y'all hear me okay?

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John Compton: Yep.

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Paul P: Okay, perfect. Yeah, I just wanted to say a few words. I saw that communication was on the agenda, and I wanted to give a little bit of context.

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Paul P: I also submitted a written statement, which I hope will be included within minutes, but, the short of it is, the Sustainability Committee, received an application

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Paul P: for an incentive rebate a month or two ago.

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Paul P: This application was filed more than a year after the vehicle was purchased, and so consistent with the resolution and effect at the time.

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Paul P: The committee decided to

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Paul P: recommend rejecting this application. And then Liz Galanders, to her credit, discovered that the town website actually does not have either

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Paul P: the most recent or the the version of the resolution. Even before that there have been 2 updates to the program, and, in fact, nowhere on the the incentive.

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Paul P: program website doesn't even say that there's a time limit, as far as we can tell. So, she actually reversed our decision, which, in retrospect, I think we on the committee probably agree with. The main reason I wanted to bring this, to the Council's attention was, in large part because

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Paul P: I think this… this illustrates some of the communication issues we've been having in town. I realize this is an ongoing discussion, and there's things probably in the works to fix this, but just want to highlight that,

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Paul P: the sort of lack of updating the webpage and some of these broader communication issues are having impacts on our ability as committee members to do our work effectively. And the only other thing I want to say is, I personally am of the opinion that

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Paul P: It would be really helpful if we got to have a more proactive approach to.

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Paul P: addressing communication issues in town. I think, you know, Christine did a really wonderful job, but a lot of the response has been very reactive, responding to, you know, committee members and residents when things come up, but I think it would be really helpful to,

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Paul P: You know, have someone who's engaged in understanding what communication issues need to be addressed, and reaching out to committees and residents to help deal with those proactively.

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Paul P: That's all I had to say. Thanks.

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John Compton: Okay, Paul, thank you.

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John Compton: Do we have anybody else?

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John Compton: tonight.

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John Compton: And of course Paul will be listening to the Discussion of, coming up on communication.

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John Compton: No one else?

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John Compton: that case we will call an end to the public appearances and move on to the treasurer's report from Jane Moyer. So, Jane.

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Jean Moyer: Yep. Are you putting it up, John?

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John Compton: I am.

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Jean Moyer: Aha.

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Jean Moyer: So this is the year end. However, these numbers are really draft form.

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Jean Moyer: I'm still waiting on some both income and expense items.

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Jean Moyer: Some of the income can actually is a a month, sometimes 2 month lag.

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Jean Moyer: And gets updated sometimes during the audit. But this is the best width we have right now. I wanted to point out that hopefully nobody panics. If you look at our income being at 58%, that is really just math.

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Jean Moyer: because the budget included spending the full arpa money as well as tapping into the State.

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Jean Moyer: grant money for the stormwater purposes.

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Jean Moyer: And we now, really,

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Jean Moyer: haven't tapped into the State stormwater money. The 5,500 that you see there's actual that's from the meadow state money that we have 2.

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Jean Moyer: Now 3.

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Jean Moyer: state grants, and so we did not tap into the Maryland State Stormwater Grant, and really spent very little that we thought we would spend from the ARPA money. So that really just sort of

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Jean Moyer: distorts that percentage, and I didn't want anyone to panic over that the expenses. There is nothing in the expenses that alarms me.

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Jean Moyer: I put notes in there for items that might perk somebody's interest and happy to answer any questions on expenses.

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Jean Moyer: I I'm still open to receiving expenses related to Fy.

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Jean Moyer: 26. And if folks council folks, if you can remind any committees under your purview.

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Jean Moyer: That I really need to get those. We have a new procedure that was presented to the Council a month, maybe 2 months ago. Trying to hurry up people to at year end to get year end expenses in.

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Jean Moyer: And I'm open to any questions.

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John Compton: This is Barbara. I don't see any payment to the new town administrator on here. Is it categorized differently?

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Jean Moyer: But we don't. I didn't create a separate line for administrator. You'll see that in Fy 27. The money for the one month was added into the town clerk.

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Jean Moyer: And yeah.

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Jean Moyer: For just the one month.

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John Compton: Okay.

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Jean Moyer: Because we didn't have a budget item for account administrator.

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John Compton: Okay.

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Jean Moyer: She was.

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John Compton: Yes, Chris.

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John Compton: I'm sorry.

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Jean Moyer: Yeah.

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John Compton: Right. So this, Chris, I have a question. Same old, same old. But have you heard from Chesapeake fire?

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John Compton: Trying to close out their.

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Jean Moyer: My understanding was we mailed them the last check.

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John Compton: Okay.

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John Compton: Yeah, I'll reach out to them.

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Jean Moyer: I don't know if you're expecting some sort of formal document that says closed, okay.

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John Compton: Well, no, as long as as long as you know, I think the invoice and bills are paid. I think they'll be happy, and

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John Compton: And I just want to make sure that, you know, a few months down the road, I'm not going to get an email asking me what's going on, so… Right. I'll make sure that…

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Jean Moyer: Yeah, and I…

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John Compton: Thank you.

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Jean Moyer: I can start.

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John Compton: Okay, we got it.

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Jean Moyer: Thank you on checking in with them to make sure they're Everything's… Fine.

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John Compton: Yeah, I'll make sure they're happy. It takes a while for them to figure out who's who.

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Jean Moyer: It does seem that way.

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John Compton: Thank you.

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John Compton: Okay, need a motion to accept the treasurer's report. June.

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John Compton: Barbara moved. Barbara moved, and. Peter will second. Peter a second, all in favor, accepting Jean's treasure support. That's a unanimous vote.

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John Compton: Thank you, James.

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John Compton: Alright, brings us to my report.

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John Compton: And as always, I start out with kudos.

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John Compton: Well, the Recreation Committee was very active this last month, and the first kudos goes to the committee for organizing the entertaining music weekend events.

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John Compton: that many residents enjoyed, including the magic art bus, which

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John Compton: was to have been with Circle Fest, but was transferred to Music Weekend on the morning of Jazz Brunch Sunday. So everybody

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John Compton: Enjoyed that, and the Recreation Committee pulled off an excellent weekend.

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John Compton: Then, of course, the Recreation Committee, with even more volunteer help.

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John Compton: you know, accomplished a well-orchestrated July 4th celebration in the 90-degree heat.

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John Compton: A large crowd attended, all events. And yes, I actually managed to go up on the tractor.

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John Compton: And there were tents to shade everyone in front of McCatherine Hall, which was much appreciated and greatly improved everybody's enjoyment of the of the afternoon, as well as, of course, the hot dogs and

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John Compton: and and lemonade and other drinks that were provided so really a terrific July 4, th and the kudos go to the Recreation Committee and all of the volunteers.

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John Compton: And then, of course, anybody's been been awake at the listserv. A shout out has to go to Eva Patron, the summer in the parks program director and Laurel Goldberg, who

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John Compton: accomplished a massive organizational and paperwork effort to get satp its 1st ever that we are aware of permit.

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John Compton: meet the requirements for this year, but they set a standard. And also, you know, much of the paperwork is ready for the next next year and the years after. So fantastic job, Eva and Laurel, for undertaking such a

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John Compton: Alright. Next item is on safety and vandalism. Of course there was another spate of a vehicle. Vandalism and break-ins, and a few suggestions were offered.

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John Compton: And Chris and I are going to arrange to speak with Officer Melanie Romano, the community services rep. About several of those suggestions and see whether any of them may be advantageous.

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John Compton: Alright, the Wssc. Sewer Replacement Center Street. The

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John Compton: WSSC contacted us probably 2 or 3 months ago.

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John Compton: permission for the permit that they must get to work on town property with their latest replacement project for an old old sewer lines.

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John Compton: and a variety of laterals from those lines to the residences. The

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John Compton: Major work is going on on center between Ridge and Maple Avenue, and as well as some work on Brown.

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John Compton: and on the sort of the far end of Ridge Road.

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John Compton: WSCC jumped the gun mightily by notifying residents. One of our council members was particularly shocked. As well, he…

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John Compton: would be when they notified him about the work that were going on in front of his house, and some impacts on trees. That's 1 of the main things we

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John Compton: And those discussions are ongoing. They don't have their permit. We only received the

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John Compton: I'd say 3 weeks ago or so, and they alarmed us since it differed from our 1st our 1st site visit, and we will be meeting with them this week to review and and see

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John Compton: you know what sort of alternatives there may be to the proposed removal of some rather large trees, among other things.

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John Compton: Okay, I I wanted to just mention to everyone that some circumstances that occur

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John Compton: routine around town. But in this case occurred on Grove Avenue, where in the vicinity of where the bamboo and was removed, and Paula addressed the the

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John Compton: As most of you know, or may or… well, you may or may not know.

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John Compton: 20 years ago, it was the policy in the town to encourage residents to beautify town walkways.

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John Compton: and in in ways that didn't, and didn't impinge on the function of the walkway, and many, many walkways. We have 50 feet of right of way, and you know the the immediate tenor

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John Compton: feet from the properties on both sides have been in some in in many areas beautified by residents. Grove Avenue is a perfect example, the oldest part of part of Grove Avenue.

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John Compton: The, the fact is, however, that those… efforts to beautify have consequences.

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John Compton: They have consequences for landscaping. Steve had to deal with

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John Compton: some difficult areas where things have been planted that just simply made it difficult to mow and and take care of things, and in some cases residents have put things that weren't just plants.

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John Compton: such as stone, borders and other features.

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John Compton: I have suggested to the Planning Commission that it would. It may be in the town's interest, both the residents for sure, and the town.

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John Compton: for to to institute a a way of having some oversight.

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John Compton: getting the benefits of these beautification projects that residents are willing to

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John Compton: these projects, and my suggestion is that the we do a walkway or town land beautification permit where anyone wishing to do do this sort of thing. Mostly it would apply to the walkways.

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John Compton: that they would simply propose what they were going to do to the Planning Commission. The Planning Commission would establish some guidelines as to what is acceptable

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John Compton: And what isn't, and why.

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John Compton: these beautification projects. We'll see what comes of that. If if this be entertained and make it make a recommendation or not to the Council.

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John Compton: The stormwater infrastructure project. As everyone knows, it's kind of got bogged down, and after a a quick start.

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John Compton: The work was suspended pretty much due to the lack of staking out the area that would be worked on by the engineer.

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John Compton: who designed, who worked with us to do the design for the work. So things were held up, work has been going on, for anyone who's walked down there on Hutch's Way and the asphalt.

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John Compton: Swale has been removed, and and that work is continuing. But the work on the rest was suspended. It's about to restart.

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John Compton: I believe Steve tells me Steve's our onsite coordinator for the project. That it will restart in areas starting this week to work on likely areas are are Oak Oak Street.

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John Compton: and I don't know what order, or whether how or whether they'll work on simultaneously, but center and oak.

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John Compton: And of course, at some point acorn the intersection with all those areas. So that's the status. I think we'll see a lot of activity this month.

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John Compton: all right on vacant properties. Registry.

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John Compton: You will recall that the Council instituted a vacant properties registry last. Sorry.

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John Compton: in fiscal 24. Sorry fiscal 25.

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John Compton: and last year was the 1st year of the registry. We had 3 properties that were registered

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John Compton: not completely satisfactorily, but to a significant extent. One was complete. 2 were

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John Compton: deficient in a few areas. Those properties have been notified that their renewal is is is due for the coming year.

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John Compton: The owners have indicated they plan to sell

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John Compton: We will believe it when we see it.

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John Compton: Right? September.

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John Compton: Some of you probably noticed the Grove Alert about custodial services at McCathern Hall. We, with summer in the parks and, you know, some upkeep It's rather critical to do our regular

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John Compton: custodial cleanup inside, as well as at the maintenance shed. Unfortunately, Greg

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John Compton: I'm forgetting his last name, I apologize. Knight. Greg Knight has, has, been unable to work due to a physical, issue. He may be coming back, mid, you know, this month, hopefully. Meanwhile, we needed someone to fill in.

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John Compton: And lo and behold, Kathy Lehman, who now has

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John Compton: virtually nothing to do, has offered to fill in. So, Kathy is no doubt proving that if you want it done right, you do it yourself. So, we're going to take advantage of Kathy to

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John Compton: Finally, the shared use pathway report. The liaison group and myself and our town attorney had a meeting with the with the county dot people executing the project to discuss

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John Compton: the easement that the town, needs to provide to the county for them to, do the pathway, the bit of pathway that is on town property at the end of Brown Street. That meeting,

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John Compton: had some discussion of some terms that were missing from the county draft easement, and we have are now

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John Compton: I'm going to negotiate whether or not we can add some few terms to that easement. It's on the agenda further on, so I won't say anything more about that, but the intention with the introduction of the ordinance to

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John Compton: which hopefully will be well, which will happen tonight. The town would be on track to execute an easement in just about 2 months.

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John Compton: You'll hear more about the process when we get to that.

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John Compton: And that's the end of my report.

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John Compton: If there are any questions, I'll answer them.

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John Compton: Right, so we'll move to the administrative matters, which is rather lengthy, as you,

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John Compton: may have seen. I will start with Chris Gresham on on crimes and suspicious activities.

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John Compton: Thank you. Thank you. Hopefully, I'll make this quick. So 1st of all, I something that just recently happened. I think this like Friday. Where we have a town resident who closes the apart gate.

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John Compton: at Dubs and opens, and then somebody opens it up in the morning. But when she was trying to close the gate, apparently there was already a car in the park. She

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John Compton: With headlights on. And she tried. She approached the car and told them that, you know, the park was closed and. And asked them to leave. And while she was talking to them.

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John Compton: tinted glass windows. She was kind of my understanding is wedged between the 2 cars, both cars.

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John Compton: one the the car that was already in the park already. One of the individuals got out and got into the the the car with the tinted glass windows, and then

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John Compton: they all went back into their original cars, and they left. So what I'm trying to say is is there are things going on in this park.

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John Compton: possibly nefarious activities going on. So we need to be very careful. So with that, it kind of was a segue to all residents should report any suspicious activity to the Montgomery County police non-emergency numbers. And it's the non-emergency. Well, these numbers are also in the phone book.

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John Compton: Our directory, but, you know, it's 301-279-8000.

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John Compton: or the tip line is 2, 4, 0, 7, 7, 3 tips.

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John Compton: or you could even text to crimes.

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John Compton: And the bottom line is, if you see something, say something, and I really appreciate the town residents who are reporting these issues to me. And, as John mentioned earlier, it would be all that much more information that we could provide to our Montgomery County police.

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John Compton: To help us.

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John Compton: Thank you. So so a rebuttal. It's not a rebuttal. So so it's it's we are.

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John Compton: totally reactive. And yeah, I've lived here 40 years, and especially in the summertime, not just at the park, but at the gazebo by the maintenance shed.

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John Compton: there's always suspicious car. They park along, you know, and everybody knows some some kids told me that Washington Road was a big joke as far as drug dealing the kids from the high school. This is just considered a safe zone for doing things. You know I am totally, you know. I had my car ransacked, but you know they didn't take anything.

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John Compton: And so and that's ha! But I mean considering the number of cars that that you know we are victims. We're being victimized. We we're being totally reactive. My understanding

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John Compton: was that the police basically said they're not going to do anything. That's kind of my understanding of what I heard, and they don't have the manpower or the manpower.

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John Compton: And they have a priority of, you know, there's a lot, just in a few neighborhoods around us, there's a lot going on, which is a lot more serious than somebody stealing quarters from cars and things like that. But, you know, cars have been stolen, there's things broken, and it seems like, just, you know, I've been hearing a lot of…

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John Compton: you know, rumblings from our citizens who feel that, you know, they are being victimized, and they expect riddle leaders, they expect us to do something. And I know you're working on it, and I know John's working on it, but I really think that we need to give this a little bit more priority as far as being proactive and how we can

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John Compton: you know, defend ourselves, because I really do feel, and I think we all feel, I don't know if it's happened to you.

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John Compton: But it's just a horrible feeling when you go out, and I don't even have a window broken. I didn't have my steering column broken. But when you see your glove compartment open and people going through your personal stuff, and to me this is like step one where they go. Oh, this is an easy place, and then maybe this is this could. It seems like it's escalating already, and I just think that we need to be a little bit more proactive.

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John Compton: I want to echo one thing about Peter, and then I have a question for the two of you.

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John Compton: I had a similar experience with a guy who was exposed himself, and I actually called the Gaithersburg number that you had, gave them the license plate number, description of the cars and everything, and they kind of, in no uncertain terms, told me they didn't have the staff, and they couldn't help.

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John Compton: And it kind of mirrors what he says about not enough staff. Question for the two of you is, what will you ask of this woman who is, quote, supposed to work with us, given the circumstances of repeated message, we don't have enough staff to deal with petty crime?

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John Compton: So if I may. So I don't know if you go ahead participated in in in the the June 25th you know, zoom conference with with our public in that public service.

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John Compton: Community community service officer, officer Romano and and so she did point out.

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John Compton: that we have had an escalation since from a year ago in in crimes. It's it's pretty. The grove or the grove, the grove in particular, you know. I don't know about Montgomery County in general, but

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John Compton: But, you know, we went from like almost 0 cars affected in 2025 to so far this year, I think she said 8.

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John Compton: this year, and the year's not even over yet. So there is an escalation, and they are well aware of this right? And and and so you know, the more we report.

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John Compton: the more we end up on their radar screens to get the assistance that we need. You know they're they're

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John Compton: very limited in resources. Absolutely find that in your apple music library you can ask me to play a radio station or ask for your music on a different app. I like that. We could do that. I'm not sure we're going to.

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John Compton: I have no idea. What computer that came from? I think we were just all getting too serious. Yeah, that's true. It must have been my computer, right? But anyway, so long story short is, is we are trying to figure… and that's exactly what the mayor also…

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John Compton: I've talked about. We're talking deterrence. But then, and also we're trying to figure out, what can we do? That was what the initial zoom meeting was all about to to bring it to

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John Compton: Montgomery County Police Department's attention that this town is being affected. So they did the research, they pulled the data, they presented what they had, and it was an opportunity for the town residents to speak up. Oddly enough, if you watch the video.

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John Compton: I think if we had maybe 2 people that asked some questions, there wasn't a lot. How many people are on the video? 25 or so. I never. I never got the like communication problems. Spam.

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John Compton: So, but that video is, is, is available, right? Yeah, it's on the website. And, and so, so what can we do? And we're gonna, it's on the website, you know, we're, we're, we're.

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John Compton: reaching out. That's what we're saying is, we're not the experts in this, and they know what's going on in the county.

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John Compton: in addition to what's going on here. So we're reaching out to them to see what can we do as a town. One of the things that was circulated was, and

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John Compton: A lot of people don't seem to like that because we'll be a surveillance town and putting up cameras. Over a year ago there was a group that came in for Kata and they did a presentation. They were going to give us a free demo for 60 days to 90 days and everybody shot that down.

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John Compton: of a big brother watching you. So, you know, we're kind of caught. If, if there's anybody watching or, or here in the council that has any ideas, please provide that, you know, we're, we're

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John Compton: struggling to try to move forward with initiatives. Because other towns, yeah, I mean, not to get the police, but other towns have, you know, are dealing with this, and there's, you know, instead of reinventing the wheel, there's probably… I started doing that, but then, you know, we move forward. It just seems like also, though, no matter what we do.

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John Compton: it's like it's it's it's kind of like an overwhelming problem, because, like people have videos of people. But there's a hoodie. It's dark. They're looking for cameras. And even if you found somebody just like with with this guy, you know the exposure, and all this information is given to the police, you know. Are they gonna are they gonna prosecute

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John Compton: A 15 year old who's, you know, breaking into cars.

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John Compton: It's kind of like, you know, it's it's well, apparently in Montgomery County, I think, or the laws in Maryland. I'm not sure, but it's like either. If you're 12 or younger, they could only arrest you and take you home, and then you're on the parent custody, you know.

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John Compton: Yeah. So so so you know, that's the kind of scenario that we, the town, are dealing with, and also the police.

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John Compton: Regarding the thing with the indecent exposure, Officer Romano brought that up also, and she's saying bottom line is she's been getting a lot of reports, but it's unfortunate, it's very unfortunate.

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John Compton: Whoever the eyewitnesses has to actually see.

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John Compton: They need an eyewitness.

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John Compton: see who can identify the individual, then they can prosecute. Well, it's not just the individual, but the action they need to see that particular action.

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John Compton: Whoever the, whoever the witness is, they, they need that eyewitness account is what she's saying for them to go after this individual. And it could be more than one. Yeah. Well, I assume that's the women who are in the cars.

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John Compton: You're asking the women in the cars to come forward. Well, it's not just the women. There's, you know, my wife was even approached by this guy, and she was walking down the pathway. Yeah, you know, this, this guy is, is, you know.

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John Compton: But, but she went the other way, you know, she just avoided this individual. But apparently there were some kids that were, that were unfortunately exposed to this individual. Now, whether they saw anything or not, I don't know.

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John Compton: But so I'm glad they're talking about it, because it's almost like it's all been swept under. And this discussion, what you and John are doing is great. I think it'll make people feel a little bit better.

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John Compton: For… discouraging, even… middle of the night.

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John Compton: Church.

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John Compton: And you know it's a it's in to a certain extent. It's a private property issue. Now, we're not gonna erect fences and go security gates or whatever. But there are things that you can do. I mean, people have have cameras.

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John Compton: And you know those those can catch people in in for identification.

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John Compton: I didn't understand why people who have this concern don't have motion active flood lines. I can't think of any faster way to discourage someone than to suddenly flood them with light. Somebody goes by at 4 in the morning, man. So you don't want to. When would they step onto your property? So you don't want to buy some bait cars about that? No.

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John Compton: Police cars, we should… Base cars.

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John Compton: We're we're we're going to install some decoy surveillance cameras.

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John Compton: Steve apparently discovered some outdated technology cameras that we have never installed, and and we could use them with signs.

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John Compton: to make people believe they're under surveillance. I mean, there's all that. There's a neighborhood watch. There are all the things that

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John Compton: because anybody who expects the police to nab these people is dreaming, I mean, unless unless you know, unless the town wants to get together and do a do do active

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John Compton: active prevention.

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John Compton: That guy going around in his car, man, if I haven't seen him yet. But you know, if I was a dog worker I I might carry a handful of tacks of nails.

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John Compton: I see that clown. I might just toss nails in front of his his car punctures a tire or 2. He won't be coming back too quickly.

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John Compton: I mean, I I'm just making stuff up. So if anybody in town gets it flat, you'll be the ones. I'll be the ones arrested. I doubt it. I just, you know. So so I guess the other thing, too, is it's in it. Look at the the

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John Compton: Grove alert that issued the bulletin. That's where it is. And there's a, you know, I put together a summary of what was in the presentation. And then there's links in there also. There's also page of the website. Yeah, okay. And then there's also links to a Montgomery County, to Montgomery County police services where they will help you buy security cameras.

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John Compton: Say, up to what, $200, $250, they will reimburse you.

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John Compton: and then there's another where you could sign up, and if you have, like a ring cam or a camera or something that's on the web, you could log in and and register your camera with the police, and at your permission, if something happens, they'll access your camera to get additional. They need evidence. They need evidence. So that's that's a that's

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John Compton: Yeah. Kind of where we're at.

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John Compton: Okay, good. Thank you. It took longer than fine. I'm sorry. That's okay. All your time from Mary, who is up next with a review of Mabel Lake rules actually going to share those. So

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John Compton: It kind of came up in the training and orientation of the new lifeguards that there's some confusion as to what

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John Compton: The Maple Lake rules are in particular.

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John Compton: non residents using using the coming into the lake number of people that can come in at one time, and also what the no dog rule is. Lifeguards were under the impression that dogs could come anytime as long as the people that were at the lake

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John Compton: You know, agree, which is not.

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John Compton: anyway. So it it made us think we need to go back and at least establish what the current rules are. The last regulations were from September 2,018, and in reading through them there are some things already in in those that we don't do anymore. It used to get permits

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John Compton: to be at the lake. You'd get it at the, I guess, the town meeting. I haven't done that for a long time. So

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John Compton: So that kind of has to be looked at. How do you? How do you get identify? Who is a resident? Who's not?

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John Compton: in the regulations. There are many people. John is responsible, and several other people one, but one is that the lifeguards that is part of their duties, you know, to make sure that that people are eligible, eligible to be there. So

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John Compton: We've started on a trial basis, just to see how it works. An actual sign up sheet like they do it, you know, at private pools where people come in and register who they are, and if they're bringing a guest, have a little table at the entrance to sign

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John Compton: you know, the the lifeguard has only been a couple of days, and so far people have been understanding and do it. It's a lot on lifeguards to kind of

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John Compton: be responsible for that, especially when it gets busy. And they, you know, they have other things that they're looking at. But that's that's something that the committee is going to

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John Compton: kind of we want to look at the regulations and come up with some ideas to present to the Council. What? How we should handle that? The other thing is clarifying the no dog rule in the in the

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John Compton: current regulations. It simply says no dogs, and it's always been kind of, you know, fuzzy around the edges, but having dogs there when everybody's there doing during the day was never really anything that was officially sanctioned. So

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John Compton: That's a policy that we need to look at, and we'll look at and come up with some recommendations to the Council of

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John Compton: of what we want. And the other. The other part was the number of,

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John Compton: number of people that can come in. The rules say that if it's more than 8 people in your party, you need to get a party permit. So that's another thing not really being enforced that we have to look at.

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John Compton: But I just wanted everybody to, you know, kind of officially relook at what the current regulations are. So we know what our starting point is, and then the Lake Committee is, gonna you know, talk about some of this stuff and come up up with some recommendations to bring back to council.

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John Compton: Is this posted on the website?

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John Compton: Yes.

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John Compton: Okay, thanks, Mary. All right. Next item update on the town administrator activities.

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John Compton: So our town administrator over here now. Anna Burke started on July first, st actually, exactly.

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John Compton: So she's been on the job for 13 days, minus…

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John Compton: a bunch of holidays, and what have you? Good job. Wow! So did she get a raise yet? Of course she spent a month with Kathy overlapping with Kathy before in June. There you go. She needs a vacation. Is that what you're saying?

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John Compton: So they hurt.

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John Compton: Her main task is is to familiarize herself with all of the basic responsibilities of of our.

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John Compton: of over the years of the town clerk.

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John Compton: has, has had here in the town office regarding communications of all sorts with town residents.

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John Compton: and that that she's pretty well along with obviously at least.

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John Compton: Whatever one month can do, you know, seasonal stuff.

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John Compton: aside. Her main tasks now, in addition to that.

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John Compton: are to organize the paper files that were holdovers from Kathy's time. There was a fair amount of paper documents and

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John Compton: both Anna's intention and that of the those of us in the Council who hired her is to eliminate as much paper

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John Compton: from the town records as possible and make everything electronic that requires organizing things electronically. So in in the process of

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John Compton: working with the to produce the paper she inherited that will take place as well as all the new documents and stuff that pours in all the time.

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John Compton: Her other priority has been to

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John Compton: bring our code of ordinances up to date.

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John Compton: Most everyone knows that the code of ordinances on paper, which most of you don't have or don't see, but the one on the as well. The one on the website has gaps.

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John Compton: and deficiencies in the information on those ordinances on that code. So in addition, individual actions of the Council, the resolutions and the ordinances are not accessible

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John Compton: On the website, which would be a good idea to have, but they're not even accessible to you guys.

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John Compton: or anybody.

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John Compton: easily. I've been around a while so I can get to most of them, but I discovered one I didn't have just the other week.

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John Compton: Don't ask me how it slipped through the cracks. So her priority has been to organize the individual actions of the Council.

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John Compton: Back to… roughly, 2,013. But she's going further back than that.

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John Compton: into electronic documents with names. In addition, as you all should be aware, Charlie Charleston went to the effort of scanning to Pdf, a great deal, great many resolutions and ordinances. Everything he had

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John Compton: And it could find, and those go back,

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John Compton: I wanna say 1980 something or another.

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John Compton: So yeah, there's a few back that far. Right? And we want those to be part of the record, of course, as well. Many of those are in our code ordinances for those of you don't know. The code of ordinances is the compendium of the ordinances, and

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John Compton: that the Council has passed over the years.

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John Compton: So…

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John Compton: So that's that's that's her her other priority. And when she gets all the documents together, and we have a half a chance of having them individually accessible. Then she's going to look through the code of ordinances and make sure

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John Compton: They say what?

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John Compton: up to the most current actions of the Council, and we'll annotate them.

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John Compton: to say last updated. You know the date will be there, so that a lot of things. If you go to a code in the State or the county, they're largely done that way. So you can have half a chance of knowing that

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John Compton: you know, this one was was revised 2 years ago. That one wasn't 15 years ago, 11.

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John Compton: So that's what her main priorities. There are other things she's going to get involved with, and we're going to get to those when we talk about the website and getting down to that.

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John Compton: Alright, any questions.

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John Compton: I I should say let's just go on. Next item is appointments of the Playground Committee. Since Nick was was elected to the Town Council. His his position on the Playground Committee became open.

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John Compton: kind of a conflict of interest in the console and the player. So the playground committee suggested.

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John Compton: That, A couple… Okay.

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John Compton: would like to both participate and, share, a position. The player committee currently has eight members. So Morgan Black and Johnny Black.

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John Compton: offered to share the one slot, the one vote.

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John Compton: which is really a good deal for the polygon committee, because they get 2 2 heads and I agreed after speaking with them. So I I

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John Compton: I'm looking for confirmation of appointing Morgan Black and Johnny Black as a playground committee.

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John Compton: And move, they'd be appointed.

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John Compton: Nick. Nick has moved. Mary second. Mary has seconded. Any discussion.

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John Compton: A favor.

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John Compton: Thank you. Unanimous appointed. Okay, next item is revision to the basketball court resurfacing contract.

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John Compton: So, last month,

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John Compton: Peter asked the Council to approve going forward with mid Atlantic Provings bid, which was obtained last year. Response to the Rfp. Was one of a few bids.

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John Compton: and and was a little bit.

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John Compton: and we we were unable to award that contract because we didn't have money, and the bid was higher than the budget allowed significantly higher.

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John Compton: We didn't award it for last year, but now this year we put enough money in, so we have funds. So Peter requested that their updated bid, he asked for them to update their bid, which was just a minor increase. And so the Council last month agreed to award Mid-Atlantic

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John Compton: the bid with some additional John Fischer, questions as to what the work would.

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John Compton: entail. So Peter and I met with them, and point out.

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John Compton: discuss the stat of of how best to deal with these extensive cracks, almost all of which appear to be due to roots.

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John Compton: And so Mid Atlantic went away and came back with a revised bid that does a better job of addressing some of those larger cracks and increase the contract by 2,000

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John Compton: roughly, $2,000 which seems like perfectly reasonable to do to to provide a better, better preparation for paving over the existing cracks. We're not. We're not.

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John Compton: We're not digging up the existing pavement. We are

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John Compton: preparing it and putting a new

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John Compton: a layer, 2 inch layer. They also put down a fabric layer that that tends to prevent cracking. It's it's a feature

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John Compton: That is standard. So I I'm here just to get the Council's approval to approve the work with, and I put in the the increased cost of a couple of $1,000 in the

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John Compton: materials. So I'll make a motion to approve Mid-Atlantic.

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John Compton: for the second motion. All right, Peter moved, and Nick has seconded any discussion. The the one thing that I think we're really fortunate about is that asphalt is made out of.

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John Compton: petroleum products, and we are really fortunate that the price didn't go way up. It did go up, but well, not not 25% like gasoline did.

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John Compton: But they said, that's like coming. So anyway, I think you know, I think we're pretty fortunate to be moving forward with this.

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John Compton: I do. I do have one question, though, and one of the things that came up, I guess, maybe last discussion. We're talking.

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John Compton: and that's 2 inches compactly. Is that right?

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John Compton: Okay.

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John Compton: Oh, you mean, is it? How how thick would it be after it? Sounds like, are you Steve, or is this Chris? She said. I I asked her. Steve had that concern.

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John Compton: and I asked her that question, and she said they put 2 2 inches down, and this this is they do this for all the county, you know all the stuff. I said what they're doing for our court.

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John Compton: is what they… that's what every… that's what you do, exactly.

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John Compton: But there are. So Steve Steve's question was more related, not to basketball courts, but to roadways.

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John Compton: as far as the compact, because nobody drives on the on the street. You have obviously cars and trucks and everything else going in and pushing it down on here. We don't. You know, cars don't drive on that. And then she even said that, too. So

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John Compton: So the 2 inches that they're putting down is what you put down. That's that's that's what they do. So compact. And I guess, like you're saying, the additional weight, I mean, not too long ago.

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John Compton: we saw a whole bunch of mulch being dumped on right? Well, of course we're not. But that's because it's it's already wrecked. But we would never. But what I'm saying is from here on out. That's not going to be standard practice. No, never. No, we're going to prohibit vehicles on the back. Yeah, of course. Yeah, I mean the mulch itself. If we have to get rid of the playground, we will just to protect that. That's all.

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John Compton: No mulch, no mulch for you.

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John Compton: No, but it's a good question. Yeah, but but that's that's like, you know, the explanation they gave me, which makes sense. And and then there's and I didn't really have time to go through that. But I guarantee a year.

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John Compton: get some some short term, relatively short term guarantee. Yeah, basketball courts are used so often that yeah, it's like, okay, okay, we don't have to worry about it.

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John Compton: Yeah. And and for I guess the other council members. I did look on on better business, and and they're rated at a plus. Yeah, yeah, they're a good company. So they are a good company, great customer service. And

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John Compton: So okay, thank you. Okay, good question. Anybody else have any questions.

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John Compton: I'll move to a vote all in favor of and see about getting the the playground repaired. I mean the basketball court repaired.

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John Compton: Okay, well, let's, segue into the hard tennis court, which, has cracks as well. Some…

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John Compton: larger and some airline fair number of smaller ones. So what? Just to review, we opted to

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John Compton: get do a trial with a crack filling strategy that Jupiter systems suggested that

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John Compton: I'll simplify that. Mike Shank, who lives over on Ridge Road, is Jupiter Systems, which they… he has used, and others, to fill cracks without

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John Compton: enlarging the cracks or any. It's it's a straightforward. Clean the crack and fill it, and then

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John Compton: But you know, make make sure, make it level. So we tried that on a crack, and the the assessment has been that it looks like it's held up a whopping

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John Compton: 6 weeks or so, and so he put in a proposal to do the rest of the larger cracks, the ones suitable to be filled, not these little ones can't be filled.

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John Compton: And that was roughly, I would say, $4,000, the remaining cracks.

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John Compton: In addition, the court needs cleaning. It has mold and fun stuff like that on it. Whenever the court is even slightly damp, that produces a serious hazard.

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John Compton: becomes very slippery. So he's also included a thorough removal of the mold and a treatment to

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John Compton: retard reappearance of mold. Not sure you can do that around here, but

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John Compton: So I'm I'm I'm I'm going to. I'd like the Council's blessing to go ahead with the the crack repair and separately the the cleanup, the surface cleanup.

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John Compton: of the tennis courts. For now the alternative is, we have money in the budget. We need to make sure we understand what's happening here. We we put in a hundred $20,000 for the hard

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John Compton: And that would pay, that amount was chosen as being, would have covered the high bid to literally take off four or five inches of the

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John Compton: Of the hardcore down to the support.

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John Compton: re, re, re, re level.

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John Compton: the supporting the base and put on a new surface.

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John Compton: We also have bids.

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John Compton: We have lesser bids for that. We also have bids for a less thorough replacement of the hardcore which involve only a few inches not going to the base. and those are in the 70 to 50 to 70 or $80,000 range.

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John Compton: And, depending on how this crack repair Holds up.

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John Compton: We may want to pursue one of those. I won't hazard a guess which or make a recommendation which. But my suggestion is to do this crack repair and reevaluate the court in the spring. We'll have a winter winter of

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John Compton: stress on these tracks, and see if we should go ahead with a surface renewal of of

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John Compton: lesser or greater extent on the on the hardcore people.

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John Compton: So what you're not mentioning is that Mid-Atlantic, when we're doing the bet, they also do tennis courts

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John Compton: And they… so they looked at that, and they… there was two… they gave us two prices, and one… one was to do…

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John Compton: professionally through the cracks, which would be to clean them out, put in a whatever they put in there to do it, and then they would

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John Compton: obviously clean the surface which needs to be done. That's just the paint they would be. Yeah, they would. They would. They would put the paint on that, and then they would line the courts and so I asked her.

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John Compton: And then she gave us a price to basically do what John said, which was to take off

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John Compton: they could take off the coat, and her… her recommendation was to just go with… I think they came up with, like, around $30,000 to do that job, which, you know, this is what they… that was their recommendation. $30,000 for doing what job? To do the crack repair? To do the crack… well, it's crack repair, resurface it. So it'd be resurface.

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John Compton: and then do the lines, and no matter what happens. Speaking, I'm not a pickleballer, but it's used. It's very popular. And that's the car. The course primarily used for pickleball and the lines.

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John Compton: I'm not a fan of pickleball and those lines, but the lines that are on there now are. It's they're terrible. And I think that one thing we do need to do is to do some relining. And so we're looking at, you know, doing band aid stuff and money, money, money. And I mean, I personally would just like to see we're doing the basketball court. We have the money. I'd rather see the tennis courts

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John Compton: you know, redone for the for the $30,000, or at least get some more people in to invest, you know. Get some more bids or experts to come in besides the Atlantic and give us some advice on doing it.

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John Compton: Yeah, I'm not sure what this mayor. I'm not sure what the advantage of is doing kind of a very small repair to wait to the spring. What it's gonna need repairs in the spring as well as it does now. Right may not need repairs in the spring. Yeah.

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John Compton: So is the motion to approve the $30,000. There's no motion.

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John Compton: My proposal was to do the crack, the

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John Compton: to the building repair. So what is Mike's cost with cleaning and the and the repair just over 5,000. Well, it's under 5,000.

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John Compton: But it's really 2 separate things, cleaning and crack.

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John Compton: There were some other… yeah.

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John Compton: So the hope is just to postpone having to spend all that money.

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John Compton: Yeah, it's all about. It's all about. At what point do we need to, you know, bite the bullet, and and then what to do. Peter is describing a resurfacing which doesn't address the

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John Compton: the problem with the cracks, the cause of the cracks. So the cracks almost certainly will reappear. We don't know how long, whether it be 5, 8, 10, 10 years.

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John Compton: Whereas the more expensive repair.

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John Compton: Well, yes, we'll probably be a 20 to

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John Compton: When was the last time the town spent any amount of money?

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John Compton: on those courts.

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John Compton: We have resurfaced it.

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John Compton: I don't recall when it was in in my memory. It was resurfaced, meaning it was. There wasn't much of a crack repair. They probably did it. Whatever was there, and it was resurfaced. I do not remember how much. 6 years ago.

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John Compton: 6 years ago.

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John Compton: Is that what it was that reason they put the color on it. All there was was like a yeah, that was, yeah, it was just resurfacing. Yeah. But there was a ceramic paint, and they put sand in it.

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John Compton: I remember repair further. Yes, it was like a big amount. He's he's spent on it. It was a much bigger project. Yeah, yeah, it was. It was before.

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John Compton: The other thing, John, is that, because you aren't there, the

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John Compton: which is interesting is that all over the tennis courts she was showing me the these cracks everywhere. The cracks weren't from tree roots or anything else. The cracks were the actual paint.

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John Compton: was… was separating, and the paint, the whole thing, can peel up, and that's what was happening on there. If you look at it really carefully, it looks like, you know, you have all these cracks of roots, so you assume they're all a result of that, but the actual surface

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John Compton: is

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John Compton: you know, it's not adhering. So you're saying just the top surface is cracking, not the underlying. It's paint. There's a layer. There's you know, they put all at the surface over which they put the surface. Yeah, it's black. It's like a basketball court. It's black top, and then they put this special paint on top of it, which is very thick, and it's like a matting almost.

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John Compton: That's maybe, like, a sixteenth of an inch thick, like a fabric almost, and it's

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John Compton: and it's and so it can peel up. And so that's another thing that's happening. Don't go run, run, run into the foundation of the court. No, no, it's just the paint itself. It's just that layer of paint that's starting to.

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John Compton: Right? It's not a foundation. Yeah, okay, yeah, it's not a foundation. There are

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John Compton: probably 5. I don't know how many actual

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John Compton: seriously deep cracks, structural cracks for a varying length. Yeah, I've seen those. Yeah, yeah.

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John Compton: Okay.

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John Compton: So you know, they, you know, we can leave it and do nothing and plan to do something in the fall.

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John Compton: What's it cost to re-line? Do you remember what it cost to put the pickleball? Well, we were already going to go ahead and do that. As what? We were already going to bite the bullet and do that. Oh, you are going to do that. Even though, if you're going to resurface, you have to re-line. So, you know.

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John Compton: You spend it now, and then you'll do it over again. Yeah.

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John Compton: But you know, if it's important to the game, you you need to have one. Yeah, yeah.

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John Compton: Right. I think that's a pressing priority, and then everything else is. Like you say, do we want to push it down the road? If we have the money, why not just get it done?

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John Compton: So we can we have a motion? Then we've been talking about it for quite a while. Well, I I'm not comfortable with. Personally, I think that if we're going to spend $30,000, we should get whatever we should get more information or more bids. And in the meantime I mean, I don't know. We will have to issue an Rfp.

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John Compton: Yeah, yeah. Get bids and then decide what to do. And we to do that. We have to be make very clear what we're asking them to bid on, whether it's a

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John Compton: a a crack, repair, surfacing, or a re rebuilding a re pouring of…

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John Compton: But we have… am I wrong? Don't we have bids in here?

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John Compton: We have proposals, proposals. Yeah, that's it.

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John Compton: and they're they have different. They're 2 different. As I said, they address 2 different

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John Compton: So it seems to me we we need more experts coming in, taking a look at this course and court and saying, really, what's going finding out what's really going on? What really will get make the best long term repair. I mean, if there's if there's structural things going on seems to me those need to be a

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John Compton: be evaluated by a number of different people and get some proposals and best way to fix them.

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John Compton: I mean, because you want a long-term fix, I would think. Yeah, I don't know what… John's got a lot of information, I don't know anything about what he's done, I just know that these people were doing the basketball court, so I asked them to look at it, and so I'm not, you know…

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John Compton: I'm not the person. But right now it's just a matter of do we want to spend $5,000 to do a band aid, and then alright. Well, we have to get the lines. Well, the pickleball. That's more 1,000 for the pickleball lines. That's errors.

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01:21:20.320 --> 01:21:26.450
John Compton: perspective, if anything. So it's it's the better part of a thousand to clean the court.

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John Compton: and just get them all off. It's about 4,000 to do the practice. Is there any safety issues that

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John Compton: would be, I mean, I've seen some of the packs are really huge, and you probably have to dance around them. So a temporary fill for $4,000 just to relieve any kind of immediate hazards. It's like that makes that makes some kind of sense. Nobody has tripped over them yet to me. It looks like what happened. Pardon.

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01:21:58.170 --> 01:22:02.520
John Compton: I would imagine it affects playing if the ball bounces into the horseshoe crab.

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01:22:03.090 --> 01:22:14.150
John Compton: I mean $4,000 in a whole lot of money. So compared to 120,000. So yeah, or 80 or $80,000 is, that's

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John Compton: Well, you know, we're not gonna do this. I mean getting getting the Rfp. Written and getting bids in and having people come out and give them engineering. That's gonna take a long time. So for the rest of the season, it kind of makes sense to fill in the cracks, just alleviate any hazards.

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John Compton: I mean, we can agree, let's fill the cracks, and let's put together the RFP, and let's get the proposals in, so that we can make a reasoned decision, and the work will be done. If we get… if all that goes quickly, it could be done before winter, or the worst case, after winter, whenever they…

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John Compton: whatever the requirements are for doing this, I suspect it's relatively warm weather, not Really cold weather.

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01:23:00.340 --> 01:23:03.070
John Compton: You're not poor asphalt and cold weather.

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John Compton: So we could agree to do it that way. Sure.

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John Compton: I don't know. It's just I'm sorry. But the like, the cleaning the courts like, have you been on the court like, does it really need to be absolutely. You think you think so if I if it's a damp.

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John Compton: evening, I mean, if it's a day, any any wet or anything just damp, because I want to do. Yeah.

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01:23:30.280 --> 01:23:34.590
John Compton: Good luck out there with your sliding around on the on the mold.

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John Compton: It's the back. It's not on the court.

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John Compton: Yeah, yeah, it's not okay. And but I mean, I'm just saying we're gonna we're basically, then we're gonna send gonna spend money on cleaning it and putting lines down. And then we're gonna go. And then we're gonna redo it. Yeah, okay, if we do it, it'll be that money will be that. Yeah.

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John Compton: Yeah, that's part of the idea.

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John Compton: you know, it's not. I don't like it. That's why I've kind of dragged my feet. And is it? I mean, the thing is that, is it so pressing that we need to spend that money now versus waiting a couple of months to just. If you wait a couple of months, you might as well wait till the spring, and then we we might as well decide whether to do it. But

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John Compton: Do it.

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John Compton: My personal opinion is, unless unless we really put our noses to it. Yeah, we we wouldn't be able to make a decision until.

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John Compton: mid-fall, and we'd be lucky to get it done before next spring. Right. Well, I use all my energy on the basketball court, so… I know, I mean, it takes energy. I'm letting this group decide what you guys want to do. But we don't… I mean, we… when I say we have proposals, we literally have… some of them are fairly…

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John Compton: Compact, and it's not full.

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John Compton: you know.

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John Compton: They're not full proposals. They're not a response to a set of criteria. They're just

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John Compton: Here's our core. What you know. What would it cost for you to work on it? I tell you.

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John Compton: And Meredith got the money, and to her credit, and gave us, balfour.

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John Compton: numbers that we have in the budget.

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John Compton: Okay, so I didn't want to spend the 4,000 without without the Council knowing that that would happen.

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John Compton: I do think the cleaning, I guess the pickleball lining.

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John Compton: Shoot our priorities for sure. Tell Mike we want him to use green fill up so it doesn't. He? Oh, part of it is to match. He will match it. Yeah. Oh, good! Yeah, he's got part of it. He's put in there of of materials thing to match whatever color the town wants. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this time that was a trial. So you don't don't hold them to.

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John Compton: Yeah, you know.

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John Compton: product on that one.

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01:26:00.810 --> 01:26:09.230
John Compton: So did the decision. I would like to have a proposal to go ahead with this, a motion to go ahead with it.

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John Compton: You don't even need one, because it's under $5,000. Well, yeah.

582
01:26:15.700 --> 01:26:25.340
John Compton: You need a motion. Oh, I want the council. I make a motion, perform maintenance, repair now and evaluate resurfacing the spring. All right, I'll second it.

583
01:26:25.680 --> 01:26:32.489
John Compton: Okay, further further. So either. So what is that? The Jupiter systems proposal? Okay.

584
01:26:35.850 --> 01:26:36.670
John Compton: Okay.

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01:26:37.220 --> 01:26:39.390
John Compton: and further discussion. All in favor.

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01:26:39.960 --> 01:26:45.180
John Compton: Alright. Thank you. That's you. Thank you. It it Believe me,

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01:26:45.570 --> 01:26:54.480
John Compton: not enthusiastic about doing something that we may well just obliterate in less than 12 months.

588
01:26:55.010 --> 01:26:56.469
John Compton: All right.

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01:26:56.590 --> 01:27:02.980
John Compton: Report on the status of website management I have. I will.

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01:27:03.130 --> 01:27:08.259
John Compton: I don't really want to make a long deal about this, but

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John Compton: I want to show you what the operating document looks like, which is not definitive, but is indeed

592
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John Compton: what is going on.

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John Compton: and

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01:27:29.140 --> 01:27:37.050
John Compton: All right. So you should be able to see in front of you a document that is titled Web Projects Pipeline.

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01:27:38.310 --> 01:27:43.979
John Compton: And this is attempt to list.

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John Compton: most, if not all, of the current website projects that that are has been… Ray,

597
01:27:59.170 --> 01:28:02.710
John Compton: discussed as being desirable.

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John Compton: Whether they are still a priority remains to be seen.

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John Compton: Alright. So you will see with regard to the website managing the website content. which is what I have been filling in doing.

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John Compton: you know, to more or less some success, although not maybe as timely as everyone would like with Marcus Trapp, our website developer. He has been doing the updates, and I've been providing him the information, and others have been providing me with the information to provide to Marcus.

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John Compton: Anna has expressed an interest in and thinks that it would be appropriate for her to participate, if not take over this. I'm a little bit of 2 minds on that. It it can take longer than one would like.

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John Compton: But to move in that direction, which is certainly to get it out of my work list into somebody else's, whether it's Anna or somebody else. We have. We've spoken with Marcus, and Marcus is going to show Anna some of the really gonna have a discussion about the ropes. This would involve getting into wordpress.

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John Compton: be able to put the documents up wherever they are, whatever pages, whatever. So, so that's, that's in progress. The, the story about website content is anybody

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John Compton: And we're gonna talk about communication. So it's not here.

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01:29:34.620 --> 01:29:37.590
John Compton: who has an issue.

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01:29:37.760 --> 01:29:40.740
John Compton: It's the content on any page.

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John Compton: Alright need to.

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John Compton: identify someone to update, to provide the the information they they believe should be there.

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01:29:54.480 --> 01:29:59.260
John Compton: and we can get it done. But we don't have bandwidth, we being me.

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01:29:59.400 --> 01:30:05.389
John Compton: doesn't have bandwidth to go and pour through the website and find everything that's out of date, or

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John Compton: not insufficient information, whatever.

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John Compton: So it relies on the committees and interested people who are interested in the various parts of the website to

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John Compton: to contribute to updating the content. We'll get it done.

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John Compton: We just need to get them new material.

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John Compton: Provided.

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John Compton: That's project ongoing. It's a priority. Everybody seems to.

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John Compton: rig on that.

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01:30:37.040 --> 01:30:39.599
John Compton: If you, if I'm mistaken, let me know.

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John Compton: The next one is the request tracking system to manage requests and suggestions. This was the jacket. I'm already forgetting who suggested this.

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01:30:51.390 --> 01:31:00.100
John Compton: last year. But this is a really terrific idea. And it addresses residents.

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John Compton: complaints that they note things that need to be done. They inform the town, the Council, Peter, and for some one reason or the other, they don't see any progress on it, and nobody knows what happened to those requests.

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John Compton: This would be a system to to list all the requests and assign responsibility. Who's supposed to do something about it and then provide updates on what's happening.

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John Compton: If it was decided not to do it fine. That would be the decision. If it was something you couldn't do yet fine. If they're about to get to it great, anyway, to track the the those requests. And Anna and I have discussed Anna and I and Gene and anybody else who

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John Compton: wants can can contribute is the ideally, this would be on the website, but it doesn't have to be. It can be a it can be a document, an Excel file.

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01:32:00.130 --> 01:32:10.629
John Compton: or would would be a great start, which just lists requests and then has columns for the various pieces of information. Who's responsible?

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John Compton: Whoever creates this list, and I'm looking with Anna now that I can look around the corner will notify the responsible person.

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John Compton: and then we'll also notify them when they haven't done anything. I mean, what's going on.

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John Compton: and keep this up to date, and hopefully it won't grow to be too overwhelming, although it might, and that once it's set up.

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John Compton: we could then have on the website, so that no longer does Anna have to do it. But somebody can fill out a form. Here's here's what I think needs to be done that would go into the system would notify whoever, and we would therefore have a way of of handling all these requests.

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John Compton: Okay, so that project is is on the on the high up on me.

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John Compton: desirability and

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John Compton: And I think Anna's going to give it a shot at sort of trying it with Not with old stuff, but new stuff that comes in. We can deal with old stuff and treat it as new stuff. This is like really This is similar to like every county's 311, which is a fantastic system.

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John Compton: And, we could actually look at what they do. And, because a lot of that's automated, too, but they… you always get a response back, and, exactly. They can't… it can't get buried like it used to be.

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John Compton: Yeah, it's the same thing, you know, not gonna be as sophisticated. People hire 3 people, by the way.

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John Compton: Okay, next one. The letters to the mayor and council. Christine, of course, took it on herself to post.

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John Compton: Pdf. Copies of letters when they were submitted in Pdf. Running

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John Compton: running entries of ledgers to the Mayor Castle, and she really spoiled the town residents by doing it very quickly for a fair amount of the time. I do want to point out that there is no

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John Compton: legal responsibility.

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01:34:20.470 --> 01:34:22.370
John Compton: For the town to do this.

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John Compton: Any resident can query the town office about for public information about letters to the Council, and could get get hear about it that way.

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John Compton: all right. That's the standard way. Most most

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01:34:42.150 --> 01:34:50.089
John Compton: governments handle it, but by proactively putting them on the website, we were going A step beyond.

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01:34:50.480 --> 01:34:59.349
John Compton: anyway, the that's that's the reality is that we choose to do it. The good news is that it's something that could be almost

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John Compton: entirely automated.

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01:35:03.140 --> 01:35:04.380
John Compton: Once again.

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John Compton: Somebody… I mean, we could receive these.

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John Compton: somebody would have responsibility for vetting them because we can't have. We're not posting

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01:35:14.900 --> 01:35:20.940
John Compton: offensive stuff, and and then just send it along to a

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01:35:21.820 --> 01:35:35.279
John Compton: web page which would automatically put it in for the next one. Just basically what Christine was doing. But I've we talked to Marcus trap about finding a way to minimize human intervention. Once

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John Compton: a letter was approved for this process. Okay, that's another… I think that's… depending on what the council wants to do, that's potentially a,

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John Compton: a desirable thing. All right. Here we are. The ordinances and and resolutions current and accessible on the website. So we're 1st of all, we're trying to

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John Compton: update the code of ordinances, which doesn't require them to be accessible on the website, it requires us to get the code of ordinances up to date, and then we want that on the website. But we can put them all on there, and

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John Compton: That's desirable. I also have that 508 compliant thing.

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John Compton: Those of you don't know. That's the that's the accessibility standard to make Written documents.

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John Compton: and other sorts of documents accessible to to all user.

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John Compton: All right. The tennis court reservation system was something that was requested some years ago, and, believe it or not, that is close to being tested.

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John Compton: Yes.

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John Compton: Our ordinances say that the tennis courts are used on a first-come, first-served basis, so it appears that a reservation system would conflict with that.

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John Compton: Yeah, well, we would have to approve it. I mean, we're not implementing a system without without a policy. So we would overturn the ordinance.

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John Compton: Is it an ordinance or a resolution? It's probably a resolute policy. The procedure should be resolutions. I thought it was an ordinance that was sent to us when there was a with the whole thing about locking the tennis courts.

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John Compton: I'm pretty sure that was a policy. I have to look it up. It's important point, because you have to do an ordinance. We try and keep those as resolutions, because that's the only way you can.

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John Compton: efficiently change them rather than go through this. And it's still 1st come 1st serve. It's just yeah, it's just on the website. Think about it.

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John Compton: okay. If you have a reservation, it's about whoever makes the reservation first.st Yeah.

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John Compton: It all depends. It all depends on how far in advance you can make your reservation. Well, there can be rules about that. Yeah, yeah, I mean, yeah.

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John Compton: Okay, there is a project we need. We have. So the all governments, including local governments, are mandated to to make web content content accessible. It was going to be. It was going to. The deadline was for for small

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John Compton: municipalities. April of next year they

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John Compton: because for large municipalities it was April of this year. Guess what they pushed it off a year. So it's larger municipalities next year, and we are now not until 28.

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John Compton: Well, it is on on Marcus traps.

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John Compton: radar that we do need to

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John Compton: meet these requirements. So it's well, it's not a priority in the short term. It's definitely gonna have to become something that needs to be done all right. Some other other ideas updating house histories and having them

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John Compton: online. And I have in their start a volunteer effort since House Histories was a volunteer effort, and keeping them current is a formidable

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John Compton: Yeah.

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John Compton: Down.

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John Compton: or expanding them.

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John Compton: Online submissions of applications and permits for review.

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John Compton: or the planning commission.

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John Compton: has a now has online submission of the permit request.

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John Compton: But the rest of the permit.

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John Compton: All the other documents have to be delivered.

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John Compton: On paper.

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John Compton: and whereas if you try to go to the county's Dgs, I'm sorry. Dps. Dps, thank you. Dps. They now require all submissions to be electronic, and they have a

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John Compton: a fancy system, including

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John Compton: the engineering plans and all that stuff. That's why we don't have police support. Yeah, okay, so how much further we want to go for online submissions is is

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John Compton: is, there's another priority to set the search engine we all know sucks.

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John Compton: not to put too fine a point on it, and to improve it has been a request from many people, and I've asked Marcus to look into that and actually have to pursue that.

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John Compton: And finally, the idea of having an online directory. And actually, one thing is not on here. I see it now. Could that be?

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John Compton: Oh, I just skipped over it. Online directory. So, everybody has spoken about having an online directory.

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John Compton: This exposes some personal information.

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John Compton: you know, just like having online used to be with an online telephone book, the telephone books. So anyway, that's I won't belabor that. But I did over. I did pass over this 3rd one here.

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John Compton: This one. And this is another, another one, which just recently, and maybe…

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John Compton: Mary may address this, and that is that

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John Compton: in in order to satisfy residents with getting being able to get communications from the town.

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John Compton: Whether they're Grove Alerts.

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John Compton: or information about what the Planning Commission is doing, or what the lake is going on at the lake.

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John Compton: It would be fantastic if we had an online system to opt in and out.

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John Compton: of communications.

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John Compton: different subsets of communication.

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John Compton: and by opt, I'm gonna the opt out would be the Grove alert business because we cheat. We used to grow the alerts as an official

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John Compton: Notification.

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John Compton: to all poverty, which is mentioned in our charter for various purposes. But so opting out of that is a

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John Compton: you know, causes but opting in to all the other…

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John Compton: variations. That would be a great system, and I think that may may end up. We'll see being something to to implement sooner or later. Okay, this is the list current list. There are no doubt things not on here, and plenty of other ideas that

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John Compton: Good. Thank you.

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John Compton: So that's… that's my update, As to how…

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John Compton: Oh, and I should mention Arlene Mccrean.

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John Compton: because all these projects, with the exception to the one I mentioned mentioned Anna.

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John Compton: She. She is currently the the website.

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John Compton: Oh.

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John Compton: Development, project management.

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John Compton: doesn't do the doesn't do the the development. But

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John Compton: does serves to communicate the details, etc, with our developer.

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John Compton: So she's very, very valuable to have someone doing that who has some knowledge of what's going on and can talk to the town, obviously, as well as the developer.

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John Compton: So you know, just just I just want to mention this to our my esteemed colleagues here that I know Chat Gp has

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John Compton: has mixed reviews from some people and all that. But

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John Compton: I have used it a couple times to search for things within the Grove, and it is absolutely terrifying.

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John Compton: how instantly it'll give me an ordinance, it'll give me basically anything that happens electronically here, whether it's on the website, or I don't know where, you know, where all this stuff is housed, but it can instantly pull in

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John Compton: And then, you know, it's public. It's like, you know, one time I was looking we're trying to find a salary for our administrator, and and instantly one second told me what Kathy's salary was.

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John Compton: plus every salary for every other person they hold. It's unbelievable. And so we talk about, you know, everything's connected now. And so when we're working on the website and all these things we're doing, that's the tool that's out there. And it's really, really scary, powerful.

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John Compton: with it.

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John Compton: Can't go away, either.

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John Compton: Alright, I'm done. Okay, alright, that's that's that we have. We now come to the communication between residents and the Town Council, and this is

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John Compton: Gonna toss it over to Nick and Mary. I have a resolution handed out to everybody. I don't think I need a res. Do I need to read the resolution? Yeah, okay.

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John Compton: I'm offering this resolution, and then I'd like to give a little bit of instruction as to I don't know. Does it need to be

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John Compton: motion. Yes, you can move to approve. Okay, well, I don't know if I can introduce. I'm introducing resolution establishment council work group on communication. Well, you move to approve it. No, let's move to introduce.

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John Compton: Then we discuss.

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John Compton: Then we approve.

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John Compton: CLAB, You need a motion to approve. I agree. But 1

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John Compton: or do it the other way around. I don't want to belabor the point. Okay, move to approve. I mean, it comes out of nowhere. Go ahead.

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John Compton: comes out of Roberts. Who's in order? That's not nowhere.

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John Compton: Okay, well, I make a motion motion to approve approve the resolution.

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John Compton: I second.

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John Compton: Okay.

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John Compton: Now we can discuss. Now you can. Do you start the discussion with why you think this should be appropriate? Yeah, I'd like to to do a little bit of background on why I did this. I I'm impressed with what you're doing.

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John Compton: planning to do with the website.

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John Compton: It's been a real problem in the past. We know that 2 people who presented tonight specifically dealt with problems on the website about not having information. If it comes to pass, that's great.

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John Compton: Now, I'm going to take a different approach and say that You're based totally in technology.

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John Compton: as opposed to what I consider

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John Compton: face-to-face communication, which is more important. I've been working with Washington World Cares. I've been going into people's homes

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John Compton: to help them or stuff. They don't know

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John Compton: about Washington World Cares. It's only by word of mouth that I got in there through the back door to help these people.

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John Compton: They're not on the listserv. Half the town is not on the listserv, and they don't know how to use the website.

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John Compton: There is a group in town who is sophisticated enough that knows how to do this, but there's a very large group who doesn't, and there's a very large group who have problems with their eyesight, who have problems using computers, looking at the website and other stuff, too.

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John Compton: It's if if you look

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John Compton: at what this community is. There are about 15% of people who actively participate in everything we do, and there's about

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John Compton: maybe 80% who don't.

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John Compton: They're the ones who I'm trying to address. How do we communicate with those people? How do we get stuff to them? How do we deal with them? I don't think it's through

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John Compton: a website.

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John Compton: I don't think it's through the listserv. I think there are other ways we have to do, even maybe going back to paper monthly handouts, which is what the Washington Grove Cares is going to do, literally handing things out to doors with magnets and other things, too, to get people educated.

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John Compton: I mean, we've had this terrible winter, we had this recent heat dome.

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John Compton: People are only going to be more vulnerable as we go forward. We're going to need the help of Washington Girl Cares.

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John Compton: me doing that with the people of Washington Grove cares made me stand back and look at how we communicate with the citizens in town, and I think that we're very

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John Compton: tech heavy.

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John Compton: And I think that tech heaviness does not address a lot of people who are not into tech and who need the help and who need the information.

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John Compton: that's why I did the proposal. I mean, I looked at… I looked at the… the 2018 and 2020 feedback from people. It's amazing how

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John Compton: Everybody's saying exactly the same. When I talk with people, they're saying exactly what they're saying in 2018 and 2020.

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John Compton: I think that the website only.

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01:49:00.210 --> 01:49:07.170
John Compton: addresses a small percentage of the communication problem. And that's why I would ask that we

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John Compton: work group to try to come up with other ways to better communicate with the people in town.

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John Compton: They're not happy with us. They're not happy with us because of lack of communication.

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John Compton: It's interesting when I got that letter from WSSC, how many people called me and said, how come we didn't know about this?

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John Compton: I don't know. I didn't know about

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John Compton: Apparently, some people did know about it.

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John Compton: But, you know, would a website solve that? I don't know.

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John Compton: But what I do know is that there is a very serious problem with communication in this town, and I think that it goes beyond fixing the website.

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John Compton: That's all I have to say.

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John Compton: I would. I would totally argue with your numbers. I think that you're being really unfair by saying 15% and 80%. I think those numbers are way. How many people came to the chili dinner? How many people came to 4th of July? How many people show up with it? How many people vote.

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John Compton: Yeah, that's not. That's not a communication. That's that's that's you know, it's it's it's.

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John Compton: Yeah, I think this is…

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John Compton: Yeah, I've been left with him for the years, and I think we definitely have a communication problem. But I don't think I don't. I don't.

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John Compton: I think everything you said is great, and there's a percentage of people who might feel disenfranchised because of the technology, but I think that

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John Compton: The communication from the mayor, from the council, from the committees, where it goes, who receives it, how they communicate back. It drives me crazy when people, when residents, and they do it all the time, they have a question.

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John Compton: and they throw it out. It drives me crazy on the listserv for the entire town to have a discussion. When? Why don't they call the town clerk?

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John Compton: And maybe, you know, and now we… and now we have a different… you know, we're addressing that a little differently, but why don't they go? Why don't they go to the people, like, you know, we had a… even, like, with this whole thing about with the, the sprays, which was a very valid thing, but it's also…

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John Compton: Georgette is a person who has the answer instantly. And everybody knows Georgette is F&B.

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John Compton: and people choose rather than doing that. Wait. I'm not sure everybody knows that that's it's not just one way communication. It's the 2 way communication. And you know, we've got. We've got 500 people that live in this town. We've got all these volunteers who do things.

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John Compton: And so so maybe it's a matter of just educating. The kiosks are an example. Okay, of of

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01:51:49.260 --> 01:52:01.769
John Compton: trying to begin a process of communication where, if you want information, and it's just beginning, you know. But people will eventually be trained to look at the kiosk and get

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John Compton: updated information as opposed to we support hundreds of flyers paper all over town, which would it would rain. It'd get soggy. They'd be curved.

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John Compton: and after a while you train yourself. You don't know if it's a new one or an old one. And so moving in that direction of saying, what are you know? What are the needs? And how do we basically, how do we communicate?

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John Compton: I spent my entire career with communication, teaching communication skills. Say, look at this. And we need to put a committee together. I agree. Look at all the ways that we do communicate right now. How can we improve that? And it's not the website. It's not magic. It's not going to change it. And what you're talking about is part of it.

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John Compton: But it's misleading to make it sound like that's the solution. Yeah, I think we need to address this. Yeah, I think the idea of you know, it's it's come up often enough. And this is a recurring thing. The idea of getting actually getting group

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John Compton: to look specifically at all the different aspects of it. Holistically, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like nobody. Otherwise you just talk about it, and you get complaints, and then you fix that. But we need. We really need to, you know, to look at overall. Yeah, nobody's to blame. Everybody's doing the best they can.

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John Compton: But we we always do things the way we've always done things, too. And we have to look at. How do we? How do we, you know, take advantage of technology and our resources? And how do we, you know, move forward.

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John Compton: That's all it's like. So yeah, I mean, I I think, Nick.

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John Compton: focus on kind of the the most, the most.

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John Compton: reasonable thing to do is to get a group together and discuss what what is really deficient, and what sorts of solutions are there?

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John Compton: Why is it deficient? And what solutions are? That's this proposal. That's all. It is the justification. But that's his proposal. But I'm saying that there's a bigger. But the proposal is only to put it. It's not a solution. The group will discuss that. So that's the thing that will come into the discussion. I thought the proposal was great. It's just and we happen to have Marita Heinz sitting here.

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John Compton: who was the last council member to To

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John Compton: spend energy trying to address communication gap.

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John Compton: that residents were complaining about.

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John Compton: And that's what you were referring to. She's the one with the group, the work group that put together some steps that everybody felt would improve things.

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John Compton: And that was what now, 6 years ago, 7 years ago.

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John Compton: And and and to the extent that didn't satisfy the needs of everyone. That's you know, it's

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John Compton: certainly was was not expected to solve the problems, and clearly it hasn't so I I don't. I I really applaud Nick for approaching this in a in a

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John Compton: you know, systematic way. Let's not claim this as a solution. Let's put together and and and get a group to consider what solutions what are problems that we we can have solutions to. That's always that's half the issue, in my opinion.

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John Compton: everybody comes to this same conclusion themselves. Eventually there will always be people complaining that they don't know what's going on.

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01:55:38.880 --> 01:55:42.600
John Compton: because they don't take the trouble to read.

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John Compton: the various and sundry things that we put out regularly that explain what's going on, you know. They'll be surprised that, hey? We've been. We've been you know, has a have a stormwater management project. Because I didn't want to read

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John Compton: for whatever reason, and they're entitled not to do it.

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01:56:04.140 --> 01:56:10.690
John Compton: what It's more difficult is to know when to pay attention to

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01:56:10.790 --> 01:56:13.519
John Compton: When when it's a when it's the problem of

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John Compton: disseminating the information in a way that it will be be provided adequately, and when it's a problem with those who just don't take the trouble to do it. So

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John Compton: I think Nick gave a good printing on book. He was talking about people. I think you were saying people who literally, you know, aren't able

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John Compton: to use the technological modes that we are providing information, and it might be benefited by an alternative.

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01:56:45.780 --> 01:57:01.869
John Compton: Okay, yeah, we're not arguing, but I'm technologically savvy. I was 10 years ago. I am totally overwhelmed and cannot get the information I need. I'm on the council.

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John Compton: This between spam and the different, all the different email accounts we have, especially in this town. Who uses that? This, like, from the top down, who uses who uses dot gov?

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John Compton: I didn't have this. Yeah, it took me like forever to get it right. I can't. I haven't started using it, but I have to. But but all my emails for town work comes through my regular account, and half of at least 50% go to spam.

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John Compton: And I have 80 or 90 spans every day, junk mail. And I have a special account for another account for the Grove, which is on Gmail. And I'm just saying, I'm just saying that

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John Compton: It's difficult. And so I imagine everybody is kind of going through — a lot of people at least are going through the same thing of you not getting information.

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01:57:53.880 --> 01:57:56.270
John Compton: And we need to look at that. That's all.

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John Compton: Among other… and this is… this is one way we communicate. We communicate in many, many different ways. And so, how do we communicate

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John Compton: you know, and Nick brought that, you know. Nick used one example. But I agree talking about putting a little group together to look at all these things and see how we can improve. It is. I'm I'm agreeing with that. I just disagree with you. 15%. That's all. But no, but I totally agree with what you said.

813
01:58:21.370 --> 01:58:23.399
John Compton: I think the person who told me that was you.

814
01:58:26.410 --> 01:58:29.850
John Compton: I don't even have a good answer to that. Okay.

815
01:58:29.850 --> 01:58:48.990
John Compton: All right. Any other comments on the resolution on the table? My only comment to the resolution is that do we really need a resolution? And I say that only because we ended up with a vacant property, what turned out to be an ordinance. Without a resolution, we were able to effectively put together a good team of folks.

816
01:58:48.990 --> 01:58:54.600
John Compton: And what worries me is part of all the the data

817
01:58:54.630 --> 01:58:57.620
John Compton: That we're having to deal with, right? Hmm.

818
01:58:57.930 --> 01:59:11.830
John Compton: right now, and that's 1 of the things I brought up a couple of months ago is, you know, when you take a look at the website, you'll see that there's 1 resolution that talks about town hall rentals and usage. But then, if you go to take a look.

819
01:59:12.300 --> 01:59:18.619
John Compton: There's another resolution that's almost identical. That was written, you know, 8 years apart from each other.

820
01:59:18.730 --> 01:59:32.080
John Compton: I'm you know, it's unfortunate that configuration control, I think, is a big issue, and all we got to do is add to the pile by putting another resolution out there. I'll tell you why I did a resolution. The reason I did a resolution is

821
01:59:32.080 --> 01:59:40.539
John Compton: Having watched this council for a year and been on and off for 3 months, things tend to go on and on and on.

822
01:59:41.030 --> 01:59:43.280
John Compton: and the resolution says.

823
01:59:43.390 --> 01:59:47.160
John Compton: I see the work group brings back recommendations within 4 months.

824
01:59:47.500 --> 01:59:51.200
John Compton: I mean, I specifically wanted a time frame in there so that it wouldn't go

825
01:59:51.840 --> 02:00:04.310
John Compton: on, so it's not 2018 and 2020, and now we're 6 years later, and the residents are still having the same complaints. So why can't we establish within this council

826
02:00:04.590 --> 02:00:21.130
John Compton: a team, and it's the mayor agreed to a certain due date for a report. Another case in point is, we had. I'm fine with that. I'm perfectly fine. Any comment. Resolutions are just formal.

827
02:00:21.190 --> 02:00:34.930
John Compton: expressions of emotion. Emotion is the same thing as a resolution. It just doesn't go into the detail, the background. And it, you know, it's not it's not

828
02:00:35.490 --> 02:00:42.529
John Compton: Well, I just said it's not as detailed and on record as being. Here's what the Council wants to do.

829
02:00:42.990 --> 02:00:48.469
John Compton: You can do motions fine, and you can. You can attach, I mean.

830
02:00:48.710 --> 02:00:58.980
John Compton: deadlines and timelines. And you know, somebody just has to pay attention to them. Right? Well, I think you know another point that I was going to bring up is the the trail safety.

831
02:00:59.040 --> 02:01:14.519
John Compton: work group that we had. We just kind of, you know, collectively, and and and the mayor put an email with a list of bullets of what he wanted, and and deliverables showed up, and and we were very successful without having to add my again. I can't emphasize enough.

832
02:01:14.670 --> 02:01:19.119
John Compton: It's gonna be, it's gonna be a nightmare.

833
02:01:19.370 --> 02:01:31.519
John Compton: for Anna to go through all of the documents to see what we have out there, because we keep pumping out resolutions. You know, it… it's…

834
02:01:31.750 --> 02:01:46.230
John Compton: I was surprised to see two for the Town Hall that were almost identical. I don't know what's different between the two. Didn't the newer one say this supplants resolution or whatever? No. Yeah, sure it did. I'm pretty sure it did.

835
02:01:46.350 --> 02:01:48.960
John Compton: If it didn't, that was an oversight.

836
02:01:49.120 --> 02:01:58.079
John Compton: It should have said, this supplants the whatever, whatever, whatever, and you can't get rid of the earlier one. It's a matter of record.

837
02:01:59.180 --> 02:02:12.739
John Compton: and you can't put the in the in the newer one. You can't have all the copies referred to. I mean the older one refer to a newer one. You you simply have to be the latest one, and all

838
02:02:13.300 --> 02:02:20.950
John Compton: who gave a public appearance was complaining that the newest

839
02:02:22.130 --> 02:02:31.849
John Compton: renewable energy program rules were not on the website. In fact, it was the original ones, and there's been some changes. So it's the same problem.

840
02:02:32.450 --> 02:02:36.039
John Compton: The new one didn't. The old one didn't refer to a newer one.

841
02:02:36.220 --> 02:02:46.250
John Compton: So I'm not sure there's any way of… fixing what you're saying, except If the code of ordinances.

842
02:02:47.330 --> 02:02:48.690
John Compton: is up to date.

843
02:02:49.000 --> 02:03:01.999
John Compton: which within a certain very short time, when an ordinance is becomes effective. Code reflects that. Yes, okay, I agree. That's not gonna help you with policies and procedures. That's another

844
02:03:02.300 --> 02:03:27.189
John Compton: organization. I'm just saying we shouldn't add to the pile until we catch up to where we need to. It keeps raining. You got to keep bailing. We were able to accomplish the fail safety path.

845
02:03:27.390 --> 02:03:43.000
John Compton: And what else did I bring up? The vacant properties. And they were very successful, and in a timely fashion. So, you know, that's… Well, either way, I don't have anything against the resolution. I thought it was well…

846
02:03:43.150 --> 02:03:53.619
John Compton: well conceived. It it and and it sets up a way of moving forward. So let's just go with it the next time you can do a motion.

847
02:03:53.900 --> 02:04:05.849
John Compton: instead of a resolution. It's just the same thing in a different way, and you know it is always a good idea to have written down. The expectations from this action are boom to boom to boom.

848
02:04:06.240 --> 02:04:08.989
John Compton: We all agree with that, I think.

849
02:04:09.100 --> 02:04:12.400
John Compton: And it's a way of, you know, keeping ourselves

850
02:04:12.650 --> 02:04:25.030
John Compton: honest about what's going on. I hear you. But but again, okay, I know you're you're in the tail safety. We had bullets from you, and we worked off of this. Okay.

851
02:04:25.350 --> 02:04:26.200
John Compton: So.

852
02:04:27.300 --> 02:04:29.940
John Compton: Does it say somewhere in here that it have to?

853
02:04:30.330 --> 02:04:36.250
John Compton: give them. Do it in 4 months. Oh, I see. Okay.

854
02:04:39.240 --> 02:04:40.270
John Compton: Okay.

855
02:04:40.760 --> 02:04:44.219
John Compton: There's no further discussion. Let's move to a vote on the resolution.

856
02:04:45.290 --> 02:04:52.100
John Compton: Objection to all in favor of the resolution. We see 5 opposed.

857
02:04:53.290 --> 02:05:00.379
John Compton: unopposed. We know why we wanted a motion. All right. Thank you. 5 to one.

858
02:05:01.450 --> 02:05:04.409
John Compton: Alright. That brings us…

859
02:05:05.410 --> 02:05:17.399
John Compton: 2, the playground renovation Rfp. And everybody's been anybody's standing by. Well, we have a resolution. But what are we doing as far as who's on the who's on the working group?

860
02:05:18.870 --> 02:05:21.070
John Compton: Are we gonna… when we… Good point!

861
02:05:21.800 --> 02:05:39.930
John Compton: We can. We can either. We can either identify people tonight or identify people next time. How many people would expect that? I would like to be honest. Yeah, I'd like to be on it. I think they'll do it tonight. So we can start working. Okay, well, we need 3 council members is all we were. Do you guys want to?

862
02:05:40.750 --> 02:05:54.279
John Compton: I would I? If if somebody else wants to take my seat, I don't mind, because then I'll put okay, because then I could critique Nick from the outside instead of from the inside. Okay.

863
02:05:54.480 --> 02:05:55.389
John Compton: What did you get?

864
02:05:55.570 --> 02:05:59.229
John Compton: Okay, so we've got, been out there.

865
02:06:05.470 --> 02:06:06.460
John Compton: and later.

866
02:06:06.590 --> 02:06:07.459
John Compton: All right.

867
02:06:08.730 --> 02:06:13.369
John Compton: That's right. It's a workbook.

868
02:06:13.540 --> 02:06:37.279
John Compton: all right. So next item is the Washington Grove playground renovation and modernization. Rfp, we had a discussion of that last the last meeting. We the Council requested that they do some consultation with the a professional

869
02:06:37.620 --> 02:06:44.630
John Compton: at who they had already identified at Montgomery Parks and

870
02:06:44.740 --> 02:06:59.470
John Compton: revise the Rfp. Appropriately. So Oscar is here. Tell us all about it. Well, I'm going to make a motion to approve the Rfp.

871
02:06:59.580 --> 02:07:22.659
John Compton: And yeah, I was gonna say that, too, if people have questions, sure. But I think we've heard so much, and we've all had an opportunity to talk to him and give our input that I'm not sure who needs to. I don't know, but he answered beautifully.

872
02:07:22.660 --> 02:07:26.029
John Compton: So it's a great, great market.

873
02:07:26.030 --> 02:07:28.830
John Compton: Yeah, thank you. Sorry, Bethel.

874
02:07:28.970 --> 02:07:30.209
John Compton: Until we vote.

875
02:07:31.140 --> 02:07:46.739
John Compton: Is there any discussion? Sorry, Oscar, does anybody want to hear from Oscar? Does anybody? Is there any discussion?

876
02:07:47.470 --> 02:08:00.480
John Compton: Great job. Great job. Great job. Really fabulous. Thank you. I do have one time. I'm allowed to make a comment about the RFP.

877
02:08:00.680 --> 02:08:09.129
John Compton: the… And I've said this before, but I feel compelled to say it again.

878
02:08:09.260 --> 02:08:16.439
John Compton: The this Rfp. Is looking basically for a general contractor.

879
02:08:17.160 --> 02:08:20.659
John Compton: for the playground renovation project.

880
02:08:21.790 --> 02:08:29.999
John Compton: and by engaging a general contractor you have that that has advantages and a cost.

881
02:08:30.630 --> 02:08:41.529
John Compton: all right, and whoever makes this proposal is, they get something out of it. If they're not paid in overhead, they're paid somehow.

882
02:08:41.690 --> 02:08:53.689
John Compton: And that needs to be recognized at the outset. We don't know what that entails. The responses, if it will be more clear in the responses.

883
02:08:53.870 --> 02:09:03.870
John Compton: But it's impossible that anybody responding to an Rfp. Of this sort won't include something for their effort.

884
02:09:04.050 --> 02:09:15.970
John Compton: And that is require that that reduces the resources available For the actual, renovation project.

885
02:09:16.800 --> 02:09:19.510
John Compton: And, and, and so.

886
02:09:19.720 --> 02:09:25.170
John Compton: I I know the playground committee recognizes this, or I'm…

887
02:09:28.990 --> 02:09:39.749
John Compton: had always I had felt, and maybe I've just it was. It's old thinking when we were going to do this playground project year by year.

888
02:09:40.110 --> 02:09:44.589
John Compton: $250,000 boom to use.

889
02:09:44.960 --> 02:09:50.309
John Compton: when we're gonna do it year by year, the idea of having a contract.

890
02:09:50.810 --> 02:09:51.700
John Compton: the question.

891
02:09:52.280 --> 02:10:01.820
John Compton: Because you can't get future councils to to contracts the for future funds.

892
02:10:01.830 --> 02:10:13.039
John Compton: but you can to current funds. So under those circumstances the idea was that the playground committee act as the general contractor.

893
02:10:13.300 --> 02:10:23.659
John Compton: meaning they would identify the the various parts, the fact that the site needs to be designed

894
02:10:24.040 --> 02:10:30.459
John Compton: obviously hire someone to do the site design and maybe execute the site design.

895
02:10:30.820 --> 02:10:36.360
John Compton: hire, identify what sort of equipment is going to go.

896
02:10:36.880 --> 02:10:46.900
John Compton: where and go and get proposals and go and get bids for those equipment, and then decide on those equipments sequentially.

897
02:10:48.440 --> 02:10:55.650
John Compton: serving as the the organizer of the whole of the whole project. This Rfa.

898
02:10:57.000 --> 02:11:04.719
John Compton: is… fairly careful in indicating that the town need that there needs to be decisions made.

899
02:11:06.010 --> 02:11:11.830
John Compton: in the execution of the proposal or of any contract awarded.

900
02:11:12.000 --> 02:11:17.670
John Compton: So there's no question the towns can get a lot. Get all the input we we need we need.

901
02:11:17.840 --> 02:11:26.159
John Compton: On the other hand, it is going to… it potentially limits

902
02:11:26.600 --> 02:11:30.529
John Compton: the options which may or may not be negative.

903
02:11:30.880 --> 02:11:45.060
John Compton: I'm kind of being a Pollyanna here and not Pollyanna. Yes, you are. What's the opposite of a Pollyanna? Naysayer. Not a naysayer, a cautionary, cautionary. There's a word for that I can't remember at the moment.

904
02:11:46.100 --> 02:11:48.529
John Compton: Okay, and that in any event.

905
02:11:48.630 --> 02:12:08.589
John Compton: issuing an Rfp. And reviewing responses does not spend any money. I mean, really. So the proof is in the proposals. Proof is in the proposals, guys, and that's what we'll all be looking for. It could be really exciting. Don't get me wrong.

906
02:12:09.100 --> 02:12:10.440
John Compton: End of statement.

907
02:12:11.930 --> 02:12:23.979
John Compton: Can we just hit the lead on that whole conversation? Can we vote? All right, all in favor of approving dissemination of this Rfp.

908
02:12:24.420 --> 02:12:27.199
John Compton: Okay, any opposed.

909
02:12:27.820 --> 02:12:32.880
John Compton: Everybody was any abstention on abstention. We have John Porter abstains.

910
02:12:33.180 --> 02:12:37.169
John Compton: He didn't say why abstain. Oh, I was wondering. Doesn't have to say why

911
02:12:37.920 --> 02:12:41.620
John Compton: No, it's like playing poker. You don't have to.

912
02:12:42.320 --> 02:12:56.359
John Compton: Okay, so how to move forward. This is the 1st contract gonna do with Anna as our town administrator. This is just one more thing she gets to dive into.

913
02:12:56.470 --> 02:13:05.160
John Compton: So what we need from the the with this with the draft is to fill in

914
02:13:05.270 --> 02:13:08.560
John Compton: Whatever you think you can fill in.

915
02:13:08.680 --> 02:13:20.490
John Compton: And I can. I will certainly contribute anything that I think needs to be added, or might might be, and we can talk about it and and make sure that it doesn't change anything.

916
02:13:20.490 --> 02:13:39.229
John Compton: We're not gonna make any material changes. This is just detail. And then we have to attach this to the rest of our Rfp. You you probably have. You've seen it in the draft in the other Rfps you've seen that we include. So we'll try and put this whole thing together. And meanwhile.

917
02:13:40.050 --> 02:13:44.850
John Compton: We'll leave it to you guys to identify Who this should go to.

918
02:13:45.800 --> 02:13:49.090
John Compton: So we need addresses, emails.

919
02:13:49.220 --> 02:13:50.360
John Compton: What have you.

920
02:13:51.620 --> 02:13:55.160
John Compton: to send out the finished Rsv.

921
02:13:56.250 --> 02:14:00.490
John Compton: And then, when the meeting's over, Oscar.

922
02:14:00.490 --> 02:14:00.970
Washington Grove Playground Committee: Mmh.

923
02:14:00.970 --> 02:14:04.689
John Compton: Everybody's gonna stay and listen to your presentation. Okay.

924
02:14:04.690 --> 02:14:08.359
Washington Grove Playground Committee: Well, I had no presentation. I was going to just talk briefly, very briefly. So no.

925
02:14:08.360 --> 02:14:11.940
John Compton: It turned out. All right.

926
02:14:11.940 --> 02:14:20.630
Washington Grove Playground Committee: I think we just need to make sure that we talk through the timeline, all the dates and the Q&A dates and the window. We need to make sure that we have those, that that's solidified too.

927
02:14:21.790 --> 02:14:27.470
John Compton: Yeah, don't worry. Well, we'll we'll put it something reasonable. But hopefully, yeah, you guys are good with

928
02:14:28.270 --> 02:14:37.199
John Compton: I have, unless the council wants to get involved, I recommend they not. Oh, all right. Thank you. I'll see you first.

929
02:14:37.200 --> 02:14:37.540
Washington Grove Playground Committee: Thanks.

930
02:14:37.540 --> 02:14:48.209
John Compton: Great job, man. Great job. There are advantages to be late in the meeting. Sometimes, you know, everybody has no no energy to

931
02:14:48.300 --> 02:15:02.979
John Compton: No, we just think it was. Yeah, there you go. See? All right. Thanks. All right. Next item is ordinance 2026, dash 0 6, the

932
02:15:03.230 --> 02:15:07.320
John Compton: 203, second avenue sale of town land. We had the public hearing.

933
02:15:07.670 --> 02:15:11.380
John Compton: But prior to this meeting you heard no comments.

934
02:15:11.610 --> 02:15:18.279
John Compton: This it's been introduced. So if there's any discussion before we move to a vote.

935
02:15:19.080 --> 02:15:23.629
John Compton: Any discussion all right. Move to a vote all in favor of the ordinance.

936
02:15:24.830 --> 02:15:33.250
John Compton: All right. That's unanimous. The ordinance passes. Yeah. Great. All right. We have a few new some new business.

937
02:15:33.390 --> 02:15:34.110
John Compton: Yep.

938
02:15:34.430 --> 02:15:40.429
John Compton: The the 1st item is something we have now done for this to be the 4th year.

939
02:15:40.540 --> 02:15:58.189
John Compton: And these are two resolutions authorizing deer management bow hunting sessions. The, the resolutions are identical to past, years, with the exception of changing dates.

940
02:15:58.430 --> 02:16:03.000
John Compton: No new terms, no old, no stricken terms, no nothing.

941
02:16:03.120 --> 02:16:15.309
John Compton: So this authorizes a deer, a bow hunting session running from September 16.th I forget the dates from September through January. Yeah, through January.

942
02:16:15.570 --> 02:16:27.489
John Compton: Okay, in the east and west woods, and the other second ordinance is in the conservation meadow, the the county wall.

943
02:16:28.220 --> 02:16:29.040
John Compton: per se.

944
02:16:29.340 --> 02:16:32.529
John Compton: Any discussion? I have a question. How do they.

945
02:16:33.230 --> 02:16:41.329
John Compton: How do they? Aren't they? Don't they have to be in a stand? So in a conservation meadow there aren't any really.

946
02:16:41.430 --> 02:16:53.079
John Compton: Okay, just curious. So so I have another question. Would it be possible at some point to get some very short report

947
02:16:53.080 --> 02:17:17.850
John Compton: on the impact of the deer management on I know in the past Patty has given a report like that like now there's sure deer and then the native species are coming back but I wonder if it would be possible and I don't want to ask somebody to spend a whole lot of time on that but just even like a few statistics or bullet points because that's why we're doing this so it's would be nice they did like

948
02:17:17.850 --> 02:17:23.079
John Compton: Word on a deer. As you said, like 3 deers or 2 deers, sometimes the whole season. Yeah.

949
02:17:23.200 --> 02:17:35.800
John Compton: I think there were 2 bucks and 4 does 1 1 buck and 5 does, I think.

950
02:17:36.280 --> 02:17:38.059
John Compton: That's how you.

951
02:17:38.860 --> 02:17:40.089
John Compton: Well, last night I.

952
02:17:40.090 --> 02:17:40.980
Patrice Klein: Two bucks question.

953
02:17:40.980 --> 02:17:50.110
John Compton: Not tonight. Patty's here, you know, if if you care to try and put together something that would

954
02:17:50.150 --> 02:18:02.180
John Compton: address the idea of how effective this I don't want to ask. By all means, by all means, ask the county.

955
02:18:02.260 --> 02:18:09.300
John Compton: how effective their part and they they'll they'll probably have data from all over the county. But that's okay.

956
02:18:09.680 --> 02:18:10.860
John Compton: Okay, yeah.

957
02:18:10.860 --> 02:18:16.130
Patrice Klein: Remember, they're also looking at deer vehicle collision issues, reduction of deer.

958
02:18:16.139 --> 02:18:16.849
John Compton: Good to meet you.

959
02:18:16.850 --> 02:18:35.879
Patrice Klein: Broadly, so they have other metrics, but sure, I'll be happy to, you know, put some summary information together on some sort of generic metrics that we're looking at, which includes the improvement in the ecosystem within the Eastwoods, you know, the decrease in the browse line, and the increase in native plants.

960
02:18:35.889 --> 02:18:38.079
John Compton: Yeah, I think we do.

961
02:18:38.080 --> 02:18:41.819
Patrice Klein: Okay, I'll be happy to… do you have a timeline for that, or is that okay.

962
02:18:41.820 --> 02:18:49.760
John Compton: You know, a month or 2, or yeah, whenever I can tell you from my own personal experience.

963
02:18:50.219 --> 02:18:53.440
John Compton: I've had 2 collisions with the air.

964
02:18:53.580 --> 02:18:58.590
John Compton: here in Marshmallow Grove. I haven't had any in the last 15 years.

965
02:18:59.120 --> 02:19:11.030
John Compton: It's either because there are fewer deer, or because I drive more safely. Take a guess. Take a guess which one is probably the the actual reason.

966
02:19:11.180 --> 02:19:11.629
Patrice Klein: Okay.

967
02:19:11.639 --> 02:19:12.579
John Compton: Oh.

968
02:19:12.719 --> 02:19:16.759
John Compton: Yeah, alright. Okay, thanks.

969
02:19:17.270 --> 02:19:17.879
Patrice Klein: Mmhm.

970
02:19:18.330 --> 02:19:20.960
John Compton: All right, next item. Did we vote on it?

971
02:19:21.139 --> 02:19:29.820
John Compton: Oh, we did. Yeah, we did. Did we vote? Maybe we didn't vote all in favor of

972
02:19:30.340 --> 02:19:51.789
John Compton: Okay. Yeah, yeah. All right. That was unanimous vote. You're right. It was the press. We're going very quickly here. Thank you. Yeah. All right. Next new business is the introduction of ordinance of 2026. Dash 10, authorizing an easement to Montgomery County to extend the Washington Grove connector to the end of Brown Street.

973
02:19:51.930 --> 02:19:53.279
John Compton: Hmm,

974
02:19:53.620 --> 02:20:10.160
John Compton: that consists of the ordinance which was drafted by their town attorney. It's in the in the in the materials. That ordinance is necessary to authorize signing and and and easement.

975
02:20:10.310 --> 02:20:12.940
John Compton: granting an easement to the county.

976
02:20:13.350 --> 02:20:15.949
John Compton: It includes 2 exhibits.

977
02:20:17.370 --> 02:20:37.619
John Compton: One of the exhibits is the easement map, the map of what the easement is. There is actually an easement, the permanent easement, and there's a temporary easement for the construction since they have to trample all over.

978
02:20:37.620 --> 02:20:39.860
John Compton: town property in order to build this thing.

979
02:20:40.170 --> 02:20:46.409
John Compton: And the second thing is a draft of the easement itself.

980
02:20:47.010 --> 02:20:57.599
John Compton: That draft has not been agreed to by the county and the town wherein the county is currently the county attorney.

981
02:20:57.810 --> 02:21:00.320
John Compton: is currently re reviewing.

982
02:21:00.890 --> 02:21:09.310
John Compton: our proposals to add a couple of terms. We expect them to get back to us, and we are negotiating whether those terms will

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John Compton: can can be included, or whether there's an alternate mechanism to come to an agreement about the issues. All of which we want. We'll want to conclude by next month the next council meeting when hopefully, we'll be able to vote.

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John Compton: on approving the the easement. Meanwhile we have to have a public hearing.

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John Compton: Suggestion is to have the public hearing before the next council meeting on August 10.th That's the background. So

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John Compton: like the the the.

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John Compton: I need the resolution introduced at the ordinance introduced, and then we can have discussion or just move on.

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John Compton: I move to approve this with the amendments that Sue Ellen added. Okay.

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John Compton: I'll second.

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John Compton: Okay, that's okay.

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John Compton: Alright. So so this ordinance is now

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John Compton: on the floor. It has to have a public hearing before we have action.

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John Compton: Everybody okay with having it at 7 30.

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John Compton: August 10.th That would be at the start of the meeting, just like we did tonight.

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John Compton: But I'm sorry. This is my ignorance. What is our responsibility in a public meeting? We just show up and listen.

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John Compton: Yes, okay, the council needs to. But we won't be talking. No, okay, yeah. So it's just like the.

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John Compton: citizens 3 min. But it's a big thing. But it's just directed at a specific.

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John Compton: Proposal right?

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John Compton: And, and there can be written, written…

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John Compton: comments on as well, of course.

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John Compton: Okay, great. So,

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Donna Shriner: John, this is.

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John Compton: Right?

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Donna Shriner: This is Donna, and I know I'm not supposed to speak, but the 3 documents that have been uploaded to the website regarding this, their names apparently are too long, and they're not opening.

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Donna Shriner: So I am unable to to the Dropbox. I'm unable to open any of them to review.

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John Compton: That's okay. I don't know why that is. Anybody have any problem. No. Okay, please just email me, and I'll make sure you get it. I'll send them to you directly.

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John Compton: so you won't have to go through dropbox.

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John Compton: Okay.

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Donna Shriner: Will do. Thank you.

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John Compton: Yeah, sure.

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John Compton: Okay, that brings us to town council reports which were in the packets. Of note.

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John Compton: The, from the at the planning commission from from Peter. Was they have discussed the

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John Compton: Let me back up.

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John Compton: The property owner, Joe Bloom, at 406 Fifth Avenue, has approached the town to resolve

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John Compton: known issues with her property. And

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John Compton: use encroaching on town land, and

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John Compton: the the Planning Commission is considering ways to resolve those issues, and we'll be making a recommendation to the Council.

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John Compton: That's in the Council report from the woods coming. Just one small item. They they are considering the use of a kiosk design.

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John Compton: Appropriate to the trails as well. John, just back up a little bit.

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John Compton: So she, she sent 11, right?

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John Compton: to the… Mayor and Council. Yes.

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John Compton: So you're and I sent it on to the planning commission chairman.

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John Compton: Okay, so you either wanted this, okay.

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John Compton: No, so we… okay.

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John Compton: So you said, we'll make a recommendation at the next meeting. Whenever you get around to making a recommendation. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

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John Compton: Oh, we could just decide it right now. No.

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John Compton: Okay, I thought that the Planning Commission hadn't ready yet. No. Okay, moving on.

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John Compton: because Nick's gonna swap me if I if I play things any longer.

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John Compton: Okay,

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John Compton: back to the woods, the woods committee report. Considering the use of a of an appropriate kiosk design for the trails and woods. And the

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John Compton: installation of the culverts previously approved by the Council to replace bridges and improve trail crossings is expected to happen sometime this summer.

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John Compton: I'm pointing at Steve when when he

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John Compton: He and Rj. Can accomplish that. Okay. And from the Historic Preservation Commission and the and Mccathern Hall.

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John Compton: I put those together because it was mentioned in both of them. The Town Archive Project, which we heard a presentation from Historic Preservation Commission Chair, Bob Gore. The effort to get that restarted resulted in a meeting here.

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John Compton: And what was discussed was the responsibilities for the practical cataloging and the process workflow and coordinating the archive work with our

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John Compton: town records, management obligations, and the use of past perfect. So we had that was reported in several council reports.

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John Compton: and we'll get a status on that probably next month, because because decisions were made and need to be activated and

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John Compton: the project will be restarted in a hopefully a conservative manner. We have funds in the

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John Compton: in the budget to to do this.

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John Compton: and that's all I had. Anybody else have anything they want to say from their council reports. This is the time not from the Council reports, but I just want to remind everybody about our parliamentary training on November 14, th from 9 to one. I sent an email to everybody, but just make sure you put it on your calendar. I don't think I'm going to be able to make that. Yeah, I'm sorry there was no time when everybody could make it. Yeah.

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John Compton: I gave like 12. You're doing. That was amazing.

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John Compton: It's good.

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John Compton: Okay, so the next meeting is, and it will be also public hearing on Monday, August 10.th

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John Compton: I don't know why it says 7 Pm. I'll make it 7 30.

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John Compton: I don't think, though.

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John Compton: You know what to say about the easement that there might be.

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John Compton: Do we come here, or do we join by zoom for that meeting?

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John Compton: the public hearing. It's sort of just like, yeah, it's just like you come here. It's just like this. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, we had one today. Yeah, there was nobody.

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John Compton: I didn't say no. Yeah, that's good.

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John Compton: Okay, in that case, unless there's any objections, we are adjourned 15 min. Wow! Good! No, we started at 6 o'clock. Oh, August 10th call. Okay, that has

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John Compton: Yes, usually the public hearings are held in that very beginning.

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John Compton: What they did was they sent it to the cloud, and everything sent to the cloud. I think somehow they got barred.

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John Compton: Hey, I have a question about these lights. Well, we could do that. Virginia asked.